Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

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Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by frewcha » July 21st, 2013, 9:26 pm

so im going to be changing my oil soon! car is a 2013 dmax 3lt TD i have got 10L of castrol 5w40 for her, now on the drum it says suitable for cars with a dpf. does the dmax have a dpf? and if not can i still use this oil? any other info will help out!

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Re: oil change time

Unread post by mydmax » July 21st, 2013, 9:54 pm

Your handbook will say if it has a DPF.
If you have a DPF it is OK, if you don't then the engine won't know.

It is only a low ash formulation and so leaves less residue when burnt.

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Re: oil change time

Unread post by oversite » July 22nd, 2013, 12:15 am

if you do the oil change yourself will you void your warranty

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by frewcha » July 22nd, 2013, 6:32 pm

how do they know if i changed the oil? isuzu wont change the oil until 20000 kms id rather change it now, they wont know ive changed it so no issue there, kept the original filter even so will put that out and they wont know th difference

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by oversite » July 22nd, 2013, 6:41 pm

what? they dont do the first oil change till 20,000?

yeah go ahead and change it!

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by frewcha » July 22nd, 2013, 6:43 pm

thats exactly what i though! its crazy they dont do it earlier so

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by mydmax » July 22nd, 2013, 8:19 pm

frewcha
The previous model Dmax has a 10,000km first oil change interval. Does the service book for yours show it as 20,000km?
The Oil filters are reasonably large and also have a 10,000km interval but I'm not sure about the oil at 20,000km.
It would be fairly black.

Have a real good look at the service schedule to make sure.

With good oil and filters the 10,000 is quite ok. With doubtful oil performance and poor quality filters I wouldn't be going to 10,000km for either.

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by SuckSqueezeBangBlow » July 22nd, 2013, 8:23 pm

At 10k ALL oils are to be changed according to the handbook
previous:-> 74 KE20 4AGTE, 04 RZN149R, 01 AE112R, 01 KR42R, 84 E30 318i, 67 MINI DELUXE
current:-> 06 BF XR6T, MY13 ISUZU D-MAX LS-M 4X4

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by mydmax » July 22nd, 2013, 10:03 pm

SSBB
That is the book some places don't read. I have found Dmax's with over 20,000km and only the engine oil ever done.

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by bravoboy300 » July 22nd, 2013, 10:26 pm

Why do they say all oils for? Is it likely to be contaminated from everything 'running in' I assume?

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by mydmax » July 22nd, 2013, 11:12 pm

bravoboy300
That is a good question, "Why do they say all oils for?"
Sorry for this but when service is mentioned the following happens and also covered previously.

The Isuzu designers and developers set the service intervals but most "Orstrayan" dealers of ALL BRANDS and models know they can make $$$$$ by not doing service items but still charging for it.
It is so common that Aussies seem to accept being ripped off and usually don't complain effectively and there is no official body policing the issue, so it continues.

Vehicles not serviced properly wear out or fail prematurely and so the dealer sells workshop time, parts and or new vehicles as a result.
Most people don't appear to be aware of the impact of poor, lack of, or no service at all.

If the oils have been contaminated by the running in, I agree they will be, it is in the interest of service bosses not to change them, so it maximizes their future prospects of sales. Most vehicles will make it through the warranty period until they fail, they just have a shortened life.
No one wants to save the planet, greed dictates all.
This isn't a cynical view, just what I know and have observed to be "reality". The general public does not know what goes on in the motoring industry.
Cheers
mydmax

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by SuckSqueezeBangBlow » July 23rd, 2013, 9:31 pm

^^^THIS
previous:-> 74 KE20 4AGTE, 04 RZN149R, 01 AE112R, 01 KR42R, 84 E30 318i, 67 MINI DELUXE
current:-> 06 BF XR6T, MY13 ISUZU D-MAX LS-M 4X4

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by dhc4ever » July 24th, 2013, 8:09 am

20000 km?
I'd be looking for another mechanic.
Does this engine have a bypass filter system, centrifugal separator or run synthetic oil?
If not 10,000 km would be the limit, depending on the type of running you are doing ie lots of short around town runs in heavy dust, you,d change it sooner, driving melb to brisbane up the newell every day you,d leave it the full 10,000 possibly 15,000km.
Modern oils are good, what promts the requirement to change them is contamination, fuel dilution and carbon load exceeding the oils ability to hold it in suspension.
The quality of the oil filter also has an impact, some are glorified rock stoppers ( cheapies) where as a quality filter will stop lumps down to around 20 micron, they also sometimes have a built in bypass filter that filters down to around 5 micron ( think toyotas $65 1 hz oil filter), so with filters you do get what you pay for.
Use a quality oil and filter and change both every 10,000km, you wont go far wrong.

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by evaredy » July 24th, 2013, 8:59 am

I've just had my 10,000 done and had to have the front and rear diff oil done as well.

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Re: Oil change time - does the DMax have a DPF?

Unread post by mimmo_gsr » July 26th, 2013, 1:59 pm

evaredy wrote:I've just had my 10,000 done and had to have the front and rear diff oil done as well.
That is correct. The 10k service requires only the Gearbox/Rear Diff/Front Diff/Transfer oils to be replaced. The first engine oil change according to the handbook takes place at 20k with oil and fuel filter replacement.

Mine had the engine oil and filter done at 10k as an extra for my piece of mind.

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