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Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placard

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Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placard

Hi Everyone,

I can find information about the exterior dimensions of the Troopy, hover am having a hard time finding the internal dimensions.

I have ordered a Troopy GXL, and was particularly interested in the rear cargo area dimensions etc. We are having some drawers installed by ARB, and trying to work out what can be fitted around, i.e. between the seat and the end of the drawers, and in the sides around the wheel arches etc.

Can anyone shed any light as to the dimensions?

Also, can anyone post a photo of the tyre placard from the Troopy? Trying to find out what we can legally put on the new Troopy in NSW.

Thanks in advance

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Unread postby TYMITS » July 26th, 2011, 4:26 pm


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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

Had a look at the 79 series ( ute ) a little while back, they are placarded for 265/70R16. The troopy and wagon for that matter i would assume would be the same. That said, i know the troopy comes with steel split rims of 7.5 R16C which equates to a 235/85R16 ( 32 inches ).

With the current NSW regulations on tyre increase with out the need for engineers cert, you can legally increase to a 265/75R16 ( 31.8 inches ) ( total increase over the placarded size of 13.25mm ) the legal increase with out need for engineer is 15mm higher and 25 mm wider of placard.

As far as i can tell, 32 inch tyres are right on the line for max tyre hight with out needing stupid paperwork. I have spoken to a RTA specified engineer close to me in NSW that quoted me around $250 for certification on a 2 inch lift and 285/75R16 tyres. Keep in mind though, going to a 285/75 or larger will also require a speedo modification thingy to keep your Speedo correct and ( the bigy that put me off ) the 285/75 will increase your fuel usage by around 10% ish.

Below is the link to the RTA signatories or Engineers that can certify you mods if you want.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... r_2010.pdf

Below is the rules and regs for what needs to be certified and what doesn't when sorting your truck.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... v_2007.pdf

One last thing. There is a change the govourment is trying to bring in that will affect all of the above. ( called the VSCCS ) As long as you get your truck and do your mods before the change you will be fine. However, if they bring in the changes before you mod your truck then this is how it will work.

The new laws state that you can lift your truck by 50mm ( 2 inches ) whether if be tyres, suspension or body lift. But the 50mm lift law is calculated from the combined increase of all 3. ( tyres+suspension+body lift = no more then 50mm combined. )

I hope this helps and doesn't confuse you!

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OOOHH almost forgot, wide tyres means you will need wheel arch flairs. They are around $1000 for all four with paint colour matched from ARB.( its just tag price, never haggled at the time of question) worth remembering, toyota want about double that for there toyota specific ones.

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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

Thanks

Was aware of the flare issues and am having these added to the Troopy.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/registration/ ... 9_rev4.pdf

These are the NSW tire and wheel mod rules, just couldn't find any info regarding the largest wheels applicable to the vehicle so I could work out the limits.

I also thought VSI 50 was going to allow 50mm of lift without certification, and any lift provided by tires was to not be counted as part of this limit. I could be wrong though.

Would really like to put 285/75/R16 on my Troopy though.

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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

Yeah total of 50mm with out certification. but as far as i remember, ( there is a large thread about this in the forby discussion some where ) it was a max of 50mm including tyres.

Would be amazing if it excluded tyres :P.

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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

you guys mite want to check ncop viewtopic.php?f=7&t=104701&p=1311474&hilit=ncop#p1311474
find out when its coming to nsw
look at getting a gvm upgrade i think this can help with your lift and tyre increase as well as keeping it legal when your all loaded up
also check out show us your 76 venom had some i was gonna say luck but i think it was more his hard work paying off getting lift +33 on his 76 legal in VIC.
gxl an gx come with 265/70,workmate and gxl troopy 7.5r16 look for a clause in there stating any model or variant of that series in regards to tyre size you may find you can use the 7.5r16 size for the gxl calcs as well, my gxl come with 265/70 but when my gvm was done the tyre placard now reads 7.5r16 or 235/85, and flava if you havnt ordered one yet just do it let it work itself out as you go along

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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

If NCOP has been adopted in NSW it would appear to be legal.....

http://www.infrastructure.gov.au/roads/ ... 1%20v3.pdf

4.2.4 Overall Nominal Diameter
The overall diameter of any tyre fitted to a passenger car or passenger car derivative must not be more than 15mm larger or 26mm smaller than that of any tyre designated by the vehicle manufacturer for that model.
The overall diameter of any tyre fitted to:
 4WD passenger vehicles specifically designed for off-road use (typically MC ADR category). All wheel drive (AWD) vehicles including those AWD vehicles that may be certified as MC ADR category, (also commonly known as soft roaders) are not included in this category;
 4WD goods vehicles and their 2WD equivalents if the chassis and running gear are essentially the same as the 4WD version (N ADR category); or
 any medium weight goods vehicle (NA2, NB ADR category).
Must not be more than 50mm larger or 26mm smaller than that of any tyre designated by the
vehicle manufacturer for that vehicle.
Note: Increases in tyre diameter are subject to compliance with all other requirements specified under this clause (Clause 4.2 Non-Standard Tyres and Rims) and may therefore be limited by other factors such as insufficient clearance.
Speedometer accuracy must be maintained for the selected tyre and rim combination to within the degree of accuracy specified in ADR 18 where applicable. It is suggested that the degree of accuracy is in accordance with the most recent version of ADR18.
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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

Given the standard tires are 32" I could legally go to 34"??
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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

technically you could go to 34 which only raises your vehicle 25mm leaving 25mm left to lift. my gvm only raised my car 40mm and once i get a bit of gear on it expect it to go down more, so going from 32 to 33 inch tyres only raises it 12.5mm plus my bit less than 40mm lift i think im under the 50mm lift. i have the brand new original height and think i could argue the point. you must find out if ncop is in nsw im in VIC and venom assures me he has confirmation from vicroads its already in VIC. putting 285s on a troopy and maybe a 25mm coil spacer (if there legal) in the front or just a stiffer coil and maybe some airbags or coil helper spring in the back might be the way to go. you only need to lift your car high enuf so the tyres dont scrub anywhere

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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

I have decided to email the RTA directly to seek a definitive answer as to what ruling applies currently in NSW whether it is VSI 09 or VSD 14.

I'll post back the reply.
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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

Cheers manly, im waiting with huge interest to see you answer.

We are expected to abide by these laws, yet they make it such a run around to find out what is legit and what isn't. You would think they would have clearer info...

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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

Here is my email, lets see what the response is......

I have been reviewing VSI 09 issued by the RTA and also VSB 14 issued by the Australian Government Department of Infrastructure and Transport, I am a little confused regarding the maximum tyre and rim sizes that would be legal on the above vehicle.

I would like to fit 285/75/R16 tires onto 16"x8" rims.

VSI 09 mentions a maximum increase in wheel diameter of 15mm, whereas VSB 14 mentions a maximum of 50mm increase in diameter as the vehicle is a 4WD. Could you please advise which is correct?

I also plan on fitting a GVM upgrade from ARB/Old Man Emu, which will give approximately 48mm of lift to the vehicle. Could you advise what certifications need to be undertaken if the vehicle lift exceeds 50mm but is not more than 150mm as per VSB 14. The total lift from tires and suspension upgrades will be approximately 65-75mm.
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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

Manly, that's the way to go...!

Wait until the RTA reply, they will probably say that an engineer certificate will be required because of the tyres.

When you install a GVM this is a second stage of manufacture. Meaning that the new std height of the car is the car with the GVM installed and you can increase the tyres as maximum as 50mm. Thechnically there is not lift, there is a GVM increase ;)

All this will makes the certification process cheaper and easier because the engineer will only have to put "arguments" to prove brakes, speedo and mudflaps are safe and there is no handling test involved (manufacturer of gvm did this handling test with DOT to get the GVM legal). This handling test is know as lane change test and at least in VIC is VERY EXPENSIVE

Each case and car is different, but in the end, is possible to get your car modified and legal if it is done properly.

Let us know how did you go. Im keen to see how things work in NSW.

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Unread postby Sir_Venom » July 30th, 2011, 11:52 am


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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

hey venom
do you have that in black and white that when you do a gvm thats your new standard height because that changes everything. this would mean its only the height increase in tyres that comes into it. did you have to get your speedo redone. if that first statement is correct why the need for an engineer at all. this would be a good reason for everyone to get a gvm increase and lets find a 34inch tyre

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Re: Current 70 Series Troop Carrier Dimensions & Tyre Placar

That is what the engineer told me but he did not write it in the certificate... he said that he will sign the certificate based on that.

Speedo, yes, I had to install the Marks adaptor, it is pretty easy.
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