cracks lux- tray choped and roof lights

[crack]

well finally got my new hilux its a 1992 2.8ld with 188000km on the clock so pretty good i think. moneys a bit tight at the moment untill i go back to work in 6wks (shut down time)

heres the plan:
chrome track 2 rims and 31" goodyear mud tyres
arb bullbar
snorkel
extractors
turbo (dunno yet just an idea)
ome supension with 2" of lift or rancho if i can find anyone that does it ova here etc etc.
6x 800sc ipf spots
whinch
heres a few pics

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/veiw1.jpg

when i bought it

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/front2.jpg

and again

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/nc3.jpg

after oi took the cage and canvas off (gonna change the setup)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/tray.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/rl3.jpg

some cheap work lights for my tray i hooked up

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/rl5.jpg

[crack]

hmm crap those pics are massive how do i make em smaller anyone?

[PJ.zook]

Shrink em in a prog like paint shop pro, hell even paint that comes with windows will do it.

[Loz]

So are you based in Albany or is that just where the ute came from? 2" lift is good. Any more than thatin West OZ is expensive to licence. I bet you get an extra 20kmh without that canopy on. Careful you dont cop a sticker for the reversing lights!

Good luck

Loz

[Boxa]

I look forward to the build. You cant start from anything more stock.

[Manky]

Nice choice of vehicle, looks good! That bullbar looks the same as mine came with. GET RID OF IT! The ARB bar will be much more useful and provides heaps more protection. I have ome suspension too an can't fault it, deffinantly a huge improvement in every way over the stock setup, especially when you're carrying a bit of extra weight with a bullbar etc. Welcome to the Hilux club and have fun!

[crack]

yeh loz i am in albany where are you? yeh the canopy slowed her down a fair bit so im thinking of getting a new one or changing the origional. i hook the tray lights up so they are seperate the the reverse lights on the car so they only come on when i flick the switch. ill be putting 2 more under the car as its quiet hard to see with those lights as they reflect of the back of the tray. i just put diff breathers on yesterday ran the front to the engine bay and the rear to the roll bar. cost me about $40.
cheers
jack

[luxa]

Have a go at the lift yourself - plenty of guys here to give you some advice if you run into trouble
I thought Rancho delivered..... (www.4wd1.biz)

Don't forget to add polyurathane bushes and greasable shackles to the list.

[luxa]

Nice choice of vehicle, looks good! That bullbar looks the same as mine came with. GET RID OF IT! The ARB bar will be much more useful and provides heaps more protection. I have ome suspension too an can't fault it, deffinantly a huge improvement in every way over the stock setup, especially when you're carrying a bit of extra weight with a bullbar etc. Welcome to the Hilux club and have fun!


I think thats the same bar as my 2.4D - and it came with an ARB sticker on it.
Anyone wanna swap for a winch bar ;)

[smac]

looks like a good buy mate.

[crack]

yeh have thought about doing it my self luxa but i dont have anything to lift the car off the ground withtho i think my mate has a smal crane in his shed. unless i just hold it up with sum drums or sumthing? it would bve handy to know how to do it mny self.
cheers
jack

[luxa]

yeh have thought about doing it my self luxa but i dont have anything to lift the car off the ground withtho i think my mate has a smal crane in his shed. unless i just hold it up with sum drums or sumthing? it would bve handy to know how to do it mny self.
cheers
jack


You should be able to pick up a pair of axle stand for under $100. Compare the cost of getting the suspension fitted to buying the tools you need - remember once you've brought the tools you've got them for next time!!
You need to support the chassis to change the springs so make sure you get HIGH stands that can do this.
Drums :o mate your asking for trouble, not worth the damage if the vehicle drops - to you, your mate or the truck.

[crack]

yeh couple good points there luxa. if i was to get rancho suspension wat shocks should i be looking at and are the roackcrawler leafs any good? if sumone could give us a couple good supenion setups that would be great!
cheers
jack

[greenmudgoblin]

You'll want a turbo before long definately, my mate got one on his lux and it completly transformed it (its next on the shopping list for my 3 litre). For a cheap good quality lift go see Great Southern Spring works on chesterpass rd. He'll modify the stock springs to whateva ya want for a fraction of the price. And when u get those muddies, head straight out to Redmond state forest after a big rain (so any time u like in albany)

[crack]

greebmubgoblin thanks for that about sring works i fogot they were there. yeh i would like to go out to redmond some time.
i made up some diff breather myself after reading the post on the forum that cost me about 40$ and i got the crappy uhf that came witht he car working. that goingf to get chucked and going to buy a uhf witht he cop scanner and buy one of those portable garmin gps (i think thats wat its called, the one madmac has got)
jack

[Loolux]

Always good to start with a stocker. You get to see the final results that you know you built yourself. I would like to show you photos of my lux but I bloody don't know how!!! Can anyone help me?

[crack]

as the name says finally got me some decent tyres instead of cheese cutters! they are just sava rv but theyll do for now piked em up cheap from my mate for 500$ 3wks old. getting sum csa alloys soon tho. sorry no pics yet as puta is buggered ill try get some soon tho. yay now the mods are begging as the cash starts flowing!!
jack

[luxor]

Nice hilux. my old man is moving over to albany in FEB - MAR. and wants someone to go 4 wheelin with.

[crack]

well mods are still slow but i now have a new arb whinch bar on layby got 300$ to pay off ...cant wait. yeh computre is still stuffed so no pics but when the bar goes on ill try get sum! afta the bar goes on its time for sum spotties.

cheers luxorr. what does ya old man drive? im part of the 4wd club down here to so he should join that as well. well when he comes over tell him to give us a yell.

[crack]

ok as the name says ive finally got my arb winch bar after waiting 3wks delivery. so now the mods so far are
-arb winch bar
-sava all terrains 31x10.5 on 15x8 sunrasiya rims
-diff breathers
-sony xplod stereo which includes 2x 6" 2X 6by9's 600w amp and mp3 head unit.
along with some interior mods and some more to come

what im still to get
- chrome track 2 rims 15x8 and some muddies!
- set of ipf's 900 (i think) for the bar
- new uhf one with the cop scanner
- going to put a new roll bar on (so any tips etc would be appreciated)
- im thinking bout making the ass end look sexy with a part tray rebuild.
-new canopy
-turbo or anew motor might try get a lexus v8 put in (damm u nem and twisty)
- and some lukey extractor and muffler with a 21/4 pipe soon.

well thats it for now more will be added. pics will be up tonight when i pick my car up! ;D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/000_0102.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/000_0100.jpg

sorry bout the pics ill get betta ones later.

[crack]

well its been awhile scince ive updated this. few things have changed now got lightforce 240blitz spotties and i am now running with the idea of 1uz fe conversion. toying with the idea of running a sc14 supercharger on it going to talk to rotomotion this friday about that. got a mechanic to do the converison.

ordered new suspension today. got tough dog foam cell shocks and rtc, west coast suspension springs (dunno how these will go but ill give em a try) new pins shackles bushes. hopefully ill have this installed before i go back to work.

anyway thats a bit of a update

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0130.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0134.jpg

[boof]

looking good mate 8)

I would try the 1uz without forced induction first ;) I am not sure if the driveline would handle a S/C mine will spin all 4 33s now. ;D

But if you are willing to strengthen as it breaks then go for it ;D

[crack]

ythats wat i was think go without it first see what happens then try it with it on ....if it breaks ill just have to fix it with bigger and better stuf...damm :P

how ya yours been? are u running body lift or just suspension to fit the 33's?

cheers
jack

[boof]

Iam running 2" sus and 2" body to fot the 33s. You will also have to look at what gearbox you ar running as well!!

[crack]

wat gearbox are you running? i asked twisty but i havnt heard from him yet. i spose the std hilux box wont cut the mustard. thinking supra box but how would that go hooking up to the transfer case etc? might ask guts wat hes running.

[boof]

Guts is still running his standard box, his is holding up to the punishment I believe.

Twisty and Nemesis are running R150s which are standard V6 4Runner boxes.

I upgraded from the standard W56 to a R151f which is the same box as Twisty and Nem but with a different 1st gear ratio. Mines from a surf.

The R series boxes are the stronger ones available and are basically a supra box.

The latest V6 Luxes have a R type also but these are still expensive to buy.

I changed mine because as Twisty said to me if you change later you have to get another bellhousing adapter kit. ;)

I sold my old box for what I paid for the new one with transfer, but I got a bargain. (Thanks again Twisty ;D)

[crack]

ah ok cheers boof well when im in perth tomorrow might hunt down a few boxs and get prices. cheers might even look for a motor as well

[bimborocks]

Nice looking truck you have there. Mine is very similar only it is a 90 model.

Just wondering how you lifted the tray off the ute and roughly how heavy do you think it is. I want to pull my tray off and give it a spray of pain under and on top but have no idea how i am going to lift it off cause i reckon it will be REALLY heavy

cheers
james

[crack]

bim brocks last time i took it off it was f@*king heavy with 4 people lifting it. when i did the body lift i just used a jack. but to take it off if u got access to a overhead crane or sumthing that would be the easiest option!

heres a update. now go extractors and maxxis bighorn 31" mud tyres and a 2" body lift. not sure about the lexus now as im thinking of getting a patrol ute in the next year or 2. anyway few pics.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0217.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0219.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0226.jpg

[bimborocks]

yeah i figured it might be pretty darn heavy. might go and visit my parents and use the block and tackel in my old mans shed.

What suspension are you running and how do you find it? i am looking at getting new gear on all corners soon

cheers
james

[crack]

ive got tough dog foam cell shocks and rtc steering dampner, west coast suspension leaf packs dunno if youll find them over east. all new bushes and greasable pins and shackels. cost me bout $1900 and i fitted it myself.

[jimbo jones]

are you going to lift the bar to match the body lift?
jimbo

[crack]

yeh i will i just gotta get around to doing it ...it annoys the crap out of me. just trying to work out wat needs to be done.

[nate]

hey mate, good stuff

[-BJ-]

Its looking good man. I know a patrol is a step up, but each time you sell a vehicle you usually lose out. Ive done it too many times :rolleyes: I always think about selling my Lux, but its easier to keep it. So what im saying is...keep your Lux :D

[crack]

yeh thats true but if i keep it i can see a s#*t load of money going into it acually same with a patrol if i get one. if i keep this i want to drop a v8 or a supra engine in it and do a sas on front and back so this is why i was thinking gu patrol ute coils all round. anyway scince these pics ive got 75% tint on it and half made up rear mud guards and about to put central locking in it mabye do it tomorrow (i keep locking keys in me car)

[boof]

yeh thats true but if i keep it i can see a s#*t load of money going into it acually same with a patrol if i get one. if i keep this i want to drop a v8 or a supra engine in it and do a sas on front and back so this is why i was thinking gu patrol ute coils all round. anyway scince these pics ive got 75% tint on it and half made up rear mud guards and about to put central locking in it mabye do it tomorrow (i keep locking keys in me car)


You already have solid axle front? and rear?
Do you mean coil it all round? I would have a look at Guts rig in members thread if you need some inspiration about what you can do with yours:D

[crack]

yeh i ment coils all round sorry :P oh ill check guts build up out i didnt relise he had put coils on.

[boof]

yeh i ment coils all round sorry :P oh ill check guts build up out i didnt relise he had put coils on.


He doesnt he has leafs and when you see how it performs why convert it?
His is as good :D

[crack]

must of been someone else with coils on there lux i dunno. yeh ill have a good read of his buildup tonight.

[Mud_Runna]

nice lux mate

[crack]

well bit of an update ive decided im keeping the lux. so now heres the list of things to come.

- turbo system and mabye intercooler
- snorkel
- dual batteries
- second set of tyres for offroad 33's or 35's
- center console with waeco fridge (if it fits)
- under tray tool box's
- roof lights

[king55]

Looking good crack just do what i do have the patrol and your hilux.

[crack]

haha i wish! maybe a few years down the track! i was thinking that today acually.

[toyota mick]

Did You Have 2 Modify Much To Get Bodylift On? Steering Shaft?brake Lines?

[crack]

only had to get a steering shaft extension everything else was fine oh still have to lift the bullbar been a few months now and i still havnt done it

[BundyLilux]

Nice ride mate keep up the good work

[4wd_Haggis]

Good choice to stay with the lux. A tell yas i have seen and heard heaps say they r gonna sell the mighty lux then can't part from it.
Lookin fwd to seein the improvements

[-BJ-]

Good to hear you're keeping the Lux crack. If you bought a Patrol you would've ended up going nuts with that too, say its easier to keep the Lux ;) I just wish I still had mine :(

[crack]

well snorkel is on and i got the blue filters for me spotties they make quiet a difference in light its a nice whiter light. anyway heres a picture

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0284-1.jpg

next is the turbo hopefully somtime in april otherwise if i cxant get it done when im up in perth then itll wait and ill get me dual batteries sorted out

[crack]

oh and some sliders im gonna be making up. cheers for the comments to guys!

[crack]

and one more :)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0283-1.jpg

[nate]

looks good crack me likey :)

[crack]

well heres an update i now have 33 bfg mud terrains and a dts turbo system. dont have any pics yet will get some when and if it ever stops raining.

the 33's scrub really bad even with 4" of lift. so im getting some extended shacklesn which i hope will fix the problem. next on the list is a custom tray. ill be doing somthing similar to guts's tray. if all goes to plan im entering my first comp in september, may have lockers by then to depending on what i do with my motorbike.

[THE RIG]

looking good crack,get some new pics up with the new treads

[boof]

Sounds good as above we need pics :D

[Celt's]

sounds like it's gonna be a weapon crack, look forward to seeing how your tray goes and good luck with your first comp. And may i be the third to ask for some nice new pics please.:p :D

[crack]

haha yes i know i need pics! well its stoped raining but the batterys are flat and i cant find any good ones. will have a scout around again. in the mean time heres a rough design for me tray pretty sure im gonna go with a 3" steel tube rollbar.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/traydesign1.jpg

[hilux_bondy_007]

lookin good man, the strip lights will suit that tray, cant wait for the pics and tray to start.

[crack]

well no pics yet few probs with camera. but heres a video of a mud run.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/th_930df4ca.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/?action=view&current=930df4ca.flv)

[THE RIG]

cool video crack,looked like fun,was this video taken after the turbo was installed? what difference did it make?


tom

[crack]

yeh mate it was and the 33's. huge difference ay even with the 33's just need a locker now. hopefully ive got one organised. ive got another vid of me going through a different line there but i got well and truly stuck! will post up couple other vids later on when i get time. try and get a camera so i can take a photo of her not covered in mud and a decent shot

[THE RIG]

sweet as man,i cant wait till i turbo mine,may i ask what the kit cost? and is it intercooled?


tom

[crack]

it cost me 3.5k with a ne exhust. i havnt intercooled it yet as they dont do kits for hilux's anymore so its gonna be a custom job. prolly get the intercooler off my mates 180sx and then just source a few parts here and there.

iv got a dyno print out ill have to scan it and post it up. im getting better fule economy on the highway but thats parlty due to the bigger tyres changing the gear ratios so she aint reving to much. but fuel economy around town isnt the best because i dont have a turbo fuel pump so its over fueling. thats on the long list of things to do.

any other questions dont hesitate to ask.

[THE RIG]

ok thanks dude,what size zorst did they throw on,i hear from some,that 3'' is the go,and 2.5'' from others?


tom

[nate]

good stuff :D

[Celt's]

great vid crack, look forward to seeing some fresh pics soon.

[crack]

tom i got a 21/4 inch because thats what united fuel injection reccomended. next year im gonna get another muffler (bit more of a performance one) so i may even upgrade the exhust then to, bu ti dont wanna go to big because i dont want it to be overly loud

[THE RIG]

well i guess if they recommend it,it must be ok,and theres no use drawing more attention to yourself with a loud zorst

[H2OHVN]

Hey crack, quick question when you first fitted your 240 blitz lights did you notice an increase in temp on your gauge as they take a fair amount of room in front of radiator and how was the temp increase when you whacked the turbo on any feedback would be great...
thanks, Tim

[crack]

nah mate i didnt notice a difference in temp with the lights tho it did cross my mind. as for the turbo i havnt noticed any temp increase in normal driving but when going through a deep mud hole nearly at full revs the temp did increase a little but barley noticable. im getting a intercooler off a 180sx at xmas time so this should solve any probs and give me a lil extra power.

jack

[H2OHVN]

hey thanks crack for the reply i figure if it dont o'heat in west oz should be ok sydney.

Tim

[crack]

well ive got me detroit ez lokker just waiting for new pin and spring kit. also ordering a heap of gear including extended shackles, droped drag link, and moving my diff foward plus a few lil other bits and peices to go with it all, trying to get me truck ready for my comp!

can someone do some photo chopping for me? just wanna see what mu ute looks like with the tray choped back couple foot if anyone could help that ber great!

will get photos next weekend when everything will be going in hopefully :)
oh its gonna be all snake racing gear.

cheers
jack

[THE RIG]

geez you got some plans for this ute jack,sounds good though man.whens the comp?

[crack]

yeh i got a few plans. id like to take it off the road in 2years time when ive finished my apprenticship and can afford a partol to tow it.

comp is 8-9th of september heres the website theres a twaser on here to Adrenalin 4x4 Inc - 4WD Events (http://www.adrenalin4x4.net)

[THE RIG]

sounds great jack. so you wanna make it a fulltime comp truck then
thanks for the link mate

[crack]

yeh would be nice...till then it tis but a dream. the comp isn tmuch compared to what u guys have over there but wa is still in its early stages.

ill try get some pictures tomorrow to

cheers
jack

[THE RIG]

yeah man i wanna see some pics

[Celt's]

crack you have to take pics most definately.;)

[crack]

well avnt got camera working yet but found a couple.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/100_0470.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/100_0480.jpg

and my lokker
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/IMG_1229a.jpg

[crack]

also in the mail is front and rear extended shackles, droped drag link, torque rod, axle relocation plates and tail shaft spacer. thanx to snakeracing for being so profesional and a great help with all of my questions!

jack

[crack]

well everything is in barr the locker and axle relocation plates, dont think im gonna need the axle relocation plates anymore. need to get some caster wedges as the front springs are on a wicked angle. its fixed the scrubbing issue excpet on full lock flexing but its not as bad, i know have full travel got some pics on my phone but they are crap. will get some wheeling next weekend.

jack

[Tower]

also in the mail is front and rear extended shackles, droped drag link, torque rod, axle relocation plates and tail shaft spacer. thanx to snakeracing for being so profesional and a great help with all of my questions!

jack

looking better each time i see it mate top work with this one, good to hear you had an easy time getting stuff from snake racing, they couldnt even get a sticker order right for me,

[crack]

well ran my first comp came 7th out of roughly 40 trucks which a majority were lockedf ront and rear with all the bells and whistles so im absolutly stoked! here are a couple pics have more coming a vids!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/IMG_6186.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/IMG_1560a.jpg

well i have an oil leak now and rearranged the front end and stuffed front to springs which are close to brand new so shes comming off the road. gonna get a complete service and new injectors and glow plugs, detroit lokker in the rear, parabolic springs and long travel shocks, chopping tray down, and respraying her gun metal grey or a silver of some sort. and looking at getting some bigger boots for offroad and comp work.

cheers
jack

[-BJ-]

Sweet as Jack ! Gotta be happy with that result, what sort of rubber are you thinking about ?

[crack]

bloke i know over here has a set of 36" bfg muddies that have had another groove added for $1600 cant memba if it was for 4 or 5. otherwise might look at some simex tyres or the maxxis muddies cant memba what they called but the hell extreme mud tyres. but im open to sujestions.

[rustyzook]

maxxis treapadors is what my bro and i run on our 4runner! there awsome, but by the look of that you would prob be better with the maxxis mudzillas or the MT claw, simex peeds trecker2's are awsome in the mud but die abit in the rocks and sand! the BFG Krawler is awsome on rocks! and maxxis make on simler called the creepy crawler

[Celt's]

Congrats on the 7th Crack that is fantastic. Look forward to seeing some more pics/vid. Well done:thumb:

[boof]

Well done mate top effort. Get yourself some boggers or Simex mate.

[crack]

cheers guys! havnt got the vids back yet but ute is now in shed ready to be fixed up wish i had a bigger shed only just fits. well heres a pic of me turbo which isx long overdue and a couple others.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0008.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0010.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0012.jpg

[crack]

well heres a coupel pics of my buggered front springs. this one is only 4-5weeks old!!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0002.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0001.jpg

[THE RIG]

7th is awesome jack for your first go,congrats dude,shame about the damage though,but it can be fixed

[ozrunner]

I was there having a look and you guys and the guys in the Lux from Albany were impressive, considering you were up against some very modded rigs.

Believe me those pics above are the super mild sections as there was some extreme stuff. The huge Ford recovery tractor certainly got a workout :D

Well done.

[crack]

cheers ozrunner, we were the guys from albany! yeh cant wait to get rest of pics and vbids off me mate should be aliot of the good stuff in there

[Malua]

what springs are they, thats a bit of carnage man id be very disapointed if my snake leafs looked like that!

[crack]

they are west coast suspension springs 2" lifted but more like 3" sagged. im gonna try get me money back and get parabolics in the front then when i got more funds some for the rear.

[Malua]

**** were u out doin big jumps or something haha

[crack]

nope they were pretty bad as soon as i pujt the new ones on then comp just totalled them

[ozrunner]

cheers ozrunner, we were the guys from albany! Thought your truck pics looked familar :D You might remember the spectator then that returned your stanley knife that your navigator dropped at a previous section :D

[crack]

haha oh i rememeber you haha cheers for that. dunno why he put it on the ground for.

jack

[Z()LTAN]

whatup crack! im the navi of the white coiled GQ ute we got 4th on the day and 3rd now.

I was looking at your rig on the day and saw the sagged springs, i did point it out to one of you but i cant remember who.

Orsm to see you going hard down there and come out with only minor cosmetic damage

If you are serious about the parabolics go to westralia spring works
2 Dowd street welshpool PH: 9451 5151
Westralia Spring Works - Specialists in Suspension: Manufacture, Repair, Reinforce and Reset for Cars, Trucks, 4WD and Semi Trailer Springs (http://www.westraliasprings.com.au)

I got mine from there for my cruser

Ask them for trade discount

laters

[MooseNav]

Ay Crack, congrats on the placing, top effort. Roy (Justo's mate) told me you'd had to take the big cat off the road, the pics of those springs are naaaaasty!!

How bad's the panel damage on the front? Has it crumpled the guards or anything?

[crack]

cheers zoltan on the link ill check em out. congratulations on coming third to!

moosenav yeh i took her off the road to fix it up been a few things ive wanted to do for a while now and now i got an excuse. yeh wast to bad panel damage the bull bar is the worst but i might get a tubebar made up now instead

jack

[crack]

well im now taking the engine out so i can start striping her and getting it ready to paint. who would have thought trying to get 3" roll bar made would be so hard! no one in town bends 3' tube. i managed to sort somthing out with an engineer for a carton then i just gotta weld thew bends to the rest of the tube which is a pita but what do u do.

[crack]

engine is out! and ive choosen my paint colour. mate happened to have a few litres of the colour i wanted so i got it nice and cheap. just an acrylic gun metal then with 2pac clear coat. will post up pics of the car that has the same colour and a few of mine with the engine out.

[patrol4500]

Nice Lux Mate, good job so far. Look forward to seeing the finished product.

Cheers, Dan.

[ferremit]

my ARB dakar springs have done the same thing on my LN106- its to do with the way theyre bolted down, not failiure of the springs.

My factory springs looked the same before i removed em too.

[crack]

ferremit how has it got to do with the way they are bolted down? do you mean the ubolts? if so i dont see how thats got anything to do with it. they are bent not fanned. never had a problem with old springs doing this. if ya could explain what ya saying that would be great. guys at 4wd shop here are a bit stumped to.

jack

[ferremit]

if your spring perch isnt 100% flat- and most arent, you get a slight high point centred where the spring bolt is.

When you pull your U bolts down tight- they form a wave in the spring, due to there being another hinge point between em.

Well thats what ARB told me anyway!

[Malua]

u sure your painting an acrylic base with a 2pac clear?

[crack]

malua dosnt look like i will be anymore. just been advised not to do that. might go acryllic basecoast and acrylic clear coat?

ferremit if thats the case why does on one spring do it? ive had quiet a few people point it out so it definatly isnt normal.

[Malua]

well acrylic never really dries, it stays somewhat soft so if u paint 2pac clear over it it will react badly. so yeah acrylic base an clear is good if your painting in your garage or whatever cos its really easy to buff up to a good shine in the areas u may mess up.

[crack]

ive got an apprentice spraypainter doing me ute hes used the say paints on me mates car, he rekons the 2pac with it works well. ill be having atalk to him this weekend. if hes confident i might just do it all in 2pac. some people say all acrylic and others are saying go 2pac. ah the decisons

[Malua]

acrylic is cheap an easy to work with, but 2pac is the only way to go, much better finish more durable an will pay off in the long hall. No respectable panel shops use acrylic. If u have someone painting who knows how to paint, there is no 2 ways about it mate. 2pac the whole thing, being a solid u can jut use 22line neway which doesnt require a clear coat.

[crack]

cheers malua ive taken everyones advice and spoken to another painter and im going 2pac. wats this 22line? more expensive then normal 2pac?

big thanx to loadtech hydrolics albany for fixing up me power steering line for free, saved me $300 odd buying new ones!

jack

[slim89]

u sure your painting an acrylic base with a 2pac clear?

I have done this before, i done it for a higher gloss that the 2pac clear gives off without being cut back and it harder wearing still got the fuel tank and looks great to this day.

[crack]

any pictures?

[crack]

well heres a couple progress pics and one of what shes roughly gonna look like at the end hopefully. pulled the rear diff apart so i can start trying to put this detroit ez locker in.

photochop
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/lux-1.jpg


rear diff center
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0007.jpg

engine on the stand and front of my ute, with engine out the springs are acually sitting decent. (not inverted) so its not far of from looking like the lift its suposed to have.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0003.jpg

anyone got anytips on how to check the backlash and things on diff before i pull it apart?

[crack]

well went and spoke to bloke at auto one and he rekons it will be cheaper for me to take my diff center to my mechanic and get the locker fitted then to buy a dial guage so thats what im gonna do. gonna get em to take my axles off the drum assembly so tehy can replace wheel bearing and overhaul the drums.

[spanna chucka]

I have heard the the torque bar can cause sagging of the drivers side front spring pack but yours is a longer adjustable item so it can't be the cause, interesting and disturbing to find out what happened to your spring pack :confused:

[THE RIG]

should look good in that colour jack,whens it being painted?

[crack]

yeh i hope it does look good! not sure whens its getting painted but hopefully not to dar away. locker is now getting put into the rear diff :)

yeh zane ive had all that sort of stuff checked by a reputable 4x4 store in perth. i havnt heard back from the company who makes the springs and have my doubts as to if i will at all.

[crack]

well few of my plans have changed. im now leaving it white will be resprayed white and rut taken out hopefully before the years done. should be picking up rear diff tomorrow. tomorrowim ordering a new gearbox crossmember off snake racing notsure wether to go the low profile one or the racing one. then get the gearbox back in then engine and then a new radiator and then ill start the rear tray. still havbnt got my springs sorted out yet.

[crack]

well didnt pick up diff the bearing is gone on it so gotta wait for new one to arrive. got glow plug sorted finally and rear gearbox crossmember out. so im hunting for a second hand one till i can afford a new snake one as i now need a new radiator. also bought some gauge holders off ebay so they shoulkd be here soon. dunno how good they will be. got bloke to build my tray sorted to so shes starting to roll along. engne should be in next weekend! and running the week after! cant wait im going insane without it

[Farva]

oi jack....... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

[Farva]

nah i rekon we'll get it smashed out by this weekend if all goes to plan!

[crack]

yeh should get engine all done but i doubt ill have both diffs back. hopefully get rear one tomorrow.

turns out my rear diff is an lsd so the locker dosnt fit so the carriers are being swaped. the lsd is going in the front and the detroit in the rear. also he front swivel hub was full of water so thats getting all cleaned out and bearing replaced and new seals so shes getting more expensive by the minute. ill get some pics of the progress ova the weekend.

[crack]

well engine is back in and so is the rear diff. but front isnt ready yet. just gotta get two new bolts for gearbox toimorrow then the turbo can go back on and all the cooling system in and then with any luck she will fire up! well heres a couple pics from friday night.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0011.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0012-1.jpg

and one of my now kinked front spring.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0008-1.jpg

[Celt's]

Hope it all goes back together with no dramas Crack!;)

[Farva]

.....what a c*nt of a job that was

[crack]

hahah yeh was a bit of a mission! yeh celtlux theres been a few little things. bolted turbo bck up today to. with anyluck she will be running wednesday!! then just gotta wait for front diff

[Farva]

wednesday eh. so i get free feed again hey?

[rooey123]

looking good dude. pity bout not getting the engine bay repainted. but if i was without my car for a few months id be getting itchy feet as well.

be down in 2 weeks, hopefully we can go for a fourby.

[crack]

hey darron im heading up on the 25th for two weeks for tafe. well engine is done she turns over just gotta get the fuel through now which is being a pita. well diff will definatly be ready on monday with new rotors, seals, bearing and the lsd in the front. so that will be going in saturday next week as im working away next week....perfect timing yet again. and i pick up my extended rear brake line tomorrow.

while im in perth gonna try sort out the suspension side of things!

[crack]

well nothing is going my way! retaped the thread for one diff bolt and things went to well. bolt went in and just as it started to tighten it stripped all the thread on the bolt and in the hole. and im away next week so i gotta try n get mates to finish it for me. also shes not starting now. everyuthing is pluged in and triple checked and working but no power to the glow plugs. started it last night on quickstart butr cant get it to now. and now battery is flat and i have no charger.

ive spent 6hrs on it today and have acheived nothing. im ready to tow it to the tip!!

[Celt's]

Keep plugin away Crack you'll get there mate, hopefully it is only something small that has been overlooked causing the drama, & bad luck about the diff bolt. Fingers crossed it will work itself out soon enough for you.;)

[crack]

well mates put me front diff in while i was away working thanx guys! ute is now at mechanics and they are sorting out the glow plug problem and the rear diff and just double checking everything before i head to perth. also i found my spare wheel dosnt fit the front as the rim hits the calipers. so new rim today to.

things that got done.
detroit rear
lsd front
new front disks and pads
swivel hub seals
both sets of wheel bearing
rear diff bearing
engine oil leaks fixed (i think)
new glowplugs.
radiator
power steering
extended rear brake line

next is
sort suspension out
rear brakes
front unis
new injectors or nozzles
custom tray
intercooler

[boof]

Any reason why you went LSD front and detroit rear?? I would have gone the other way is all.

[crack]

i went this way because i thought it would be to hard to steer with the detroit locker in the front. and i though the lsd would work in the front becaus eit wouldnt be as hard to steer as the detroit? well that was my understanding.

rear diff is sorted. took out front driveshaft today as its stuffed so that will be ready when i get back. got engine started, worked out what the problem was. injection timing is to adavanced so tomorrow we are pulling the timingcase off and setting it right then hopefull all will be well!

[boof]

Fair enough I will be interested to hear your feedback, do you have power steer??

[crack]

yeh boof i got power steering. well shes running sweet now! loving having me ute back! rear locker isnt unlocking so its making turning interesting. will have to wait and see how front diff goes when i get my front driveshaft back.

[crack]

well im gonna have to start calling my ute "the domino effect" fix one thing then the next breaks. altenator is stuffed. so i got one from wreckers didnt check to see if the power plug was the same. so im gonna get one of those power packs to get me outta the poo for a couple days till i get to perth and get another altenator.

diff seems to want to unlock but only when i accelerate round the corner. bloke at wreckers thinks that i may need some weight in my tray to help them unlock. anyone heard of this?

jack

[boof]

well im gonna have to start calling my ute "the domino effect" fix one thing then the next breaks. altenator is stuffed. so i got one from wreckers didnt check to see if the power plug was the same. so im gonna get one of those power packs to get me outta the poo for a couple days till i get to perth and get another altenator.

diff seems to want to unlock but only when i accelerate round the corner. bloke at wreckers thinks that i may need some weight in my tray to help them unlock. anyone heard of this?

jack

To be honest no I havent heard of it, I would say it has been installed incorrectly, be careful you dont stress anything. To test it jack the wheels up and hold one wheel you should be able to turn the other and you should hear clicking as it disconnects. I would say the springs are in wrong, or the locker is faulty.

[Gojeep]

The most common setup is to go LSD front and Locker rear. I have that setup and it works very well. Have the Detroit Tru-Trac front and Detroit No Spin rear.

[crack]

boof been talking to someone off perth4x4 and he rekons his detroit is the same. ill see how it goes. if it dies then i guess its time for gu diff's under her!
got altenator sorted to by the looks of it. all my dash lights are now working properly just waiting for battery to charge up before i test her out

[boof]

boof been talking to someone off perth4x4 and he rekons his detroit is the same. ill see how it goes. if it dies then i guess its time for gu diff's under her!
got altenator sorted to by the looks of it. all my dash lights are now working properly just waiting for battery to charge up before i test her out


Geez mate no offence but if so what a waste of time. My cheap Lokka in the front doesnt do that nor does my mates lockrights, front and rear. I wouldnt be excepting it I would take it back and try one of the other brands ads it doesnt sound right to me.:o :confused:

[crack]

yeh boof after driving it in the wet i think its quiet dangerous so ill be seeing my mechanic and asking a few 4wdshops what they think. but it definatly is an improvment over the lsd offroad!

[DesertCruiser]

When ya put ya diff extention breathers on, you should put one of those little plastic fuel filters on the end, conect into the top so it breathes from the bottom. stops any moisture getting down the line. Maybee you already did it! Just a thought.

[crack]

yeh ive allready done that desert cruiser. was my first mod i think. spoke to my mechanic he reckons his detroit did that in his torrana but mine not nearly as bad. spoke to springwork joint down here and they gonna do me a temporary fix till i get my new suspension. bloody cars!!

[crack]

well i spoke to a bloke from lockeddrive and he reccomends the detroit goes in the front as they are a harsh and resonably cheap locker. also the front lsd is working better then expected apprantly. so now its just a matter of time and probably money as to when i swap them over. pain in the ass as i need to swap the carriers over to. looks like you were right boof

as far as my suspension goes think im gonna run parabolics in the front and ifs leaf springs in the rear. shocks are either gonan be the blisteen, gabrial truck shocks or toughdog 35mm adjustables. also running my snakeracing extended shackles. with any luck front springs will be in next week.

[boof]

well i spoke to a bloke from lockeddrive and he reccomends the detroit goes in the front as they are a harsh and resonably cheap locker. also the front lsd is working better then expected apprantly. so now its just a matter of time and probably money as to when i swap them over. pain in the ass as i need to swap the carriers over to. looks like you were right boof

as far as my suspension goes think im gonna run parabolics in the front and ifs leaf springs in the rear. shocks are either gonan be the blisteen, gabrial truck shocks or toughdog 35mm adjustables. also running my snakeracing extended shackles. with any luck front springs will be in next week.

Unless you have a hi-pinion front you should be able to just swap the centres straight over shouldnt take more than a few hrs. pita though so its a shame it didnt work :(

[crack]

mechanic rekons he had to swap the carriers ova as the detroit didnt fit in the lsd carrier so i had to take the front out. might just leave it in until after xmas and i have another car. dont wanna have me ute off the road agian for to long. haha ive said a couple hpours to do stuff and its turned into a few days.

[crack]

well been chatting to chris from locktup 4x4 and im planning on getting 3" front and rear lift kit, that come with everything including high steer crossover steering. guys so far have been great to deal with!

Locktup 4x4 International (http://www.locktup4x4.com.au/Default.aspx)

[boof]

Top work mate should make a big difference.

[crack]

cheers boof i hope so i think it will. just gotta sort my diffs out. its not to bad if i accelerate through tthe corner. but im looking at putting in the ifs hub spacer in the front and i wanna do sumthing with the rear so ill prolly sort it out when i do that.

[boof]

Give me a call re the diffs I think your mechanic is arse about. You shouldnt need to remove either the LSD or the detroit all you have to do is take the whole centre from the rear and fit it to the front and take the whole centre from the front and fit to the rear. Hilux front and rear diffs are interchangable, so there is no need to pull either of the centres apart.

[crack]

ah if thats the case it should be easy fix. thinking about it i dont see why that wouldnt work. i know to get the detroit in the rear he had to take the carrier out of the front to fit it. coz the rear used to be lsd, so the locker didnt fit in the carrier. but he didnt relise the lsd would work so well after the new clutch pack went in.

how hard is it to pull the front diff out? i knwo the rear is easy because ive done it twice now. but havnt done a front diff yet.

[boof]

Front is a bit harder but not much.

[crack]

just got to take the free wheeling hubs out. swivel hubs can stay on cant they?

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

Do you know exactly WHAT Detroit it is you have in the rear? If it's the Detroit Soflocker, it isn't a cheap diff, and it should work better than it sounds like it is!! But if it's an EZ Locker, then it is effectively the same as the Lokka, and are a cheap and harsh version, they probly are better off up front, as they resist unlocking when under load, you really hafta work it to make it disengage in a Lux rear with no load!!

But the SofLocker should be fairly easy, and if it isn't then you need to check the installation. They are pretty finnicky about set-up, you need to make sure backlash and pinion pre-load is within std specs for the lux, preferably at the 'lesser' end of the scale, the more backlash, the harder and harsher they feel! You certainly shouldn't have any difficulties with the Soflocker disengaging without a load in the rear if it's all set up right!

Geez, I know people who've got them in the rear of their Hilux's and they collected the car after fitting it and drove off, coming back more than 20 minutes later to say, "we haven't been off the bitumen, but we were expecting all sorts of things with the locker fitted, we can't feel anything different, you sure you fitted it??" They were only convinced when they were shown the OE diff centre in the rear of their tray! But that was fitted by a guy who is pretty much a magic handed diff guru when it comes to backlash and pinion pre-load etc!! He can make them all as smoooothh as duck sh!t

And like boof says, I thought the front and rear diffs were interchangeable? Should be no need to do anything apart from take the centre assy out of the rear and swap it into the front and vice versa!

Cheers!

[crack]

yeh peter its a detroit ez locker. i spoke to clause from lockedrive and he said it sounds a bit to harsh. he reccomended i put it in the front as well. my mech has only done one of these once before so maybe he dosnt know what hes doing. and bloke from wreckers said what you said peter about no load in the rear.

how would the steering be with the detroit in the rear?

[boof]

Do you know exactly WHAT Detroit it is you have in the rear? If it's the Detroit Soflocker, it isn't a cheap diff, and it should work better than it sounds like it is!! But if it's an EZ Locker, then it is effectively the same as the Lokka, and are a cheap and harsh version, they probly are better off up front, as they resist unlocking when under load, you really hafta work it to make it disengage in a Lux rear with no load!!

But the SofLocker should be fairly easy, and if it isn't then you need to check the installation. They are pretty finnicky about set-up, you need to make sure backlash and pinion pre-load is within std specs for the lux, preferably at the 'lesser' end of the scale, the more backlash, the harder and harsher they feel! You certainly shouldn't have any difficulties with the Soflocker disengaging without a load in the rear if it's all set up right!

Geez, I know people who've got them in the rear of their Hilux's and they collected the car after fitting it and drove off, coming back more than 20 minutes later to say, "we haven't been off the bitumen, but we were expecting all sorts of things with the locker fitted, we can't feel anything different, you sure you fitted it??" They were only convinced when they were shown the OE diff centre in the rear of their tray! But that was fitted by a guy who is pretty much a magic handed diff guru when it comes to backlash and pinion pre-load etc!! He can make them all as smoooothh as duck sh!t

And like boof says, I thought the front and rear diffs were interchangeable? Should be no need to do anything apart from take the centre assy out of the rear and swap it into the front and vice versa!

Cheers!

You always put a smile on my face Pete its good to see someone passionate abouta product.

yeh peter its a detroit ez locker. i spoke to clause from lockedrive and he said it sounds a bit to harsh. he reccomended i put it in the front as well. my mech has only done one of these once before so maybe he dosnt know what hes doing. and bloke from wreckers said what you said peter about no load in the rear.

how would the steering be with the detroit in the rear?

Put it in the front and you will wonder why you didnt before. If you have problems sell it off and buy a 4wd systems lokka I have installed heaps of these in the back yard and never had a drama, so if the detroits are that much hassle to install its just another reason not to waste your time with it. Personally I think the Detroits are an overrated pos (and yes I have had the displeasure of driving two vehicles with the almighty softlocker :D) but to each their own.

[Offroad Gear]

With the EZ locker in the rear you are better to run with A Thicker oil 85/140 and the amount of free play on the brass shims at either side of the locker make it play up if they are to worn and out of spec making it do all sorts of weird stuff backlash is better set a .005" helps eleiminate bangs a little more.

The front and rear will interchange no problems at all.

I think there is some confusion with the lsd part because the ez wont fit in the lsd hemisphere that is why he used the front for the rear and put the lsd in front. If that is what he did and he hasnt changed the ring gear pattern then this will also cause a drama as the front gets set up diff to the rear and will now be running on the drive side of the tooth rather than coast as it was in the front.

Hope that made sense.

Dave

A EZ locker needs to be within spec a lot more than the 4wd system locker with regards to setup with the shims etc don't know why but they do lockrites seem better than the detroit less complaints in the US.

Make sure you adjust steering stops in the front to help stop exploding CV's when you fit the locker to the front wind them out approx 3mm front and rear both sides, makes steering a little larger but helps take load of CV at breaking point, this is even more so with the LSD rear than lockers front and rear once the rear gives up the front does all the work and BANG lol.

[crack]

i got it cheap. and i intended pretty much just to get it for the comp but didnt get it in, in time. i wanna get air lockers oneday. well now i gotta find some time to pull em out and swap them over.

will be putting in my ironman front springs that i got just for temporary fix till i get my new stuff. and gotta fix my timing cover. might try next weekend. shouldnt take me any longer then a weekend. i gotta allow myslef time as im a bit retarded when it comes to cars

[crack]

yep thats what happened dave. yeh im running that oil in the rear diff. so if this is the case it isnt a simple diff center swap?

[Offroad Gear]

Depends mate if he hasnt changed any of the patterns then it is a straight forward swap and all will run as normal if he did change them then what you will get is a little noise from the rear as it will be driving on the tooth different but it wont be that bad to break it, it will wear back in after time anyway.

just use the thick oil for the lsd aswell obviously lsd oil.

front will seem a little tighter on steering when bound up just dont hit it full noise to get out and cvs locker will be ok you may want to martack the inner axles on the front and remove the 1 clip to make cvs easier to change shud they go Bang.

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

The EZ Locker and the Lokka are so similar that if you didn't already know which was which you'd be hard pressed to tell!! And the same goes for their installations and the way they work! Because they use the same 'dog-clutch' style of operation, they work exactly the same way! So it won't make a great deal of difference (if any) between putting the EZ locker or any other Lokka in the front, they behave just the same, and they are Waaayy more harsh in their operation than a properly fitted Detroit Soflocker.

And Soflockers aren't hard to fit, they just need to be fitted properly, exactly the same as any other diff! You hafta make sure they are within spec. If you fit ANY diff without paying attention to backlash and pre-load, you will get harsher operation. And you'll wear out the diff much sooner than otherwise, simply because the teeth on the gears aren't meshing properly, nor driving smoothly as they spin. You can get away with a poor fitting for a while, but it WILL end up destroying the diff and probly do it in such a way that it'll take other bits of rear axle out with it too! Chunks of pinion teeth dropped into the gap alongside the cross piece are eventually going to grind! A lot of the Soflocker failures that I hear about and see are because othewise competent backyard mechanics try to fit them without using the correct gear or getting the fitting within the manufacturers specs, and what they end up with might work for a while, but it results in unsatisfactory behaviour and early failure. They'd probly have exactly the same problem and results if they did exactly the same thing with any other high end performance diff. But EZ lockers and Lokka's definitely don't rate that label!

So WHATEVER you fit, you will get a better result by getting it fitted by a professional who is good at their job. IF you happen to be able to fit the 'locking' components without moving the relationship between crownwheel and pinion, or the positioning and pre-load that results from the carrier bearings, (like you do with EZ Lockers and Lokkas) then you will probly get away with doing it yourself, anything that upsets or changes any of those relationships or settings will require the right gear and a practiced hand to get right, so leave those jobs to the pro's. And if your closest guy expresses concern about doing the task, listen to him! If he's worried about getting it right, ask if he'd prefer you to go elsewhere, and if he does, then do so!! Find someone at ease with the job and it's intricacies, it isn't rocket science but neither is it Lego or meccano bolt together simple!

So crack, I'd be looking at moving your EZ Locker (or a Lokka) to the front diff, they won't impact anywhere near as much on daily driving fitted there! If you want something that's going to work and not interfere with your daily driving, but you want the benefit of a locker all the time; the only way to do that is to get a Soflocker fitted properly to the rear. And they cost more than the cheaper options - for very good reason! But you've already got the EZ Locker, it will work well up front, just not as smoothly as a Soflocker. Don't be fooled into thinking that a Lokka will be any better, in fact the EZ Locker works exactly like the Lokka, they are that close to identical!

And I'm sorry that you've had a bad run with Soflockers boof, but were any of them fitted professionally by someone who is au fait with getting the backlash, pinion pre-load, and finer points of fitting a diff to Manufacturers specs? If they were, and they were still harsh and aggressive in their operation, you should have taken them back, just like any other performance locker that failed to behave in its advertised manner. I've been sprung once, by accepting a rear pinion seal and bearing replacement from a fella who didn't set the pre-load properly, and it started the misbehaving almost straight away. I didn't chase it immediately, cos the guy who did the job was remote, and I didn't get back out that way straight away. But after the diff failed and I took the worn and broken bits back for him to see, he refunded my money and contributed to the repair of the damage that resulted from his failure to do the job correctly! It was easy enough to see that the pinion pre-load wasn't right, the pinion teeth didn't mesh with the crownwheel at all properly, and it took less than 20,000km to start breaking off the corners of gear teeth! Hopefully I'll be alert enough not to get sprung again, but once in more than a couple of million kms with Detroit Lockers isn't too bad!! And btw, more than one million of those kms have been on the one Detroit Soflocker fitted in the rear that outlasted the cars it drove and it got passed from diff to diff! Not even like grandads axe, it's STILL exactly the same diff! And still runs smoother than a Nissan LSD and takes the car a helluva lot further!

Cheers!

[crack]

Depends mate if he hasnt changed any of the patterns then it is a straight forward swap and all will run as normal if he did change them then what you will get is a little noise from the rear as it will be driving on the tooth different but it wont be that bad to break it, it will wear back in after time anyway.

just use the thick oil for the lsd aswell obviously lsd oil.

front will seem a little tighter on steering when bound up just dont hit it full noise to get out and cvs locker will be ok you may want to martack the inner axles on the front and remove the 1 clip to make cvs easier to change shud they go Bang.

what do you mean by "martack"? i probably need to break a cv, havnt done one yet. will go and see my mech next week and ask him wat the backlash was and if he changed the ring gear pattern

once again peter you really are a world of knowledge

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

A lot of Lokka's and EZ Lockers are intended to be fitted without taking the diff centre out of the carrier, and if he did that, he shouldn't have changed the backlash at all! BUT, I think boof said something about this before! I haven't had too much to do with fitting Lokka's or EZ Lockers into Hilux's, can you do it that way boof? Without taking it out of the carrier?? Leaving the crown wheel and pinion fitted together the whole time, or do you hafta seperate them out entirely?!

And like Dave says, you'll only get the gears running slightly differently IF he took them apart. As long as the depth of the meshing hasn't changed, then they should have no more issues than a slight noise as they fun on the backside of the tooth, but if you change the way the teeth mesh, and alter WHERE on the tooth the mesh point is, then you run into issues!! Has he done that? You'd hafta ask!

My little problem had the crownwheel teeth sharpened to a point on one end, all in less than 20,000 km (admittedly hard work, but still not a heap!) the pinio teeth were just not meshing fully enough to put the wear point in the middle of the crownwheel teeth, and that can be a worry! It was!

Good Luck!


BTW, you don't really need to break a CV crack, you can get the same feeling by just pulling out one front axle and driving around like that for a week, mae sure you do some 4 wheeling as well. Oh, and I'll send you a busted CV, so you can dabble in the grey goopy grease trying to clean it all out without spearing any tiny slivers of steel under your finger nails or ripping your hand open on the razor sharp shards of metal that remain from the cage! You really don't need to add the stress of having it self destruct on the track somewhere, especially if its getting late and you gotta be back at work tomorrow for that special meeting about wether your job continues and it'll take at least 2 days to walk back to where you can catch a train!

[crack]

thanx peter! will find out monday with any luck it will be a straight swap.

cheers

[Gojeep]

I run a Detroit Soft locker rear and the detroit Tru-Trac front and have no problems with it what so ever. You would not know it was there on the street so they can be setup correctly. I took a lot of time to get it exactly within specs which is more than I can say with some others I have had to work on that were fitted by so called diff experts here.

[MooseNav]

Maaaate! Haven't been on here in a while and was starting to wonder why I hadn't seen you around town!! Who's your mech by the way??

Keep on it mate, she'll be worth it in the end, at least I hope so for your sanity's sake!!

[crack]

promotion. damm right it will be worth it in the end! i hope haha

[crack]

well went 4wding for the first time yesterday nothing much just a bit of beach work, lil bit of rock crawling. think my cv is stuffed. it clicking when i turn in 4wd and think my tailshaft is stuffed again or its just the center bearing. but so far it was awsome offroad.

[Tower]

good to see most things are working out for ya mate, when do we get some action shots

[crack]

hopefully this week heading out again. might havwe some from yesterday but i i spent most tha day pulling me mates out :)

[Corindi]

Sorry to hijack your thread, but this may be relevant to you.
Not so long ago I was discussing reversing up hills and a few people got on and said ÿour diffs weren't designed to take that sorta load in reverse because of the way the gears are cut. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you swap the centres aren't they going to be running the opposite direction? driving foreward the rear diff drives towars the pinion and the front drives away from it......swap them and you are effectively driving them backwards, aren't you?

[crack]

first ive heard of that. i could understand it if you ment the gearbox

[Celt's]

Good news to hear you got it going & out for a wheel crack;)

[crack]

should have some photos up by end of weekend from new years nothing serious. more just beach stuff.

anyway does around $500 sound allright for a rear ifs diff housing and axles and brake lines? that a rough price that wreckers have given me.

looking at putting an ifs rear diff housing in as its got a wider track to help with stablity and also they have bigger drum brakes as far as im aware. then running wheel spacers in the front to match the rear.

[crack]

bumped into someone whos done about 4 lexus conversion and hes got another two projects at home. got talking to him and rekons he will help me out when the time comes. will be checking out his extracab lux running 37"s and the lexus and a 2wd lux with lexus and supercharger straped on the side.

if i get another car this year may look at starting this conversion and possibly going the supercharger route for more torque. will get some pics when i go have a look at his 2 projects. probably wont start the conversion until i can find a decent space cab body.

[crack]

well got yellow stickered today for extended shackles, cracked windscreen and no horn...moral of the story dont speed. got let off for speeding tho. so shes going over the pits next week so shes going back to standard just about and a good degrease. will leave standard shackles on untill i get my new trail gear stuff! bit of a bummer but these things happen. when i get trail gear stuff i miight get it aqll engineered.

[Celt's]

Bad luck mate, getting it all engineered will give you some piece of mind.

[crack]

well blown my transfer case now to. so no 4wd gears and no reverse yay! is it worth replacing the low range gears with some crawler gears while its out?

[Z()LTAN]

unless your looking at bigger rubber and rock crawling i wouldnt bother

[boof]

Yep replace it with crawlers seeing as you are getting the trail gear kit anyway get it in the same delivery and save some cash. ;)

[Celt's]

Crawlers would come in handy during comps surely:D

[crack]

well i want to run 35's offroad so crawlers might be a good idea. yeh i might do that gary, just get my reverse fixed and worry bout the transfer lil bit later when i got some coin. i think just getting my gearbox fixed is gonna cut into my suspension money a fair bit! take it to mechanics tomorrow see what he says probably just put it on my bill i probably wont get till mid year anyway because hes lazy with paperwork

[crack]

heres a couple pics. dosnt do it any justice. the longer it sat there the worse it got

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0003-1.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0001-1.jpg

[neonasty]

Oh mumma, thats really stuck isnt it?

Looks like a lot of fun though.

[Celt's]

Sticky!!!

[Z()LTAN]

where is that crack... ive never seen that place b4

[crack]

zoltan thats down here in albany. well gonna try and get reverse fixed so it drivable.

but ive just bought a new car today so ive got sumthing to drive. its a 93 eb xr6 goes like a shower of s#*t. had about 9k spent on it and i got it for mates rates! so im just waiting for some money to come through from governmnet and ill get my ute done and just have it for weekends

[killalux]

Geez thats really stuck, bugger about the breakages

[crack]

well my mech looked at it rekons its just reverse gear and some teeth have come off it in the transfer case so that why it sounds so crap.

picked up my new ride today :) its awsome. will post a couple pics up tomorrow once ive given it a clean.

[moneypit4runner]

Crack,

Go the dual transfers. Gives you the best of all worlds

[SJCHilux]

Man that the lux nearlly disappeared !!!!! in that bog !

[crack]

well heres a couple pics of my new ride. 93 eb xr6. got pod filter, extractors, 21/4" exhust, custom intake plenium and a few other bits and peices. got a set of aftermarket cams to put on if i want and a oil cooler which ill probably bust on tha lux.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0001-2.jpg

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSCF0003-2.jpg

and one from our new years camp

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/100_1206.jpg

[patrol4500]

Nice EB you have there Crack, i had a wagon the same colour which was a Falcon S, Bloody great car I'll see if i can dig up a pic of it, had alot of trouble with the head and head gasket though keep an eye on that.

Cheers Dan.

[crack]

well finally picked utw up from pits. after telling them not to use reverese they used it and now its completly stuck. so that involved pulling tail shaftr out and towing it home. took it on the chin as i didnt want to getr up his nose about so he would be an ass to me next time im in.

well heres the list.

-rego papers
-blown park light
-plate light
-replace windscreen (organised)
-permit requiered for suspension lift kit. (drop old shackles on)
-free rear diff to be able to turn corners with out skipping (swapping front with rear)
-remove exessive free travel from footbrake
-hand brake to be efficient (scince when do lux handbrakes work?)
-reverse gear to be repaired


not to bad really considering half the stuff they havnt done me for they could have. i have 2 weeks if not finished by then i get another extention and $80 odd dollars poorer

[Tower]

sorry mate but how/and what did you get done for in the first place?

[crack]

got picked up for speeding then they went over my car. got done for extended shackles, cracked windscreen and no horn. got let of speeding but

[rooey123]

cant believe im saying this but the falcon looks good man...
do you rekon u will have it on the road in 2 weeks?

[crack]

umm dont know darron. i got a two week extension but im away next week. so doing a few little things today before i go, and the rest is getting done week after next down at promotion.

what you got planned in two weeks? you coming down?

[MUDRATGQ]

Defently need the 35's Crack ya were well an truly stuck mate unlucky on the blueie to mate just fitted my new ARB bar yesterday an nearly got a bluie for it last night for not having me No plate bolted on an me lightforces sitting to far forward was waiting for this morn so i could get some staino bolts what cracks me up is they didn't even bother me about the lift an 35's lol hope ya get ya box fixed ok mate it's starting to look good

[Farva]

shut up darron! stay in perth, your poor little jeep might get scratched on the main roads on the drive down here. dont wanna have a wil cwy do we?

[Farva]

dude bring ya remote control car down as well ( i dont mean your jeep) we'll thrash it round some more. hahahaha still cant believe it took you 3 hours to put the antenna on.

[crack]

yeh mudrat cops are strange like that. they didnt do me for half the stuff they could have. bit harsh with the spotties mine only sit forward about an inch dont see how some light plastic sticking out an inch is gonna do any damage?

yeh 35's are definatly on the cards just gonna get running first and then get the suspension and tray sorted out. then 35's

haha adam leave darron alone you bully.

[Farva]

you should add yellowd to your signature jack:thumb:

[rooey123]

yeh dude ill be down on the 11th for a week. hopefully u got it going by then. need to get my car dirty

[rooey123]

shut up darron! stay in perth, your poor little jeep might get scratched on the main roads on the drive down here. dont wanna have a wil cwy do we?

yeh cant lie its all nicely polished at the moment,lol. but hey you seen it in action, you know its kicks the s**t outta ur farm ute...

yeh ill be bringing my other car down as well. its broken but ill get it fixed. when are you coming up exactly adam?

[Farva]

yeh cant lie its all nicely polished at the moment,lol. but hey you seen it in action, you know its kicks the s**t outta ur farm ute...

yeh ill be bringing my other car down as well. its broken but ill get it fixed. when are you coming up exactly adam?

may be a "farm ute" darron but atleast it not remote control car with the most flex on it being the spring that holds your aireal on!!!

oh yeh sweet, haha what you do to it? ill be in perth on the 12th, going to busso for the weekend with the missus first. so ill be keen on the weekend after that to go out and watch you cry from getting your matchbox car scratched up:D

[crack]

whats ya other car darron? i doubt it will be running. i got ute going in tomorrow getting lsd put in the rear and the detroit going in the front. reverse gear is being done also and the brakes. so hopefully get that done by friday when it goes over the pits then ill need another extension to get window and shackles done

[Farva]

whats ya other car darron?

his remote control one dude

[rooey123]

yeh my remote control car.

i think ill be coming back on the 15th or 16th. got a v8 supercar drive day on the sunday so i gotta be back for that

[crack]

gearbox is out. transfer case is fine its the gearbox that is stuffed. reverse and i think the syncro gear (rod that has a few gears on it that are part of the rod so non replacable) so hes getting a few prices on 2nd hand box's and parts to see whats going to be cheaper

[crack]

well got a letter saying my ute has now epired the defect notice. says go over the puits by 9th or march or hand plates. and thats it. dosnt explain what happens if i dont or how i get them back does anyone know? theres no way ill be able to get ute to go over pits with a weeks notice as they usually have a 2week waiting period as they so busy. can anyone shed some light?

cheers
jack

[hilux_bondy_007]

If u dont go over pits u will have just to reregester it once itrs all done. thats wat i see it meaning. call transport.

[crack]

yeh i will do thought id ask here first. well $900 for replacment parts plus labour as theres no second hand bits in town so mechanic is ringing around perth to try and find a good 2nd box. gonna make a start on diffs next week myself to savce on money and get it done quicker.

[pinkfloyddsotm]

yeh i will do thought id ask here first. well $900 for replacment parts plus labour as theres no second hand bits in town so mechanic is ringing around perth to try and find a good 2nd box. gonna make a start on diffs next week myself to savce on money and get it done quicker.
hey mate, were you the guy that was out secret harbour the other night ?

[crack]

nope wasnt me. im from albany. my ute hasnt been driven in 2mths so definatly wasnt me

[pinkfloyddsotm]

nope wasnt me. im from albany. my ute hasnt been driven in 2mths so definatly wasnt me
oh ok,cause their was other young guy ,who ****ed his gearbox ,same hilux as you, wranglers,253 chev turboed,then im on here last night and i see you're gearbox is rooted so i thought it was you or something haha.

[crack]

no chev motor here. one day there will be a v8 under her or if i write off the xr6 that motor will probably go under the bonnet.

may have found a wreck through a mates old man so hes gonna check if the gearbox etc is still in it if so then the box is mine.

[pinkfloyddsotm]

oh ,i thought i read somewhere you were getting a V8 in her, my bad.
yea my transfer case is leaking pretty bad,so their gonna take it apart n shit ,work their magic on it .

[crack]

ah yep. yeh one day she will get a v8 but atm thats mney i dont have.

[mylesy]

Hey man, i like your wheel and rim setup, how much did you pay for your rims??

[crack]

rims are csa magnum's 15x10's paid $250 a rim. the tyres are bfg mud terrains in a 33x12.5 tyre they were around $350 a tyre fitted

[crack]

well thought its about time for a bit of an update. new gearbox is bolted in and ready to rock and roll. this week the diffs are being swaped around and new rear brakes with oversized shoes. then new windscreen next week
and hopefully over pits end of next week.

also serioulsy on the cards is the lexus v8. trail gear front and rear suspension kits at tax time, custom tray and ifs hub kit for front and rear diff from ifs lux to give her a winder stance.

[Prado-man]

Hey m8 unlucky with the gear box, wat made u decide to go down casey's, ive prob seen bout 4 cars stuck in dat same spot in the last 6 months, i just walk down now;).
I blew my auto recently to so i kind of kno wat ur going through, mines costing 1700 to fix but. Done down bornholm bout month ago, getn back on the road dis week but so all gud:thumb:

Good luck with urs
Clint

[crack]

whoa another albany bloke! haha wat can i say mate young and dumb! or i just like a challenge! i did walk it and it was dry on top, but i spose my mere 65kg isnt a good comparison to a 2t ute

[Prado-man]

Yea it's a bit like dat, i was warned b4 by my m8 in his 80 series, he only jst got out and mine's not as capable as his...YET:D

Went camping out there late last year and spent till 3 in the morning gettn to ppl out, ended up being bout ten cars, 6 spares 11 snatchys, haha what a laugh glad it wasn't my car.
All gud fun but, breaking stuff is jst part of it i spose.

[Texas]

Gday crack, just sent a pm re some pics.
Thanks
Tony

[crack]

geezn wat a mission! i was only ther for 6hrs. burnt out a few batteries for winch and my hands from digging :) funny tough looking at it and going what the hell. mate lived close if we needed a tractor.

[crack]

well gearbox is in, diffs swaped eveything bolted up and oils in. tomorrow rebuilding rear brakes and front calipers. and hopefully both front cv's as one is gone but not sure which opne so ill just do both. hoepffully get windscreen in this week then shackles monday and hopefully i can get it over pits next week

[crack]

well windscreen is in and front and rear brakes rebuilt. new cv's left and right. new standard shackles monday maybe tomorrow (sat) all luittle things have been fixed like one busted numebr plate light and windscreen nozzle. due to go over pits wednesday, hopefully it passes as i want it for the long weekend!

[Nicko_Chippy]

goodluk with the roadworthy on wednesday crack, hope it passes

[THE RIG]

good luck with the pits jack,i know the feeling of will it pass will it pass,itd wanna f**king pass lol


tom

[Celt's]

Good luck with it Crack!:thumb:

[crack]

cheers guys. i really cant wait to have it back! its been soooo long

[rooey123]

sup dude. be good to see the old girl back on the road. will catch up for a beer this weekend ay

[crack]

yeh for sure u heading down? im going out to reef friday coming back sat some time. gonna give the bikes a good run out there. and ease the lux back into it. oh ran into adrian bloek with yellow jeep we gonna organise a trip or sumthing sometime probably up to brunswick.

[rooey123]

oh yeh hes a cool guy,id be up for a run down there

[crack]

ah yeh sweet. should put a pic up of how gay the lux looks at the moment haha.

[stets]

yeah do it mate i wanna see this

[crack]

haha ill post it up tommow with the good or bad news. and one of the bravo i put me 33's on haha had to keep it on axle stands so tyres would fit. they fit out about half a foot.

[Farva]

drop round work after you get ya lux man i wanna see how shite it looks hahaha. you gonna put the locker in the back and all the rest of it back on once you get the all clear?

darron whats the go for camping or whatever is there a plan in place yet?

[crack]

nope locker is staying in the front. will work better in the front then the rear. tyres will go on straight away im not sure about extended shackles yet.

well the short story is the pits stuffed up and didnt tell me all the paper work i needed and so my ute never went over the pits so short of blowing a fuse i booked it for tuesday and took my ute home. now im having a beer to calm me down haha.

[Z()LTAN]

awwww, youll get there buddy!

[crack]

well heres a couple pics of how she sits at the moment...pretty gay!

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSC00053.jpg

and one of the bravo looking cooler then mine :( couldnt let it sit on its own had to keep it on jacks to get those tyers to fit.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b19/crack121/DSC00055.jpg

[boof]

hehehe itll be worth it mate and the Bravo does look cool with those under it.