200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

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200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by ANGRY HORNET » August 2nd, 2011, 8:09 pm

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I have recently fitted 285/70 17 COOPER STT's to my 200 series
Am very happy with the tyres as I have been running coopers for the last 6 or so years now
The only problem I have is that the fuel economy has turned to crap
I have lost approx 200-250 km per tank

Has anyone had or heard of this happening to others that have done similar...???

I have also fitted the Roo System chip and Exhaust system ..... Thinking that this would of counter acted the tyre upgrade but it seems not


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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by ggreenie » August 2nd, 2011, 10:05 pm

Maybe take it back to roo systems for a re-tune...

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by ballsbygm » August 3rd, 2011, 10:08 pm

Have you recalibrated for the bigger Boots? Your now going further than indicated.

Yes, the tyre size and any weight add-on's impact this oiler a lot!

I'm running 35's and average (corrected) 14l/100, I'll take that for the added ability any day :)

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by sahara09 » August 4th, 2011, 1:38 pm

since going to the 694's my fuel economy has changed but only slightly 12L/100k as opposed to 11L/100 on dunlops
not sure why as they are same size tyres :crazy:
but can live with it :) also have DPChip and Taipan XP 3" exhaust fitted and alloy bullbar 70L longranger fuel tank also .
so all in all still good fuel economy in reality :thumb:

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by boobook » August 4th, 2011, 7:37 pm

I have 265/70 17 Mickey Thompson All terrains ( OE size) and 285 / 70 17 BFG Km2 muds on seperate rims.

I get exactly the same. Probably 4 - 5 l/100km worse with the muds on. Then heaven when the AT's go back on.

Best bet is to have 2 sets of rims and tyres.

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by ANGRY HORNET » August 4th, 2011, 10:55 pm

sahara09 wrote:since going to the 694's my fuel economy has changed but only slightly 12L/100k as opposed to 11L/100 on dunlops
not sure why as they are same size tyres :crazy:
but can live with it :) also have DPChip and Taipan XP 3" exhaust fitted and alloy bullbar 70L longranger fuel tank also .
so all in all still good fuel economy in reality :thumb:

Has the DP Chip made your economy better ? ....... I only ask because a mates old man just had a ChipIT chip installed and he has lost economy since as well. He now disconnects the chip when around town and only uses it for towing the van. Are these chips really worth what we pay for them.....???

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by ANGRY HORNET » August 4th, 2011, 11:03 pm

By the way
Thanks for ya feed back guys
Much appreciated

Keep on cruise'n
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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by Red04VXE » August 4th, 2011, 11:28 pm

On our trip out west last month, the old mans 200 was averaging 18L/100. Thats towing the camper trailer and Roof Basket and Awning. Tyres are Std Size 694's
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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by sahara09 » August 11th, 2011, 8:37 am

ANGRY HORNET wrote:
sahara09 wrote:since going to the 694's my fuel economy has changed but only slightly 12L/100k as opposed to 11L/100 on dunlops
not sure why as they are same size tyres :crazy:
but can live with it :) also have DPChip and Taipan XP 3" exhaust fitted and alloy bullbar 70L longranger fuel tank also .
so all in all still good fuel economy in reality :thumb:

Has the DP Chip made your economy better ? ....... I only ask because a mates old man just had a ChipIT chip installed and he has lost economy since as well. He now disconnects the chip when around town and only uses it for towing the van. Are these chips really worth what we pay for them.....???

The chip and exhaust were fitted long B4 the 694,s
also there is generally 8 bodies in the cruza me the wife and 6 kids ages 15 down to 2 :) so really fuel economy is great also had the 100 series TDI sold it 4 weeks ago it averaged around 15L/100k with all of us in it i had an Honda MDX b4 the 200 with 7 in it best it would do was 19l/100 k average was 23l/100k so the 200 is way out in front with economy :thumb:

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by GrahamnBec » August 23rd, 2011, 8:05 pm

I just did a trip to Sydney and back from Coffs harbour 5 people in the car plus fridge and all the crap you need for kids, averaged 10.4l per 100 was happy with consumption for this trip!!

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by Tonkatoyota » September 2nd, 2011, 4:01 pm

Angry Hornet,

I too have 285/70/17 STTs. On a long run I used to get somewhere between 10 and 11L/100km on the dunlops. I now get upper 12s, so only a small difference when you recalibrate this for the extra diameter. I thought that was quite good considering they are muddies after all.

I haven't bothered with a chip so maybe that's where the problem lies? Can't see how these things claim to save fuel on the Aussie LC200 (it's already detuned compared to some of the overseas models with the same engine, presumarly because we travel longer distances and need the better fuel economy?).
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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by Dave1066 » October 6th, 2011, 8:11 pm

A well known problem about economy, but perhaps not know by all: the 200 series doesn't like using 6th gear unless >110km with no load. The fix is to get it re-mapped (Toyota will do this for free). With that comes a set of instructions to get it to use 6th..which seems a bit silly to me. I found it held gears better & used 6th more readily. On a long trip, big load plus extra spare on the roof and Micky Thompsons AT's, I averaged 13km/100. That not as good as some others on this formum have quoted, but I'm fairly pleased. Stop/start & short trips around town averaged about 15.5 . I'm yet to be convinced that re-chipping is worth them money, unless perhaps if you're towing lots. Other's comments?

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by boobook » October 7th, 2011, 6:20 am

Tonkatoyota wrote:Angry Hornet,

I too have 285/70/17 STTs. On a long run I used to get somewhere between 10 and 11L/100km on the dunlops. I now get upper 12s, so only a small difference when you recalibrate this for the extra diameter. I thought that was quite good considering they are muddies after all.

I haven't bothered with a chip so maybe that's where the problem lies? Can't see how these things claim to save fuel on the Aussie LC200 (it's already detuned compared to some of the overseas models with the same engine, presumarly because we travel longer distances and need the better fuel economy?).
Tonkatoyota
The reason it is detuned is because of our diesel. It is lower quality than in Europe. The engine is detuned even more in places like South Africa where the diesel is even worse. The economy is actually better in the higher tune!!!! ( 10.2l/100km and 215kw in europe verses 10.5l/100km and 195kw here)

You can blame the oil companies and the government on this one.

Dave1066,

perhaps the info above is the answer to your question. Higher KW and better economy. I am told this is because it holds 6th better with a chip.
Also the reason you have to select 6 manually to get it to go into 6th at 100kmph is because of emissions. It won't meet Euro 5 emissions if it is in 6th at 100kph. So they came up with this fix. If YOU select manual 6th then it is not a toyota problem that it doesn't meet the spec. That's why you will never see it this way in D, and you will never get this mod unless you specifically ask for it.

In auto mode it meets euro 5 emissions. In "manual" mode, not meeting emissions is 'beyond Toyota's control'.

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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by Red04VXE » October 8th, 2011, 3:38 pm

I can't get my old mans to select 6th at 100 manually?
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Re: 200 Series Landcruiser (Deisel)Fuel Economy

Unread post by boobook » October 9th, 2011, 6:36 pm

Red04VXE
has he had the 6th gear mod done? Also what size are the tyres?

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