Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

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Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Sharky71 » October 31st, 2010, 12:21 pm

Sorry if its been done cant get search working. I'm thinking of getting a Disco diesel can anyone help me with known probs or things to be weary of on these as I know nothing about LR's. How many km's can I expect to get out of the engine etc. There seems to be a hell of a lot for sale with around 220 to 280ish on the clock is that for a reason? What sort of $$ are they really worth for between 97mdl to 02mdl Any help/advice appreciated as I'm flying blind with these, I know zip about them.
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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by lance41 » October 31st, 2010, 1:39 pm

my old man has a td5 with 300 on the clock and it still runs beautiful. The only problem with the engine was at 220 where a glow plug went thats it

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Sharky71 » October 31st, 2010, 7:41 pm

No worries Thanks Lance, just trying to get some insight on them. Cheers Mate

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Disco_S.two » November 1st, 2010, 4:36 pm

The tdi is a much simpler motor with mechanical fuel injection. They are very reliable, but some might say, a little under-powered. However, a diesel specialist can tune the pump/injectors and get quite good power with excellent fuel economy.

The Td5 is run by an ECU and as such develops a lot more power (still with excellent fuel economy). If you get one with the NNN-prefixed ECU, they are re-mappable and can develop substantially more power. A lot of people find the electronics a concern, but mine has been solid as a rock.

The other differences between a D1(tdi) and D2(Td5) could fill a book. They are both good.... just different.

Don't believe the myths about LR unreliability or high cost of parts.

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Sharky71 » November 1st, 2010, 8:19 pm

Thanks for the info Waz.The tdi are mechanical pump, so is the td5 commonrail?. What sort of k's out of a tank on these and how big are the tanks on them.
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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Psimpson7 » November 1st, 2010, 8:26 pm

Hi Steve,

The TD5 engine has Electronic unit injectors where each injector has its own camshaft driven fuel pump

I think the D2 (TD5) tank is 90litres.

You are likely to get between 10-12 l/100 out of a TD5

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Disco_S.two » November 2nd, 2010, 8:46 am

^^^ What he said.

They are high pressure like a commonrail, but not commonrail.

Waz

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Sharky71 » November 3rd, 2010, 4:34 pm

Thanks for the info guys. I'm looking at a 99 td5 175k on the clock for around $13000 does that sound ok? Being a diesel I should get 4-500000k,s out the engine should'nt I?.
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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Disco_S.two » November 3rd, 2010, 10:30 pm

That sounds pretty good. Make sure it has a good service history.

There are a couple of little things to look for. (more price negotiation points than big issues)
- Oil in the injector harness. About $200 to fix with the upgraded harness.
- Take it up a gutter and make sure the HDC, TC and ABS don't come on. These are the "3 amigos". Will need diagnosis could be $90 sensor or anything up to a $1400 ABS modulator.
- Diesel leak from the Fuel Pressure Regulator (towards the back of the engine) - around $400.
- Check the transfer case has the CDL internals. Cheap to hook up the CDL if it has the internals; expensive if it needs the internal mechanism as well.
- make sure the previous owner has locktited the oil pump bolt. If not, I would attend to this as soon as possible.

I have a 2002 Td5 auto and it is by far the best car I've owned.

I would recommend checking out www.aulro.com. There is not much that the people there don't know.

All the best,
Waz

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Disco_S.two » November 3rd, 2010, 10:33 pm

Also,

For best service, DON'T GO TO THE LOCAL DEALER. Find a reputable independent LR specialist.

I would talk to the pros about mileage. They would see a lot more.

Waz

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Sharky71 » November 4th, 2010, 3:56 pm

Thanks for the heads up on those things Waz. I am looking at it tomorrow bloody 3 hour drive to see it but hopefully its good.I will let ya know how I go with it. The CDL does'nt it have one?How do I know if it has the internals any easy way of telling as I'm no mechanic.Does it work like a patrol transfer case or are they more an AWD than 4WD. Sorry Silly question I know just trying to figure it out.
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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Disco_S.two » November 8th, 2010, 9:52 pm

Sorry about the late reply.

Land Rover in their wisdom removed the CDL for SOME D2s as they thought the traction control was an equal substitute. In late 2002, they realised the error of their ways and reinstated it. To check if it has the internals; on the top/front of the transfer case, there is 10mm spigot used to engage/disengage the CDL. If it has this, it has the internals and is a relatively small job to hook up.

Also, the transfer case has a serial number, if it starts with either 41D or 42D you will have the internals and just require the linkage. If it starts with 61D, 62D, 69D or 70D; then you will need the internal diff lock parts to go in the transfer case.

They are full-time 4wd. There are no free-wheeling hubs, just hi-lo.

These aren't silly questions. This is my first LR too, so I've gone through the same process. But after my LR experience, I don't hold the same respect for toyota and nissan that I once had.

Waz

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Sharky71 » November 9th, 2010, 9:42 pm

Thanks Waz I'll have a look when I get it home which is Thursday hopefully

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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by HalfMungral » December 8th, 2011, 9:34 pm

How did you go mate did you get a D2 or what ??? would like to know the out come.
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Re: Disco tdi & td5 (Help)

Unread post by Sharky71 » June 9th, 2012, 12:36 pm

Gday mate sorry have'nt been on here long time. I got one but :( got rid of it and got another 80. Got sick of the price of lpg so got rid of the 80 and am now waiting to pick up a 2001 TD5, hopefully next weekend.

Steve

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