IPF Spot Light Globes

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IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Twisty » May 26th, 2004, 12:43 pm

One of the bulbs has blown on my IPF Spotties, they are the large rectangle type ones.

Just wondering where the best place to get replacement globes are? Do you have to get IPF ones from ARB or or they just a rip off and I should just go to KB Auto or similar?

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Wilesy » May 26th, 2004, 1:09 pm

I would just pop into K-Mart and pick up a replacement.

Done it plenty of times myself, as you only need a standard H3 130 watt, I think they are good enough.

At about $12-18.00 pretty good value.

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Twisty » May 26th, 2004, 1:16 pm

Cool thanks Wilesy....

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Simon » May 26th, 2004, 4:28 pm

[quote author=Wilesy link=board=5;threadid=2946;start=0#msg45508 date=1085540954]
I would just pop into K-Mart and pick up a replacement.

Done it plenty of times myself, as you only need a standard H3 130 watt, I think they are good enough.

At about $12-18.00 pretty good value.


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Wilesy, you ashould be ashamed of yourself!

Paying 12-18 bucks for a cheapo crappo globe is crazy.

You should pay no more than $10 for a quality H3 made by Osram, hella, narva, phillips, GE, tungsrem, ect.

If its made in korea or taiwon dont buy it.

If its made in Germany or Hungary it should be fine.
(Japanese bulbs vary in quality apparently, so steer clear of them too.

Quality 130 watters are hard to come by tho, but a quality 100watt globe is better than a cheapo 130w anyway ;)

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by TCM » May 26th, 2004, 4:58 pm

If you want to buy top quality, drop past ARB and get a set of their HIR bulbs - they are expensive (read VERY expensive) but they are worth the extra dosh in my opinion.

A 65w bulb gives out as much light as a regular 130w Halogen and its a much whiter light which is less straining on the eyes.

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Twisty » May 26th, 2004, 5:07 pm

So since they are the original bulbs in the spotlights should I buy a pair of what ever I get so both spotties have exactly the same?

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Simon » May 26th, 2004, 5:19 pm

As a matter of fact Ive been doing some research on them there HIR globes.

And it appears that in a spotlight situation thre is no benifet in using $100 HIR globes :o

A 65watt HIR light produces 2350 lumens (lumens is a measure of light output), and a quality 100watt H3 produces 2300 lumen, hardly notice the difference except in your wallet.

The only place a HIR becomes worthwile, (if you have money to burn) is in say a 100series LC, which uses HB3 and HB4 globes, neither of these globes are available in 100watts, so the respective HIR globes arequite a bit brighter than standard globes.
(HB3, 65w= 1700lumen vs HIR HB3, 65w=2350lumen)
(HB4, 55w=1000lumen vs HIR HB4, 55w=1870lumen)

A 100 watt H1 globe, (as used in a lot of quality driving lights) produces 2600lumen .

HIR globes are not available in dual fillement globes either, (unless they have just been invented) so if you have someone try and tell you they have HIR H4s they could well be mistaking ;)
From what I can understand all HIR globes come from the same factory, (in Hungary) and the likes of IPF, buy them from makers that put the bulbs on their own bases, which is what makes them so expensive (that fact is hearsay only)
I am in the process of chasing up some leads in buying some HIRs for around the $50 each mark, if I can find em even cheaper Ill let you know.

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Simon » May 26th, 2004, 5:22 pm

[quote author=twisty_toy94 link=board=5;threadid=2946;start=0#msg45572 date=1085555267]
So since they are the original bulbs in the spotlights should I buy a pair of what ever I get so both spotties have exactly the same?


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I always buy bulbs in pairs, but dont always fit them i pairs, I like to compare different globes side by side, it can be enlightening to say the least ;)

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Simon » May 26th, 2004, 5:24 pm

[quote author=High N Mighty link=board=5;threadid=2946;start=0#msg45568 date=1085555109]
http://www.bulbman.com ;D
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Good link for household globes ;) ;D ;D ;D

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Twisty » May 26th, 2004, 5:24 pm

I'll buy a pair then and see if I can notice a difference, then I'll always have a spare either way. Thanks for your help.

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by TCM » May 27th, 2004, 10:16 am

[quote author=tritondriver link=board=5;threadid=2946;start=0#msg45575 date=1085555994]
And it appears that in a spotlight situation thre is no benifet in using $100 HIR globes :o

A 65watt HIR light produces 2350 lumens (lumens is a measure of light output), and a quality 100watt H3 produces 2300 lumen, hardly notice the difference except in your wallet.
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TD remember figures only tell half the story - I was given some HIRs to test in my rally car - the 4x 65 HIR bulbs replaced the 4x 130w Halogen bulbs in the 4 IPF 900s mounted in my light pod. There was very little difference in the light output and as I said before the light is a much whiter light, which tends to make it easier to see ruts and rough patches. In addition I used to go through at least 1 bulb an event due to vibration, the HIRs have been in there for three events and are still ok.

Everyone is entiltled to their opinion of course, but will I be buying another set when these ones die? Absolutely!

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by Simon » May 27th, 2004, 2:08 pm

[quote author=TCM link=board=5;threadid=2946;start=0#msg45763 date=1085616982]


TD remember figures only tell half the story - I was given some HIRs to test in my rally car - the 4x 65 HIR bulbs replaced the 4x 130w Halogen bulbs in the 4 IPF 900s mounted in my light pod. There was very little difference in the light output and as I said before the light is a much whiter light, which tends to make it easier to see ruts and rough patches. In addition I used to go through at least 1 bulb an event due to vibration, the HIRs have been in there for three events and are still ok.

Everyone is entiltled to their opinion of course, but will I be buying another set when these ones die? Absolutely!
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You are quite right TCM, but obviously your HIRs replaced IPF 130w H3s.
IPF 130watters are obviously "imaginary" watts, even looking at the results of 4WD monthlys driving light comparo shows that the HIRs are much brighter than IPFs own 130watters ;)

None of my research has specificly mentioned IPF, (because they are not a globe maker I suspect) but much testing has been done and suggests that lumens is the only way to measure how good lights/globes are.

Bit like the "blue" globes Im trialing at the moment, whiter, but no less light, (less light actually, its all a bit of a con)

Just for a little experiment why dont you try some say, Tungsram 100w (or even 130w if you can source them) globes, Id be interested to know what you thought of the difference.

While Im not knocking HIR at all, I just question the price, sure they are better, but are they 900% better?

Same as HID, cool if you got the dough, but if you havnt I dont think its wortwile spending the extra 1000% or so.

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by cuttin loose » May 27th, 2004, 2:41 pm

there's a place in the states that sells IPF lights...

http://www.intakeone.com

i'm sure they'd be able to send some out to you... they seem cheaper than what you'd buy here if you wanted the real deal... ;D ;D

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Re:IPF Spot Light Globes

Unread post by TCM » May 27th, 2004, 3:23 pm

[quote author=tritondriver link=board=5;threadid=2946;start=0#msg45867 date=1085630917]Just for a little experiment why dont you try some say, Tungsram 100w (or even 130w if you can source them) globes, Id be interested to know what you thought of the difference.[/quote]

I've run both Tungsram and Narva bulbs in the past, the biggest issue is that with 130w bulbs they tend not to last, the vibration kills them which doesn't seem to affect the 65w HIRs as much.

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