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ratbag
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legal??

Unread post by ratbag » December 5th, 2007, 8:00 pm

DJR96 has got the right idea. just get it legal and theres no dramas.
if youre gonna spend that much time and money on a project get it right and get it safe.just coz someone says theyve done it right doesnt mean theyve got a clue what theyre doing

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Unread post by dattopimp » December 5th, 2007, 8:35 pm

lambsy wrote:yeah i have heard of this on xr6turbo.com, even ford at one point were voiding waranties of guys who took there cars to the 1/4 mile and didnt think to remove the number plates (aparently the had someone in the stands taking number plates) also at car shows with plates removed and sticky tape over the rego label ford employees (read absolute low lifes) peeled back the stiky tape and recorded details off the rego lable and voided waranties for mods done to cars.

my advice is black out any numbers or anything that could identify you from phots. txt is another thing as the internet is just somewhere where people make up stuff all the time :).

you never know who is paid to surf the net and try and catch people out
Thread lightly. If people wanna stick superchargers on their cars and do mile long burnouts fair enough, but don't expect someone else to pick up the bill when ***** blows up. One story i heard about a while back was some guy blew something like 5 diffs, after the 5th one ford got suspicious and found out he had all these bolt on mods and was usin the car for drag racing. Had to repay all the work and parts from the work done, and within reason.

Anyway, the main problem is the DOT been so restrictive. And people dobbin others in.
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Unread post by BJ42Brumby » December 20th, 2007, 9:50 pm

Hi all,

I read the Jeep thread.. bleeped over a bit of the build up thread.. but got to the hoohah.
Let me get this right and please correct me if I'm wrong. The guy was building a vehicle, and building it to a high standard of safety and workmanship. And he told people he was taking the vehicle interstate before it had been registered and in fact by Qld laws was illegal. So, this Andy took it upon himself to report the fella to the DOT.
Now, forgetting all the emotional "my kids missed out on Christmas" arguments because emotive arguments should be restricted to the 6.30 timeslot "current affairs" shows that deal in not much else.. chewing gum journalism and can therefore be turned off for something more interesting.
Let's take a look at the facts, in hindsight admittedly, but still facts.
He was going to drive an unregistered, illegal vehicle with his precious cargo of children interstate. Common dog f**k would tell us what his reply would have been to Andy if Andy had indeed PM'd him and suggested he shouldn't drive the unreg, illegally modded vehicle.
Andy then fessed up it was him. Meanwhile he's being bagged by all the halfwits who line up to throw their support behind someone who was doing something dumb, immoral, illegal and just plain foolhardy.
Too all those who are doing mods to their vehicles that don't meet the laws in your states.. be it on your own head. Doubt highly that I'd dob you in but by Christ I hope I never meet you by accident.
Pointing the finger at everyone else when you're doing the stupid thing and claiming you've been victimised is half the problem with this world. People not wanting to take responsibility for their own ill thought out actions and a lack of willingness to accept the consequences. No wonder the Government thinks we need to be regulated at every turn. We're proving them right..
getting off soap box now....

<edit>Oh and if you're thinking I think I'm some holier than though goodie goodie.. I've done dumb things and will again no doubt.. but I have learnt the lesson about legal mods and been caught by it. Bought a big set of ubeaut wheels and tyres for my Brumby.. and THEN learnt they were illegal. Sold the the rims and tyres on ebay and that lesson cost me a grand. Just be safe, peoples.. </edit>
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Unread post by DJR96 » December 20th, 2007, 10:18 pm

BJ42Brumby wrote: And he told people he was taking the vehicle interstate before it had been registered and in fact by Qld laws was illegal.
He was going to drive an unregistered, illegal vehicle
Was he not already registered in NSW? We're all allowed to drive interstate without having to deal with that states DOT etc. You get a grace period of three months before you have to change rego to the state you move to.

If it's legal in one state, it's not going to be some outrageous death machine in another! It's not like it's a transformer or something that'll wipe out everything that gets within 50 yards! Crikey we're only talking about some small technicalities.

There, have your soapbox back. Careful how you use it.:D
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Unread post by hillsjeep » December 20th, 2007, 11:00 pm

Hmmm, so modifying our 4wds is dumb, immoral, illegal and just plain foolhardy huh? Oh dear, this could get nasty :rolleyes:

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Unread post by zorg » December 21st, 2007, 5:56 am

nasty thing to do I agree, but stay smart and always delete or cover up your number plates you never know who could be on the forums, its public access. We used to have HSV people come to our track days and write down number paltes, then refuse to cover warranty claims etc, seen te same happen at Calder etc.

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Unread post by BJ42Brumby » December 21st, 2007, 6:43 am

No. Crikey.. I'm not leaving mine standard. What I'm saying is that modify it within the law and then you don't have to worry about Mr Plod. All you have to worry about is covering identifying stuff so that no thievin' mongrel won't come around and take your pride and joy.
Plus as others have already mentioned.. do not give your insurance company any reason to deny a claim if God forbid that new Mercedes cuts you off and becomes your crumple zone. An old neighbour in his 30's was still paying off one of those situations from his 20's.
I don't agree with dobbing but at least the bugger had the balls to own up about it. He made a hard decision, one I should have the backbone to do instead of live and let live. Mind you, if it was a mate I actually knew I'd call him a few choice things if he'd told me he was gonna drive interstate in an unregistered car..
Modify away but be sensible about it. Keep it safe and preferably legal..

Love the transformer comparison..

If he was still registered there shouldn't have been a problem... even if it was in NSW.. and agreed that the various states with different laws can be REALLY annoying but that's the way it is. And until that changes (laughing there myself) we have to abide by it..
Mind you, I want to fit rear forward facing seats in the Beej so will have to deal with the engineers I assume. I hope I don't have dramas for what I see as a reasonable modification..
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Unread post by hillsjeep » December 21st, 2007, 7:06 am

It was always registered. The DOT came around and visited him while it was still on blocks in his garage. When he got it to NSW it passed inspection on the first visit. Everything he did, he did extremely well, taking absolutely no shortcuts and constantly keeping in touch with the engineer at his hometown as well as the supplier plus the Jeep community at large. He always asked advice where needed and didn't take any risks at all.

Oh BTW Jack only owned up after Yumpet got his name and address from the DOT.

You're correct in that emotions did run very high and that thread was hidden for several months while things calmed down.

Yumpet got the rig to NSW under a temporary permit (for the mods, as said it was registered) and it remains one of the best and probably safest rigs on the road.

Your turn with the soapbox ;)

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Unread post by BJ42Brumby » December 21st, 2007, 7:17 am

Oh well, in that case I stand corrected. Bugger should have shut his mouth and minded his own business.
Will take soapbox out the back tonight and take the axe to it :)
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Unread post by hillsjeep » December 21st, 2007, 9:22 am

Haha, no worries. If only Jack had raised his conserns on the forum in the same way you did, none of this would ever have happenend... ;)

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Unread post by v6hilux » December 21st, 2007, 3:59 pm

This whole thing reminds of the way our current Managers at work got their new jobs.

Dobing-in their work-mates and using info about the old culture in their resume to climb the corporate ladder and getting workers sacked on every step.
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Unread post by BJ42Brumby » December 21st, 2007, 4:36 pm

Oh.. you work in a bank too then :)
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Unread post by Struth » December 21st, 2007, 6:59 pm

v6hilux wrote:This whole thing reminds of the way our current Managers at work got their new jobs.

Dobing-in their work-mates and using info about the old culture in their resume to climb the corporate ladder and getting workers sacked on every step.

You are either a cynic, a grumpy old man or both:D

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Unread post by v6hilux » December 21st, 2007, 10:37 pm

Struth wrote:You are either a cynic, a grumpy old man or both:D
True, but I still got hold of my "job for life" after 23 years.

I seen Managers and work-mates come and go in the the interest of cultural change.

I'm always ready to go up the ladder, but that would cost others their jobs, but I'm a bit pro-union. Yes, it's a big corporation too.

All I want to say is this dobing people in to get a "notch" or story for the resume sucks big time, but is becoming more evident in todays work place and IMHO, that can be linked to DOT or RTA or any transport department worker seeing modded 4WDs and reporting it, even when they off duty and it sucks!
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Unread post by Old Grey » January 10th, 2008, 6:51 am

If you are thinking about moding your fourby try asking your insurer what mods you can make and then try to renew your insurance. Unless you have an engineers cert and are insured with a specialist insurer you can find your insurance voided pretty damn quick. Insurance companies are only paying out if they have to so make your mods carefully

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