HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

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HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

Unread post by sgalliani » November 21st, 2013, 10:37 am

Hi, guys:

I just lifted my Suzi like 2', but when I use the 4wd, this happens:

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WHAT can I do!?

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Unread post by Peter Aawen » November 21st, 2013, 4:07 pm

Maybe you'd better explain to those of us who can't see the pics clearly exactly what this 'this' this is??


Sorry, but I can't see the pics clearly enough to identify an issue :(
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Re: HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

Unread post by oversite » November 21st, 2013, 4:18 pm

sway bar hitting the diff?

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Re: HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

Unread post by sgalliani » November 29th, 2013, 12:36 pm

Well, actually is not the "stabilizer bar". I don't know the name exactlye, but I think it is "tie rod assemble". So, the thing is that when I put the 4x4, that bar hit the diff or the diff hit that bar.

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Unread post by sgalliani » November 29th, 2013, 12:38 pm

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Unread post by sgalliani » November 29th, 2013, 12:40 pm

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Unread post by sgalliani » November 29th, 2013, 12:42 pm

Hi, I just upload new pics. The problem is when I changed my shocks and coils, I lifted the Zook, so when I used the 4x4, the diff hits on that bar. So I don't know what can I do to solve this!!

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Unread post by Peter Aawen » November 29th, 2013, 6:36 pm

Ahh, the lift means that now the diff pinion seal/bearing end/uni joint hits on the drag link for the steering!! I can only think of 2 ways to fix it:

1). lower the front an inch or two using shorter coils so that it doesn't let the diff pinion/drag link hit together anymore; or

2). get a custom drag link made up that has a bend in it so that it will clear the diff pinion thru the full range of the steering travel.

But thinking about it a bit more, the relationship between the drag link, which connects both steering knuckles together, and the diff housing shouldn't have changed significantly just because you put longer shocks and coils in there. The leading arms should be holding the diff housing & therefore the pinion bearing in the same relative position, only at a greater angle to the chassis, and the steering knuckles are meant to be mounted solidly on the diff/axle housing too. Something else has gotta be wrong for that relationship to have changed, it shouldn't even vary as the pinion angle is increased by the lift - you are hitting closer to the diff than the driveshaft!! So maybe you need to check the bushes in the leading arms, where they bolt to the diff, and make sure that they aren't shot; and check the steering knuckles and king pin/trunnion bearings too, cos if either those leading arm bushes or the king pin bearings are worn/moving significantly the relationship between the drag link and the diff pinion will have changed so that the drag link can actually hit!!

One of the hassles of lifting vehicles, you've gotta make sure that the steering doesn't foul, and atm, your vehicle is a serious safety risk if you ever drive it on the road!! It could cause an accident, and that could mean you get held culpable for any injuries you cause - better not drive it until you get it sorted! :(
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Re: HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

Unread post by sgalliani » November 30th, 2013, 3:21 am

Thanks!

Well, actually I changed the arm bushes, this is the exactly replacement

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Full-Suspensi ... 4d04e774f6

But I'm going to recheck the knuckles. I'm going to put this new rebuild kit:

http://www.trail-gear.com/samurai-front-axle-service

Do you tried those kits before?

And what do you think about this?
http://www.ironman4x4.com/pdfs/Jimny%20 ... %20Arm.pdf

It will help?

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Unread post by Peter Aawen » November 30th, 2013, 5:48 am

The Ironman Caster kit is (technically) meant to fix any steering geometry issues that your lift has introduced, but it may well help you with this particular problem as well - could be worth a shot, and will probably make the steering better too! ;)
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Re: HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

Unread post by sgalliani » November 30th, 2013, 9:38 am

I can't found that kit here in Peru, it's driving me crazy!

Do you know where in Australia can I buy it?

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Re: HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

Unread post by oversite » November 30th, 2013, 8:50 pm

get a custom bent tie rod made up to avoid everything.

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Re: HARD trouble with the stabilizer bar - PHOTO

Unread post by sgalliani » December 1st, 2013, 6:53 am

Sound's great, but... Where?! Some online stores?

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