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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 15th, 2015, 5:36 pm

Hello Hello

Not sure why I did but I bought a Land Cruiser. Although I drive a Toyota (Hiace) daily I have no idea about these big LC's.
You know, I am a Nissan enthusiast and to be honest never really listened to Toyota talk.
I always checked if the paint was drying when people started talking Toyota....
And now I have one of these big busses....
So, are these CV's really made of spaghetti? Is the drive train really a weak point?
Why do you love your (or hate) your LC? What's so good about this things?
Let me know please.

By the way it is a 2002 LC GXL Aut. with no extra's. It has about 260.000KM on the clock and has never really been used of road. It gets parked on grass so now and then....It has never towed something either. The last seating row has never been used.
It's a car that has been used daily but only as a commuter thing.
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Re: I bought a 2002 LC..... Now, what's so good about them?

Unread post by Aaron Schubert » December 15th, 2015, 7:36 pm

Maybe I missed it, but what engine is in yours? They are a great vehicle for touring, with the turbo diesels the top of the range. The CV's are not as weak as people make out; its all about how and where you drive.

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Re: I bought a 2002 LC..... Now, what's so good about them?

Unread post by patlux » December 15th, 2015, 9:27 pm

CVs are always going to be a weakpoint if you drive like a cock. Front diffs on the 100's leave alittle to be desired, but like i said, just take it easy and im sure it will be right.

Landcruiser are the shiz, only downfall imo is the weight, but fatties need loving too so ;)

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Re: I bought a 2002 LC..... Now, what's so good about them?

Unread post by nilla60 » December 16th, 2015, 3:22 pm

I bought a 105 to replace my 60 (which still had around 10 years left in it), it should last me until I retire. 260k is relatively young, when was the timing belt done last? If you treat the vehicle kindly, it will just keep going. Is it turbo diesel? Is it IFS or live axle?

I did a bit of research when I bought mine, some time after 2002 there were some minor revisions to the gearbox internals, but the local 4wd mechanic was adamant there was nothing to be concerned about if you drive considerately. But you have an auto anyway.

One thing I like about my 60 and my 105 is that I can roll out a swag in the back, perfect when you arrive at a camp site and it is pouring rain.

Now you can pull up outside an outback pub and blend in. Especially if your vehicle is white. ;)

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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 16th, 2015, 7:27 pm

nilla60

Ok, I have to come clear here.....
I am picking up the car tomorrow but.....
I have never seen the car in real, never driven the car.
So, I am going on a blind date.

But I do know the owner ( a tiny bit) and I know how it was used and maintained. It was always used as a shopping trolley and kiddie bus. This car was offered to me by my mate who told me that this car would come up for sale.
Although I kinda knew the owner (he's work mate of my mate) I never really talked to him besides a BBQ and beer talk.
But the price is right and the car looks OK on the photo's.
The car is cheap enough to take a little bit of a risk.
Will see how we go tomorrow.

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Unread post by nilla60 » December 16th, 2015, 9:09 pm

If it is a factory turbo diesel with a known history at even a little bit of a mate's rates discount you'd be mad not to have a look. :)

If it is a 1HZ with an after market turbo, look closely.

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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 17th, 2015, 3:17 pm

It's just a petrol.

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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 17th, 2015, 3:18 pm

I should a have a photo tonight.

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Unread post by Peter Aawen » December 17th, 2015, 3:23 pm

A petrol!! Jeez BigD, you like living life on the edge don't you?!? I thought you were convinced the petrol Patrol guzzled enough!! :eek:
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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 17th, 2015, 4:56 pm

I know, and I agree, and I should know better, and I ......but, but my cheap as chips, ultra reliable, versatile, well maintained,
Rodeo is....uhm....just not my car I think. I tried to fall in love with it, I installed locks, wheels, lifts, winches, astro turf floor mats for that homely feeling, I even got a genuine TJM equipped sticker on the canopy, I did so much to that car to make it more my own but its not a full size 4WD.....

But in my defence....What does a similar 2002 TD cost. I guess somewhere between 22 and 25K? Maybe more....
I am paying less than a quarter.....
I can buy so much fuel for the left over lolly...it's not funny anymore and I do not need to drive it daily
and maybe I am just a silly bum....
Probably that last bit :lol:

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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 17th, 2015, 8:35 pm

So, this is the old new bus.

So far, so good. Done about 75 KM's in it. All that needs to work appears to work. It's quiet and smooth. Airco is Freezing.
What needs doing, repair the lid of the center arm rest and work out how this super duper aftermarket radio thing works.
It has GPS built in but the manual is thicker than me bible.
2 tyres are OK but that's about it.
Well that's about it for now. $6000 is not a bad price I think. My mechanic had a very quick look and he liked it a lot.
Oh, and no IFS it has a live axle at the front.

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Re: I bought a 2002 LC..... Now, what's so good about them?

Unread post by DamoBro91 » December 18th, 2015, 6:45 am

For that price i rekon you got an absolute bargain, and going to make a lot of people sad haha. Thats awesome.

I've owned a fair few older cruisers, 80 60 45 and a few hiluxes. I bought a 105 earlier this year (a manual one though) and here a few things i've noticed.

The petrol isn't as thirsty as i thought. I mean its no Corolla but i was expecting to be able to drive on pay day & thats it. Its not a daily for me either, and i do run gas.

The interior is huge. Its comfortable to travel in. I haven't done any huge trips yet, but the times i have traveled a few hours its been great.

Heaps of room under the bonnet for extra things. Mine has all the gas stuff, heat exchange shower, dual batts, aftermarket ac compressor for endless air and there is still room.

On the tracks i definitely notice how wide it is. Not sure if i got used to being a bit narrower in the lux, but sometimes the trees feel very close on either side. I also find sometimes if there are 2 wheel ruts, I'm a little bit wider so its easier to straddle & get the side biters into the sides of ruts.

They're kind of the main things ive noticed. Overall i'm very happy with mine. I think you got yours for an awesome price. I think if worst comes to worst and you dont like it you'd make your money back selling it.

Good luck with it.

Ps also found out yesterday you can fit a kayak inside with the seats folded down haha.

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Unread post by Aaron Schubert » December 18th, 2015, 6:36 pm

Sounds like a killer buy. I reckon a turbo diesel model would be at least 30 - 45k. They are ridiculously expensive!

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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 18th, 2015, 7:53 pm

Bought a set of BFG AT's (285 x 75 x 16) from Gumtree. The add said that they were bought new and tried for about 1000 KM and put aside for a set of muddies. Life went on and now 2 years later they had to go. Asked $1000. Offered $800. Got there tyres are just like new spare not used. These have not done a 1000 KM. Maybe 100...For some reason seller asked me to make him an offer. I offered $600 and now I have 5 new BFG's for $600. Get them fitted tomorrow.
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Unread post by BigDutchy » December 22nd, 2015, 5:10 pm

Hello again,

I am actually quiet happy with my new LC. She is so much more comfortable than my Rodeo and back in a car with automatic gearbox I love it.
Talking about that gearbox, the way it was changing gears was a little odd. It would rev up a little just before the gear change.
Weird I thought. The owner told me that it has been doing that for a long time.
I was sure (although I am not a mechanic) that it was not the box.
I had an auto gearbox specialist looking at it and quoted me about $600 for some new cable. He showed me the cable that was broken. This was apparently a big job. The sump had to be lowered to get to it.
And he thought that the throttle body sensor was a little sensitive. He was not sure. He would replace the cable first and take it from there.

As Christmas is close I told him not to worry about now. Next year would do as well. I do not need the car anyway.

However it made me think about that cable. It was not really broken the little nipple or stop at the end of the cable had come of. I thought if I can get a small stop/nipple I should be able to repair it myself.

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