Newbie wants advice

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Newbie wants advice

Unread post by sars75 » October 24th, 2011, 8:00 pm

Hello everyone i have no 4wd experience and need some advice.My wife loves surf fishing and needs a 4wd to get to the good fishing spots near our coast.We have seen a Land Drover Discovery turbo diesel TDi 1995 model direct injection 2.5 litre 4cyl motor with 5 speed manual upgraded R380 gearbox for sale and it looks good.Can anyone help with what we should be looking for as we are new to this.Any advice would be fantastic .cheers Mark

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by lux45 » October 24th, 2011, 9:56 pm

landys aren't the most reliable trucks generally...always needs fixing, but if you have the money to get it serviced then there pretty solid.

reliability go looking for a landcruiser, patrol or hilux. just depends on your budget.
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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by sars75 » October 24th, 2011, 10:10 pm

Thanks for your reply budget is the dirty word around here (not very large) but we dont want to buy something cheap if running costs & reliability are excessive.Im asking around on this and other sites for advice so i guess we will way it all up soon.thanks Mark

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by Peter Aawen » October 24th, 2011, 10:40 pm

C'mon, there are lots of Disco's & Landy's out there that easily qualify as 'cheapest car on the block to run & maintain'!! But just like any other vehicle, some of them might have hassles that cost a bit - these days these things aren't really any worse than anything else, the days of brummy electrics & axles that are like cheese-sticks are well & truly gone!! And they are certainly cheaper than some of the other offerings out there, companies that expect people to continue to pay thru the nose for a reputation that has been well & truly sullied in the last couple of decades!!

If you find a well looked after Disco & there is someone to service it nearby who is a Rover fan OR you learn how to do the servicing yourself you'll probly find that Disco will serve you well for years. There is nothing exceptional to look for that can go wrong, just the same old stuff as with any 2nd hand car - make sure everything that should work does & that there aren't any obvious leaks or oil huffing out of the oil filler etc. As with any diesel, it's a good idea to get a compression check & bleed down test, that's the only real way to get any reasonable idea of how well the diesel engine is likely to be, and it certainly pays to get a pre-purchase mechanical inspection & Encumbered Vehicle check & make sure you have done all the due diligence stuff. Apart from that, maybe find a Disco fanatic nearby by talking to your local 4WD Clubs or checking out the local service blokes & see if there's a Disco or Rover bloke somewhere nearby who is prepared to check it out for you - maybe even someone from the Forum who might be nearby who can give it the once over for you - that's one reason it's always a good idea to put at least your Region & State in the Location field of your User Profile (you can edit it to add it!) - if people see the area you are in they may offer to help.

But don't be scared of Disco's or Landy's, they are much more capable than most will admit even straight out of the box, and given a reasonable maintenance schedule they'll generally keep on doing the right thing for you for years, not only getting you there reliably but also getting you back! Their reputation for being expensive to maintain is largely un-deserved, and generally comes from people who haven't actually owned one or even driven one extensively. Not only were they one of the 4WD vehicles that opened up Australia, especially Central Aust & the Snowy Mountains, but they are still used extensively in both areas by some pretty big organisations where getting there & back reliably is still pretty important. ;)
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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by DiscoMark » October 25th, 2011, 6:51 pm

Mate

I have 98 300tdi and I have no problems with it on the beach other then needing a little more foot as the engine is quite small for such a large car. If you don't want it for touring (which I do) have a look at the V8 Discos. They make an awsome beach car plenty of get up and go. Cheaper then diesels to buy as well. If you're looking at getting a landy join with aulro.com (australian land rover owners) they have more info there then you can poke a stick at.

good luck with your search.

Mark

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by Hocks » October 27th, 2011, 12:33 am

I also have a Disco and its great, I haven't managed to get it stuck yet, not from lack of trying either, its great on fuel, close to 1000kms to a tank, I only have a 90L tank. I have out driven most over 4wd's. Its not too big, doesn't have any major problems.

Mines a 1994 200TDi, slightly modified and lots more to come.

That said watch me get stuck this weekend, me and my big mouth.

In all honesty Sars75, I was looking for a GQ but came across my disco and never looked back. Its not too big but big enough for a small family.

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by DiscoMark » October 28th, 2011, 8:18 pm

Mate i got mine stock, only added a 2 inch lift and some decent rubber and I can match it with a twin locked 100 series on 35inch procomps. the only time i get let down is when the step is simply too big and clearance is an issue.

i love it showing the big toys up

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by Hocks » October 31st, 2011, 3:16 pm

Well said DiscoMark, I have MT Baja's 4 rib on order, due to arrive anytime this week. Would love to get some lockers but that said, I aint got it stuck yet but nice to have them just in case.

Was talking to a Toyota owner, over the weekend, owns a 200 and he does take it off road. Nice fellow and a neighbour but he kept complaining how landrovers have the leaking oil and electric problem. Mine has a slight transfer oil leak but which old 4wd's dont have an issue. Other than that its great. Funny thing is in his next breath he was talking about buying the new Disco.

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by Disco_Balls » December 28th, 2011, 6:13 pm

Like with any make/model of car, you are going to have your die hard followers that will try and sway your opinion.
My Disco is the first 4WD I've ever owned, first diesel, too! And I'll be honest when I say I'll never own anything but.
It's more than capable to tackle anything you throw at it, it's über economical (best hwy unladen 8.4/100, mid 9s urban)
The Disco isn't a comp truck out of the box, though it'll certainly level most mountains and attack all the tracks that the cruiser/patrol owners can with ease, they are comfortable, roomy and surprisingly quiet in the cabin.
The diesels aren't the fastest trucks in the world, but they aren't intended to be, the V8 models sound awesome and have more than enough grunt but the trade off is a hefty fuel bill, a bloke at work has a Series2 Disco V8, he's flat out getting 450kms around town to a tank, on a good run!!
Every model/brand of truck will have its issues, some more than others and Vica versa, regardless of what repairs, if any, that need to be done, it's goin to cost you!

Discos are the perfect size for just about any family, on and off road, have more than enough room to pack up for a trip away and are rated at over 3tonne towing capacity!!

Check it out, take it for a drive, push,pull,poke,prod, open,close,turn and twist everything, if at the end of all that, you don't feel the truck is right for you, walk away.
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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by Laidley 62 Series » December 28th, 2011, 7:06 pm

Sars 75,

Firstly Welcome to the forum, you have come to the right place to get advice.

You have already recieved a wide range of answers, some even unbiased like from Peter, I am not unbiased, I love 60 series.

The only thing I have read about the Disco was , if it is not leaking oil then all you have to do is wait.

Having said that I like the disco, only thing stopping me having one is they have no luggage space, I am not sure how you would take a family across the Simpson or to the cape in one without a trailer.

I would certainly own one for a town car, they look great.

My advice is similar to Peter, buy the thing, get to know how to fix it and then go and join your local 4b club and use it.

Last peice of advice, add your location on your profile so that people reading your posts know whether they can help or not, when you ask for a garage or mechanic near you, then you are the only person who knows where you are.lol


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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by HalfMungral » January 1st, 2012, 10:40 pm

LMFAO to the advise about getting a lux or cruiser,
Hi there Mark
My son has a 97 disco and I have a 2000 model both TD5 if you are wanting to get a D1 have a look on car sales.com and see what is available for what ever the amount of dollars you have to spend, dont listen to the toyota heros that think there trucks are the only things that can 4x4, our rovers are very reliable and cheap to run, our TD5 diesel's get around 10.5 lts to the 100ks. Do some reserch on the forums about the modle you are looking at, also get some one that knows what there looking at as all vehicles modles can have probs with them mate.
anyway hope all goes well for you
stay safe
mark

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by simon302 » November 13th, 2012, 1:48 pm

Hey mate

I have a 98 discovery 300 tdi with the R380 box in it and yes i have had to replace a few things but all of them were due to what i was driving through/over. this is my second 1 and for what you want to do with it it wont have any problems.

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by Sparkys » November 13th, 2012, 2:04 pm

Hi sars, my father in law has a Disco with the same motor as yours. He bought it with 125,000 km on the clock and it now has 380,000 km on the clock and it hasn't missed a beat. All he's done is regular oil and filter changes.

We have Landcruisers, Patrols, Rodeos, Tritons, Navara's etc at work so I drive all different makes of cars all the time, and I honestly believe that the Landrover Discovery is every bit as reliable as the other make 4WD's, with the deciding reliability factor being the regular servicing.

I have owned an old Range Rover and that certainly cost a lot to maintain, but I personally believe that the Landrover's poor reliability reputation stems from much older Landrover problems that well and truly predate the newer vehicles.

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by Disco98 » April 22nd, 2013, 8:34 pm

Hi SARS,

Don't listen to the nay Sayers mate, Disco's offer some of the best bang for your buck value off road fun out there. In standard form they are very capable, there are plenty of mods up for grabs and there are heaps of specialist Landry parts places in oz to get good value parts.

A lot of the common problems are caused by easily fixed issues. For example the lift pumps on the TDi disco's is notorious for giving up the ghost and leaking. This is caused by the line from the fuel filter to the pump being to short and inflexibly so it places pressure on the fitting and cracks it, mine leaked so I had the fitting soldered up, replaced the hose with a longer flexible rubber line and 8yrs on it is still there. Many people treat the symptom and not the cause when the cause is usually a really simple and cheap fix.

I love my disco and with regular servicing and maintenance, like any car, they are reliable. Go for it mate, you'll love it.

Matt

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Re: Newbie wants advice

Unread post by oversite » April 22nd, 2013, 10:26 pm

Hi Disco98, just note that sars has 2 posts total and hasnt been active for 4 months so dont expect too much activity

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