Buyin a disco...advice

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Unread post by mr_diesel60 » October 19th, 2009, 10:14 pm

timetogo wrote:
And I did not thrash it - it got serviced very regularly - driven mostly by my wife as a family car.

I refer to it now as my POS. ( use your imagination )

I had to get the POS towed from Darwin to Perth once because I could not fins someone to work on it. I would have had to wait approx 3 months to get an autotrans person to do the work

After I sold it I was contacted by the new owner because of his autotrans cooling line(s) blew off ( not an uncommon problem I beleive ).

An absolute POS!!!

As to what I have now - well its a whole lot more reliable ( for similar K's ) then my POS. But that is not hard. I'd even buy one of those funny SSAYNG YONG ( however you spell them ) things before I'd go Disco again

I used to belong to AULRO forum and I can tell you that compared to the LCOOL forum - there is alot more people having grief n the AULRO forum
Sounds like you may have picked up a bit of a Lemon there mate. I think that this can happen to any make of car (except Toyota of course:D). However, I believe that where there's smoke there's fire so maybe Land Rovers aren't as reliable? Same as the 3.0L Patrols. There are people happy with their car, but plenty who aren't (Another one in the Cars Guide on Friday).

For me, well when you buy a Toyota you know what you're going to get. You pay for it, but looked after it's good for 1 million clicks.

I wouldn't knock back a military spec Defender though.....
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Unread post by 2stroke » October 20th, 2009, 3:45 pm

Pretty sure the military Landies aren't a Defender they're actually a "Deafener". I've had a lot of Landies and they've all given a good run (except a 1980 Rangie which was a P.O.S. when I bought it and cheap and I wheeled it HARD) but other than that I've stuck to old series rigs and now a Defender so way less to go wrong electrically, to be honest I really can't get too keen on Discos or anything with electric windows, central locking etc of any brand as 1000's of k's of corrugations don't care what you drive.

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Unread post by Chilli » October 20th, 2009, 8:10 pm

Hi mate,

I've got a 1992 3.5 litre Disco. I purchased it with 126,000 on the clock about 3 years ago and now It's got 163,000 on the clock. It has always had a full service every 8,000 kms and I picked up a Hayes service manual 2 years ago and now I service it myself. Very easy engine to work around. The Disco I purchased also hadn't seen any off road action and the first things I did were to change all the filters and belts. Haven't had any problems with it at all except that it goes through maybe one spark plug a year. In terms of the electrical issues I think the Discos went to Bosch after 1994 and were using Lucas before this. I think Bosch is the better setup but I've never had any problems with the Lucas myself. More informed Landy posters will know more about this.

My Disco does not leak oil believe it or not and I have heavily modified it since I bought it. I have never put mine on gas and it is thirsty but has been a solid reliable vehicle. If you plan on doing alot of road driving (touring) I would go the 2.5 diesel if I were you, they are only a few thousand dollars more if you can afford it and this will be a cheaper option fuel-wise in the long run. Gas is another option for the V8 but I have heard that there can be issues if you're running a snorkel through the system.

For mine, the 3.5 is a tough little engine but shop around because many of the 3.5s are slugs. The 3.9s are slightly more powerful but also thirstier, but this is all fairly marginal. Hope this helps.
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Unread post by timetogo » October 22nd, 2009, 12:02 pm

Wortho wrote:That's just got to be one of the most stupid comments i have ever seen, if you actually believe that it's pretty sad.

Typical reaction - when faced with the truth they start attacking the person - not the car

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Unread post by Errol » October 22nd, 2009, 1:02 pm

Bugger. You beat me to it Timetogo. Even the moderator was offended by the facts and attacked the poster rather than the vehicle.
This behaviour is common amongst the unwashed whereby they want to kill the messenger.
Some good advice for anyone wishing to buy a Landy. You can easily double its value by putting $10.00 of fuel in the tank or fit a twin exhaust system and you have a wheel barrow. I have lots more for prospective Landy buyers.

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Unread post by Errol » October 22nd, 2009, 1:13 pm

I should add that I own a Land Rover, A pajero and a Hi-lux as well as some sedans. The 3.5 litre Landy is heavily modified in order to overcome the typical pommy shortcommings associated with any English 'engineering'.

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Unread post by 2stroke » October 22nd, 2009, 7:12 pm

So Errol, what Landie do you own and why do you still own it? Just curious.

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Unread post by Mikey0211 » October 22nd, 2009, 9:33 pm

Errol wrote:Bugger. You beat me to it Timetogo. Even the moderator was offended by the facts and attacked the poster rather than the vehicle.
This behaviour is common amongst the unwashed whereby they want to kill the messenger.
Some good advice for anyone wishing to buy a Landy. You can easily double its value by putting $10.00 of fuel in the tank or fit a twin exhaust system and you have a wheel barrow. I have lots more for prospective Landy buyers.


If they are the types of comments you wanna leave when someone is asking for some advice mate, mabey you should find another forum to post your Sh#t on... No one wants to hear it..

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Unread post by Errol » October 23rd, 2009, 9:10 am

"So Errol, what Landie do you own and why do you still own it? Just curious."
Hi 2stroke. It is a 1984 Range Rover and I still own the thing because it owes me a small fortune. Almost everything has been replaced, reconditioned or modified to keep it running. It is now very reliable and a great machine. It chews fuel like it's going out of fashion, but she is as strong as an ox.
I have owned many Pommy cars and they have all been very expensive to own and maintain. In fact I believe the Pomms fitted heated rear windows to their cars so that one could warm their hands whilst pushing them.
Thanks Mikey0211 for your response. I appreciate the effort you must have put in. Your abbreviations are baffling though, eg: Sh#t, with a capital?

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Unread post by Mikey0211 » October 23rd, 2009, 6:30 pm

Errol wrote: Thanks Mikey0211 for your response. I appreciate the effort you must have put in. Your abbreviations are baffling though, eg: Sh#t, with a capital?

No thanks necessary Errol. Not sure what was so baffling about my comment though??:confused:,
I could put it simpler but this is a "G" rated forum..;)

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Unread post by 2stroke » October 23rd, 2009, 8:00 pm

The good thing about owning a Landie is that you either get good at fixing it yourself or just give up and buy something Japanese. I'd rather know that when I'm in the desert somewhere and something goes wrong (which believe it or not happens to Toyota/Nissan/Mitsubishi etc. as well) I have the tools and knowledge of my car to at least have a fighting chance to get out of there.

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Unread post by Wortho » October 24th, 2009, 2:15 pm

Typical reaction - when faced with the truth they start attacking the person - not the car
Not having a go at you just that comment, which is a stupid comment what ever way you look at it. The amount of post's on a forum has no bearing on any vehicle in any way.
When it comes to the truth i have found most Land rover owners to be vey honest about any faults or shortcomings there vehicles may have, much more so than many other makes especially Toyota owners(not all toyota owners) who seem to wear rose coloured glasses when it comes to any faults with there vehicles.

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Unread post by TitanTyres » October 25th, 2009, 9:31 am

I'm on my third disco the first one v8i was a s**tpile in all areas without exception however the second one a 97 mod v8i from a deceased estate one owner log book special is a pearl would not want another 4x4 it charges hard low down torque is sweet. One thing I admit thou is I have no confidence in these boats on the beach coming from a ecotec v6 converted rodeo that absolutley bashed beaches the disco feels like its going to bog everytime I slow down.

Anyway its all about opinions and everyones got theirs I suppose.
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Unread post by timetogo » October 26th, 2009, 1:46 pm

Wortho wrote:Not having a go at you just that comment, which is a stupid comment what ever way you look at it. The amount of post's on a forum has no bearing on any vehicle in any way.
When it comes to the truth i have found most Land rover owners to be vey honest about any faults or shortcomings there vehicles may have, much more so than many other makes especially Toyota owners(not all toyota owners) who seem to wear rose coloured glasses when it comes to any faults with there vehicles.
I am not looking at it through rose coloured glasses - I have owned both Toyo and Landrover and I am well aware that nothing is infallible. But my cruiser has proven to be alot more reliable then my disco and it have taken it through some tought country in the Kimbelries and Pilbra

There are so many more Toyo's and Nissans out there then LR - so that says something in itself ( even if marketing is better etc ).

On the AULRO forum for Disco II's there are alot more posts then on the LCOOL forum and the nature of the posts is different. There are far more posts on AULRO which are to do with problems and hassels then on LCOOL forum wich are more orientated to mods and general questions.

Speaking generally of course.

I know that not all Disco's are expensive lemons like mine was but as I travelled around OZ and would speak to Disco owners in caravan parks etc it was a similar story - perhaps not as bad as mine - but a lot of frustrated owners - frustrated with reliablity, cost of repairs and difficulty of sourcing parts when outside metro areas

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Unread post by Errol » October 26th, 2009, 5:41 pm

Apparently the latest models are more reliable than their predecessors as most of the electronics are from Europe and the mechanicals have been sourced from all over. The diesels are now reasonably economical to run whereas the petrol versions are still heavy.
A mate has just completed a 16,000 kilometre run through the centre of Australia towing a huge home-made camper and the Landy never missed a beat.
So maybe they have improved the reliability of these behemoths, but only time will tell. They are one of those vehicles we all love to hate and enjoy every minute of it. It all seems a bit.......S&M really.

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