Wedge Island changes

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Wedge Island changes

Unread post by Aaron Schubert » April 25th, 2011, 1:07 pm

Hi,

I am sure some of you may have heard of the changes that have occurred (and are continuing to occur). If not, here is a brief summary:

- Camping is now banned in between Lancelin and a few km north of Cervantes
- There is a parliamentary recommendation being made in about 4 months to decide what is going to happen to the Beach Shacks
- Any vehicle that is not road licensed is not permitted at Wedge Island
- There is now a bitumen road that drives right into the Wedge Island precinct (46km passed the turnoff to Lancelin along Indian Ocean Drive.
- The inland track has been modified considerably and is now quite difficult to drive along to Wedge Island without a GPS
- Rumour has it the area is going to be turned into a dedicated camping ground.

It is disappointing to have the camping banned, and I feel sorry for those with the Shacks at Wedge Island too. I was at Wedge Island on Friday, and it was packed with people having a good time. I hope that the changes made don't ruin such an amazing place to visit.

If you want more info, I wrote a post about it at - Changes to Wedge Island

What do you think about Wedge Island?

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by T.rapley » April 25th, 2011, 10:50 pm

i was also there on friday. Awsome day weather wise and although there was a large crowd, everyone we came across was friendly and respectful to the area in general. The new road has no doubt increased the number of people using the area and in turn it will naturally change the overall persona of the area. It used to be like taking a small step back in time while visiting wedge island, but unfortunately I think time has caught up. I sincerely hope the shack owners of wedge and grey are looked after properly by our government and support the area being herritae listed.

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by optical » April 27th, 2011, 8:47 pm

personally, ive been to wedge a handfull of times and the place is a disgrace. Too many young tards going ferral. Wedge is a beautiful area but its full of rednecks belting down the beach and generally being a pain in the arse

i havent been there since the new road went in, but hopefully this changes the place in a good way making it a nice place for everyone to enjoy

im generally against things being commercialised, but the trash needs to be taken out of wedge and this might just happen and make it more viable for families to enjoy without being run over on the beach or having sand in their lunch when the rescue chopper picks up yet another victim of the dunes

btw im not an old bastard, im still under 30 so stfu before someone claims im an old whining artifact :D

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by Aaron Schubert » April 27th, 2011, 11:59 pm

I can't say I've ever really seen the young hoons there, but I have heard stories. Either way, its an awesome place and needs to stay that way.

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by steve.j » April 28th, 2011, 12:06 am

T.rapley wrote: I sincerely hope the shack owners of wedge and grey are looked after properly by our government.
This sh!ts me.... Why the hell should they be "looked after"? For building shacks on land thats not theirs and then cryin foul when they're told to remove them? They had a damn good run, now clean up your mess and move on. Every-where else up the coast has had the shacks removed, why should they be any different ?
And if they can keep them, then we should all be allowed to go put one up at our favourite spots too, and then put up gates to keep others away from OUR area!! Wouldnt that be a bloody eyesore !
What should be done, IMO, now that the new road is in, is put in several camping area's all the way to Dongara. Open the place up !! After all, it belongs to us all ! Charge $5/$10 per vehicle/night, basic campsites, enviro loo's, rubbish bins, rangers employed to look after it all.
We have a massive coastline, we should be encouraging people to use it.
Thats my thoughts anyway.

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by blacky208 » April 29th, 2011, 8:38 pm

I was up there on Monday and have to say first time to wedge but it's sad they have banned camping. I'm a huge fan of being able to drive anywhere and camp. I have to admit it annoys me everytime I go on some tracks where idiots don't know how to let their tyres down or show off by staying in 2wd and screwing the tracks for everyone. Being young I do get looks everytime I go places people thinking I'm just out there to hoon around :mad:

By the way I'm looking for any other Dmax owners in WA??

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by T.rapley » May 16th, 2011, 2:26 pm

steve.j, you ask Why the hell should they be "looked after"?

#1: The residents and shack owners of Wedge and Grey have been paying rates every to the local/state governments. They have recieved virtually nothing in return for this except for the rite to use and occupy their shacks. These rates in recent years have in some cases been upwards of $1000.00 per year. This is a good starting point to suggesting that the current occupents of this areas should be looked after in some way. The majority of the shack owners have also been the major contributor to looking after these brilliant areas that have been neglected by the local authorities.
#2: why don't we all go and find the nearest bit of land and say we own it? The Wedge and Grey settlement were formed maily by the commercial fishos that used the areas to operate from. This comment that you made Steve is very 'tit for tat' and small minded. Clearly in modern day society this is no longer permissible. But it was when these areas were settled. You making this comment is along the lines of saying that back when the settlers reached our aussie shores they made claim to their land. If they could do it back then then why cant we. It doesnt take a rocket scientist to work out that's no longer possible!
#3: "Open the place up !! After all, it belongs to us all !" This is another great comment of yours! These two settlements , including the shacks, roughly graded roads and the oppurtunity for exlporation are a big reason for people to go to wedge and grey. It is a remarkable area that has been almost unchanged by time and monetary value. Wedge and Grey have always been open to us all, but these shacks are part of the area in a huge way. There has never been any problem in camping in the surrounding areas and sharing the space untill people, maybe like yourself, have realised that they might be missing out in some way? It is a shame that people have an attitude like yours. I would guess that this along with careless people leaving rubbish, mess etc is what has led to the rangers putting a ban on camping.
#4: I agree with you regarding the basic campsites, bins and eviro loos because there is no doubt this is better for the environment, but there is still no reason to remove the shacks and close the surrounding areas.
#5: It is the very fact that this is the last of this kind of settlement along the coast makes it important to save these settlements. They are historic in their own right and have played a significant part in our coastline's development and fishing indusrty's history.

I hope the people whom are making the decisions regarding Wedge and Grey's future are more sensible and less vindictive.

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by steve.j » May 25th, 2011, 1:55 pm

I guess we'll agree to dis-agree eh, cause the arguments you made certainly dont make me change my point of view.
I see it like this, 1 person finds a nice campsite, likes it, claims it as his own. Then makes it so that no-one else can use it, even when he's not there, which is the majority of the time.
Now, clearly in a modern day society this is not permissible, surely it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work that out.
Basic facts are, they do not own the land, they should not have a permanent structure built there.
I hope that the people making the decision on the future of the area make a decision that benefits every one that wants to visit, camp, and enjoy a top area, and not just a small handful of people with a vested interest.

Cheers

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by Guest » May 29th, 2011, 11:50 am

I remember there being a sand bar that you use to be able to drive across to Wedge Is. Is it still there and can you still drive on it to the Island?

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by T.rapley » May 30th, 2011, 11:14 pm

ive been there when the sand bar is about knee deep, but never when it has bee above the water.

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by Guest » June 1st, 2011, 10:22 am

Mind you, it was about 23 years ago that a cousin and I did that. I wonder if anyone else remembers that you use to be able to do that.

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by Aaron Schubert » June 6th, 2011, 9:28 pm

The only time I have ever been across to the island we had to swim a bit of the distance. I believe the only part of the island you are allowed on is the corner that the sand bar goes to. Its possible the sandbar comes up at times, but I have never seen it like that

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by Potta » June 29th, 2011, 3:13 pm

As far as I am aware, and I am no expert, but if you claim a piece of land by putting a fence around it or whatever, and no-one disputes your claim within 7 years, you become the rightful owner of said land.

I could be wrong but this is the understanding that I have had for many years.

And no, I've never claimed any land, I just thought it would be an interesting bit of information to point out.

Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong.

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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by 4x4boi » August 22nd, 2011, 9:27 am

Potta, I have heard something similar to you on the matter, I can't remember how long you had to hold the claim for but I'm pretty sure it had to be on crown land. Now i'm not sure if the Wedge area is crown land...

I went up there about this time last year, you were still allowed to camp there then. It tends to be the case that as soon as the blacktop goes in it all goes to sh*t. I think that the whole lancelin to cervantes area has had trouble with riff-raff for a long time though.
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Re: Wedge Island changes

Unread post by Guest » August 29th, 2011, 11:06 am

I`ve heard a slightly different slant on that story. I heard that if a squatter had been living in a building that hasn`t been occupied by anyone else after an X amount of time, they can lay claim of ownership.

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