suprux - turbo arrived

[brokelux]

Hey all
Well this is my 4b
http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=453

I have owned it for about three years now and i recon it has been the worst three years of it's life.

First modifications i did were just the basic easy stuff
Diff Breathers
Snorkle
32inch mudders
Towbar
Towhooks

I was more than happy with these mods for about a year
Then i started heading down to southport and the poor old lux just wasn't keeping up the pace SO....

Winch
2inch body lift
2inch spring lift

Then off to southport again this time come home with blown
head gasket (22R) SO...

Supra engine conversion
Long Range fuel tank
http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=408
http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=480
while i had the engine out i made up some rubber guards to stops the mud from entering the engine bay. The old ones couldn't handle the pace anymore

Also had to top mount my intercooler (interheater) due to the lack of room up the front. which meant i had to put an awfull looking bonnet scoop on it.

Now a little bit better have plenty of power but never much traction.

Next on the list of modifications to be done in the next year
landcruiser diff
R151F gearbox
35 inch exteem treekers
shackle extension


And finally on the long term wish list
Lockers
Bead locks

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=465

[boof]

nice lux how do you find the supra motor off road for low down torque etc

[patute]

gday mate nice lookin rig ,and the wish list goes on and on . i know that feelin :)

[brokelux]

nice lux how do you find the supra motor off road for low down torque etc

has good low down tourque well lots better than the old engine anyway but you do have to be mindfull of the moment when that turbo kicks in

[boof]

it would be good to see it go a guy up here has one but its for street only no offroad so not easy to guage its ability i am tossing up between this motor and the v8 that twisty has

[brokelux]

probebly would go the V8 if you got the money for it i didn't so i couldn't but i woulda if i coulda if ya no what i mean

[boof]

wasnt aware the supra motor was cheaper that would keep the missus happy but yeh i thought the 8 might be better

that looks awesome man

what year is it ?

[brokelux]

supra motors are suprisingly cheap it cost me a lot more to put the engine in my car than the motor originally cost. and i did it all my self so its just parts that i'm talking about.

The engine came with bell housing electrics computer ect but i put an aftermarket computer in it anyway

[brokelux]

that looks awesome man

what year is it ?


1990 (RN105)

[taziiy]

looks good brokelux i have been considering engine swaps for a while now but the $$$$$$ means as long as the old one is going it stays there there are that many different ones its hard to choose

[brokelux]

Here is just anouther example of the nightmares you come across when doing these conversions. http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=481


The aftermarket computer i used didn't like the magnetic style cam sensor that these engines run so i had to make an opticle sensor out of a RB20 fit.

[brokelux]

looks good brokelux i have been considering engine swaps for a while now but the $$$$$$ means as long as the old one is going it stays there there are that many different ones its hard to choose

yep exactly the same situation i had so i drove it hard till it blew a head gasket ;D

[PJ.zook]

Taz that simply means you use the rev limiter to its full advantage so you can get new engine quicker.
If you need to convince the mrs or anything, just fill the engine with diesel engine oil and in no time it will be pluming enough smoke to put a Mitsubishi Colt to shame.

[taziiy]

i dont need to convince her it she said it can happen but not till this one dies (and yeah i could empty the oil out and drive till it goes but as i said at the moment $$$$$$$$$$ is the big thing if it dies now it will just sit in the front yard like a knome till the $$$$ come along at least i can still drive it ) so im just biteing my time it will happen one day

nice work, looking good

[simonsurf]

You should post a vid so we can hear it in full cry ;D

[brokelux]

You should post a vid so we can hear it in full cry ;D

how do ya do that???

[simonsurf]

You need to upload it to a server somewhere (your personal web space?) and then link to it from your post.

[brokelux]

thats all too hard for me but if someone can do it for me i might be able to find a video somewhere

[crankycruiser]

Hey looks good doug...... Wanna buy some pedes ;D

[Toyo_zuk]

Hey looks good doug...... Wanna buy some pedes ;D


she might need a little more then those shackle extensions :P

isn't that right Rocky.... sry i mean doug ;D ;D

[brokelux]

Just a quick pic of the lux on the dyno http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=482

[crankycruiser]

Wat figures u got out of her Doug???

[Twisty]

Cool Hilux, I thought about the Turbo Supra for a while, it's a really popular conversion in the states....but went with the V8 in the end, as having turbo/intercooler under the bonnet is just something else to go wrong, and you just can't beat the sounds of a V8.

Looks like a neat conversion though, and I'll be interested to see your dyno figures!!

[brokelux]

ok at the moment its only putting out 115KW but thats with a very very very basic tune its running way to rich at the moment i have to finish it off then get it back to the dyno i'm expecting 180 - 200 kw

[Reddo]

ok at the moment its only putting out 115KW but thats with a very very very basic tune its running way to rich at the moment i have to finish it off then get it back to the dyno i'm expecting 180 - 200 kw


LOL, i thought it went fast enough with only 115kw at the wheels, cant wait to see it with 180 + :o

[V8]

Wanna sell it. Just joking man that thing is cool. My bro was gonna drop a supra motor in his torana but his gonna get an 8 instead

[brokelux]

Wanna sell it. Just joking man that thing is cool. My bro was gonna drop a supra motor in his torana but his gonna get an 8 instead


sell it Na couldn't sell that many problems would feel guilty

[brokelux]

So i'm gunna have to buy anouther set of springs cause i broke the ones that are under it wadda u ppl recon 4 inch?
or 2inch with shackle extension?
wanna fit 35's under it

[crankycruiser]

So i'm gunna have to buy anouther set of springs cause i broke the ones that are under it wadda u ppl recon 4 inch?
or 2inch with shackle extension?
wanna fit 35's under it



If ya stick 4" springs unda it, it wont artic' and will be ruffer than it already is to ride around in....

Buy some longer springs move the spring mounts then u mught git some decent artic' and a bit of lift....

[fullberries]

how much did it cost for the supra conversion would like to do one did u have many problems or would the v6 com motor be better

[brokelux]

V6 ??? :o ::) NAA please dont swear on my thread :P
wouldn't want holden bits in my 4b thats asking for trouble
any way if ya wanna know approx cost to do the conversion MSN me when your on next. Wasn't that difficult really only took me 9 months :D ;)

[brokelux]

got the front brakes apart tonight put new seals through the calipers getting new discs soon.

also pulled the intercooler off had a small hole in it.

had a new p.s hose made as the other one was too short and blew out in no time

i'm going to pull the gearbox out to replace the clutch but im still looking for a transphere case to fit a r151f gearbox + tailshafts and crossmember for the conversion.

pulling the alternator off tomorrow its charging 16v but only 12v with the headlights on high beam >:( something to do with all the mud it has swallowed i recon

[GQtray]

Doug, did you have the long range tank when i saw the lux,dont remember seeing it. I am just about to put a second hilux tank into mine so i can carry a bit more fuel. Bloke should be dropping the tank off today, hopefully. Gunna have to move one of my air receivers to make it fit though.

[brokelux]

Doug, did you have the long range tank when i saw the lux,dont remember seeing it. I am just about to put a second hilux tank into mine so i can carry a bit more fuel. Bloke should be dropping the tank off today, hopefully. Gunna have to move one of my air receivers to make it fit though.


Naa didn't have the tank in it when i came to see you added that one bout a month later

good luck with the second tank sounds like an interesting project are you going to set up a fuel pump to pump fuel from your second tank to the first??? or straight to the motor??

[GQtray]

Doug, did you have the long range tank when i saw the lux,dont remember seeing it. I am just about to put a second hilux tank into mine so i can carry a bit more fuel. Bloke should be dropping the tank off today, hopefully. Gunna have to move one of my air receivers to make it fit though.


Naa didn't have the tank in it when i came to see you added that one bout a month later

good luck with the second tank sounds like an interesting project are you going to set up a fuel pump to pump fuel from your second tank to the first??? or straight to the motor??

Scrounged a camira (yes camira) electric fuel pump from a wreck up the bush behind my place, will use that as a transfer pump i reckon.

[brokelux]

k got the sparky onto my alternator lucky thats the same place i work eh

working now on putting cruiser diff into lux. (finally)
Thanks to HiluxV8 the diff housing is ready to go just looking for the right gearing at the moment

got my discs sorted
intercooler should be ready tomorrow

might have to slip a new clutch into the lux without doing the gearbox conversion at this stage $$$$ :'(

[brokelux]

picked up a diff today for minus crownwheel and pinion which is ok cause i have to buy aftermarket crownwheel and pinion any way

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=486

[brokelux]

also today i found what that horrible noise was last trip that sounded like the turbo was about to explod into peices
Must have mounted my oil cooler a bit close to the alternator pulley bummer >:( http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=487

Two objects cannot occupy the same space at the same time

[boof]

excuse my ignorance or lack of knowledge :-\ but why are putting a 40 diff into it are they stronger ???

[brokelux]

yeah heaps stronger i recon
have had heaps of problems with hilux diffs
hilux 8inch
cruiser 9 inch
cant keep rebuilding lux diffs forever so i'm gunna try the cruiser i recon its gotta be stronger

[GQtray]

picked up a diff today for minus crownwheel and pinion which is ok cause i have to buy aftermarket crownwheel and pinion any way

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=486

Hmm that housing looks familiar ???. ;D

[brokelux]

picked up a diff today for minus crownwheel and pinion which is ok cause i have to buy aftermarket crownwheel and pinion any way

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=486

Hmm that housing looks familiar ???. ;D


i recon it might u built the damn thing :D

[boof]

8) thanks for the info

[cpt-mud]

nice looking rig , a bit different but cool

[brokelux]

well i finally got back out to the shed today- 3 weeks after i planned to be out there!!!!

So i put the front end back together new discs caliper kits repacked the wheel bearings with high pressure grease - used on escavators ect. new discs pads and rotors

relocated the oil cooler after it had a argument with the alternator.

fitted and rerouted new p/s hose because the other one broke

The brakes are still really spongy and the clutch still slips so i'll check out the rear brakes tomorrow and maybe do the clutch next weekend

[brokelux]

So i went out to the shed to day to fit my new stereo!

Is this how ya do it LOL

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=503

So i went out to the shed to day to fit my new stereo!

Is this how ya do it LOL

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=503


wtf!!! :o :o :o glad it's you that has to get that back together!!!

[brokelux]

all that because i found one lousy burnt wire

[taziiy]

all that because i found one lousy burnt wire


i was just about to ask why you did that for but thats awnsered but was all that really worth one burnt wire

[brokelux]

yeah it was was an ongoing problem blowing fuses ect was only when i went to fit the new radio that i found this wire recon itl solve my probs i hope

[taziiy]

Yeah would want to hope so after all that

[brokelux]

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=504



Fixed

[crankycruiser]

So i went out to the shed to day to fit my new stereo!

Is this how ya do it LOL

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=503


BLOODY HELL Doug....

I've put a lot of steza's in cars but i have never had to go to that extreme to fit one :o

[timbocruiser]

someone got a bit carried away me thinks :D

[brokelux]

Me Carrried away NEVER ::)

[taziiy]

Fixed but does everything work the way it should ???

[brokelux]

hmm sort of replaced the wire but yet to work out why it burnt out in the first place aside from that everything works fine

[crankycruiser]

Me Carrried away NEVER ::)


Yeah.. u git carried away... pffffft ::)

[sampson]

mmmm riiiiiiiiigggggggghhhhhhhhhttttttttt even i wouldnt of done that and thats saying something

[crack]

its looking good mate. good luck with putting rthat all abk together ::) one giant puzzle

[brokelux]

what happens to a 4 cylinder clutch when you put a turbo 6 in front of it????

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=524

[timbocruiser]

nah she will be right mate, heaps left on it!! ;D

[brokelux]

ok so i finally ordered my diff gears they should arrive monday morning and took the poor old lux to the auto electrician to be fixed properly

[crankycruiser]

what happens to a 4 cylinder clutch when you put a turbo 6 in front of it????

http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=524



Nah thats wat happens wen ya drive the crap outta a 4cyl clutch, with a turbo 6 ::) ;D

[timbocruiser]

ok so i finally ordered my diff gears they should arrive monday morning and took the poor old lux to the auto electrician to be fixed properly


he gunna fix ya spagetti ay mate, ya not takin it to channel auto elecs are ya ???

[brokelux]

ok so i finally ordered my diff gears they should arrive monday morning and took the poor old lux to the auto electrician to be fixed properly


he gunna fix ya spagetti ay mate, ya not takin it to channel auto elecs are ya ???


no why is that???
and yeah spagettie aint the word
more like noodles

[brokelux]

did some more to the lux tonight (Thanks Reddo and Mark)

made some brackets and put the grill back on (thanks Reddo and Mark)

mounted the oil cooler again (thanks Reddo and Mark)

ohh wait did i do anything???

[Sass]

hows it going all?
Im just about to start fitting a 7mge to my 89 dualcab lux and was wondering what radiator your using brokelux?
did you need a bodylift? what fuel pump you using? how hard did you find the swap? did you use the 7m/22r engine mount combo like i am going too?
Im Sure there will be more questions as the conversion progresses.
Cheers Sass

[brokelux]

hey Sass i'm using the three core deisel radiator with a huge thermo fan i already had a 2 inch body lift and i wouldn't have been able to top mount the intercooler without the lift... however if u were to front mount the intercooler it would fit no worries. i have too fuel pumps the first one is high volume to lift the fuel out of the tank to a second pump wich is a high pressure pump. wich supplies the pressure to the engine had to do this because i couldn't gravity feed the pump due to 4wd and didn't want to mount the pump under the tank

i just used one engine mount of the 22r left hand i think (bolted staight on to the block) and manufactured anouther mount for the right hand side. was a bit harded.

still though i had to cut and reweld the mounts to the chassis.

hope u will keep us informed as to how your conversion goes and not only keep to one post on this forum.


cheers Doug

[Reddo]

did some more to the lux tonight (Thanks Reddo and Mark)

made some brackets and put the grill back on (thanks Reddo and Mark)

mounted the oil cooler again (thanks Reddo and Mark)

ohh wait did i do anything???



Nooooo worries mate, annnnnyyyyy time :P

[brokelux]

built my front (highpinion) diff today and put the front diff in the rear for a southport trip

going to put the high pinion diff in the front tomorrow night

the rear diff had too teeth missing from the crownwheel and one from the pinion. (Too mant burnouts) ::)

[Sass]

yeah ok,
ive actually been a member for over a year but do all my chatting on outerlimits. this forum has grown in a year!!!!!
mate any chance of a photo or telling me how you moded you radiator pannel to move the radiator forward to clear the front of the motor?
did you do the wire up?
how hard did you find it?
Cheers
Sass

PS that makes 2.

[brokelux]

yeah ok,
ive actually been a member for over a year but do all my chatting on outerlimits. this forum has grown in a year!!!!!
mate any chance of a photo or telling me how you moded you radiator pannel to move the radiator forward to clear the front of the motor?
did you do the wire up?
how hard did you find it?
Cheers
Sass

PS that makes 2.


well i just used a three core deisel radiator and mounted it straight up had to grind a bit of the member at the bottom of the radiator it still runs pretty close but doesn't touch recon i will get the air con pully machined of the end of the harmonic balancer to give me some extra clearance

yes i wired the engine using a wolf3d computer but sent it to a sparky to get it fixed properly about 6 months later when my tail light harness needed replacing

it took me bout 9 months from start to finish but i had to stuff round turning the turbo housing upside down, mounting the intercooler, oil coolerand all the goodies that go with a turbo car.

would have been a lot quicker if i didn't stop every five minutes to get anouther beer out of the fridge

[brokelux]

got the front diff in today and the front tail shaft is a bit short bugger will have to get anouther one made up before i put the big lift under luxy

[brokelux]

New tyres today
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/tyres.jpg

[timbocruiser]

they mongrels or simex mate? look pretty darn good though

[brokelux]

got a spare too http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/tyre2.jpg

[brokelux]

they mongrels or simex mate? look pretty darn good though


silverstone extreems

[timbocruiser]

yeah wiked, thats what im thinkin bout gettin, they look like 33s? so can ya get em now? how much and did ya get em from sparco?

[Reddo]

yeah wiked, thats what im thinkin bout gettin, they look like 33s? so can ya get em now? how much and did ya get em from sparco?


To put em on what? There 10.5" wide lol and would look awsome on the 80 :P

Looks better Doug, be interesting to see what you think of them, and how they go on there first trip ;D

[timbocruiser]

in 35s numbnuts, and plus they are quite cheap too ;D

[brokelux]

they are 35 * 10.5 on a 16inch rim

[timbocruiser]

cmon spill the beans, how much and where did ya get em! ;D

[brokelux]

sorry cant tell you how much i paid boss would murder me got them though work Embrook Mechanical - just gone into tyres in the last two months.

[brokelux]

went to southport friday night blew up reverse gear and busted my steering sleeped the night in the vehicles and came home the next day without even getting to the camp site

[taziiy]

bugger and you just had the gearbox out too :o

[brokelux]

yeah recon this time i might replace all the bolts with wing nuts

[taziiy]

yeah recon this time i might replace all the bolts with wing nuts


so thats for the quick removal next time hey ;D

[brokelux]

seriously tho i'm on the lookout for a transphere case to fit a 2003-04 model hilux for my gearbox conversion

[brokelux]

ok i'm thinking about modifying my steering has anyone out there with a hilux modified the steering arm on the right hand side that comes out of the swivel hub apparantly u can turn the "ball" upside down this bit is easy but how do you make and adjustable drag link

[-BJ-]

What do you want to achieve ? My draglink put a huge dent in my shock so I bought an adjustable one. Theyre not cheap-bout $300 from memory.

[brokelux]

want to get the bottom of the drag link away from the springs as when its flexed up then the drag ling will hit on the u bolts causing the arm to break this has happened to me twice now and i want to put bigger suspension in the lux so this will make the problem worse

[brokelux]

pulled my gearbox apart today why is it that its always the most expensive parts that break??? ??? :o :'(

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/reverse1.jpg

[GQtray]

Because you are a rough bastard, thats why. ;D ;D

[brokelux]

hmm unfortunatly your right again ::) dont spose yourve got a spare cluster shaft in the shed

[PJ.zook]

ouch that looks nice n expensive. Yeh dont ya hate that, in a gbox full of gears, the shaft with the most complicated machining goes bang instead of a single idler gear.

[GQtray]

hmm unfortunatly your right again ::) dont spose yourve got a spare cluster shaft in the shed

No but a mate of mine would have one or two lying around.

[brokelux]

ouch that looks nice n expensive. Yeh dont ya hate that, in a gbox full of gears, the shaft with the most complicated machining goes bang instead of a single idler gear.


hmm yes yes i do hate that guess that gearbox just isn't designed for the thrashing i gave it

[brokelux]

hmm unfortunatly your right again ::) dont spose yourve got a spare cluster shaft in the shed

No but a mate of mine would have one or two lying around.


better ask him if he wants to sell one of them then out of a 1990 model lux RN105 had a 22R in it originally and its the shaft that has the circlip on it not a nut

cheers Doug

[GQtray]

hmm unfortunatly your right again ::) dont spose yourve got a spare cluster shaft in the shed

No but a mate of mine would have one or two lying around.


better ask him if he wants to sell one of them then out of a 1990 model lux RN105 had a 22R in it originally and its the shaft that has the circlip on it not a nut

cheers Doug

Yeah i should see him in the next day or two, so i will ask. Surely you can find a cluster a bit closer to home though??.

[brokelux]

hmm unfortunatly your right again ::) dont spose yourve got a spare cluster shaft in the shed

No but a mate of mine would have one or two lying around.


better ask him if he wants to sell one of them then out of a 1990 model lux RN105 had a 22R in it originally and its the shaft that has the circlip on it not a nut

cheers Doug

Yeah i should see him in the next day or two, so i will ask. Surely you can find a cluster a bit closer to home though??.

yeah ive been lookin peter finch can get me a new one (at a price) wasn't gunna drive up again was thinking u might post it to me ;D

will pay for postage ect

might still be better of buying a new one

find out for me anyway k

[brokelux]

started stuffing round with my gearbox today to try fit my R151F box to the supra motor

i have a bellhousing to suit both the gearbox and the motor BUT....

its for a pull type clutch :'(

so i'm gunna try to modify the bellhousing to take the push type clutch ;D

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/bellhousing.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/R151F.jpg

[Gojeep]

Looks like you need some new boots too!! :D

[brokelux]

Looks like you need some new boots too!! :D


yeah cant afford it spent all my money on the lux ;D

[brokelux]

went to pick up a trasphere case from the wreakers today didn't fit the gearbox :'(

[brokelux]

finally found a transfere case i orginised freight 2 day so maybe i'll get it by the end of next week ;D

hope it fits hey 8)

also any one out there got any idea how the wiring on the SR5 box goes??

the electronic one with a stick that has three selctions high range nuetral low range and and a button on it that activates 4wd

is it an electric motor that engages 4wd???
has anyone had many problems with these???

[boof]

its a air operated or hydraulic actuator i believe, it moves the shaft locking mechanism along to lock in the front diff. I have had mine apart and understand how it works but dont really know how to explain only problem ive had is when my battery crapped itself and leaked acid on one of the hoses >:(

[brokelux]

yeah u talking about the front diff actuator???
i have manual locking hubs on mine was just curious about the wiring on the transfere side.

[brokelux]

my transphere arrived 2day and it fits ;D :D ;) :)yah

[crankycruiser]

Nice work Douglas..

Be ready for show weekend then ;D

[brokelux]

dont recon gotta work the friday anyway

[brokelux]

here's my gearbox
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/gearbox.jpg


and my bellhousing being modified
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/bellhousing2.jpg

and the bellhousing i'm using for parts
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/donarhousing.jpg

[red_zook]

dam duggy.. is taht box the same size one as a standard lux? it looks HUGE! but hell if she fixes it!
Philby

[brokelux]

dam duggy.. is taht box the same size one as a standard lux? it looks HUGE! but hell if she fixes it!
Philby


well it is a standard lux box but not in my model only the turbo deisel lux they put them in some 100 series wagons as well so i recon its gotta be stronger. i,ve had a few of them apart and they look a lot stonger than the g52 / w58 boxes

[Stevencc182]

Nice truck, Would love to see some action photos,

[brokelux]

finally got the slave cylider welded to my bell housing

now i went to put the box in and the gearbox input shart is only just long enough to splin into the clutch so now i'm gunna have to make a spacer for the flywheel GGGGRRRRRRRRRR

who would want to modify there vechicle any way lol

[crankycruiser]

finally got the slave cylider welded to my bell housing

now i went to put the box in and the gearbox input shart is only just long enough to splin into the clutch so now i'm gunna have to make a spacer for the flywheel GGGGRRRRRRRRRR

who would want to modify there vechicle any way lol


NOT ME ;D

[crankycruiser]

Nice truck, Would love to see some action photos,



ROFL.. It has to be goin to git them ;D

[Reddo]

Nice truck, Would love to see some action photos,



ROFL.. It has to be goin to git them ;D


i've only seen it in the shed ;D

[brokelux]

finnally got off my butt and got my gearbox pulled apart i sent the input shaft to the shop to be modified with a second one to be used for parts
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/shafted.jpg

*edit* note the diffence in the size of the gears

[ozrunner]

Brokelux

Just been reading about your project.

The problem with the R151 is you are trying to fit an R151 to a bell that is for a R154. The R154 has a 30mm longer input shaft and it is only available in Toyota cars, eg Supra's. The R150/151 are for 4WD's.

I guess you realise that the transfer you have fitted will need a separate trans ECU wired up for it to work as it's an ADD transfer.

Before you spend any more money on this what mods are you having done to your input shaft and what trans is it out of ?

JD

[brokelux]

Brokelux

Just been reading about your project.

The problem with the R151 is you are trying to fit an R151 to a bell that is for a R154. The R154 has a 30mm longer input shaft and it is only available in Toyota cars, eg Supra's. The R150/151 are for 4WD's.

I guess you realise that the transfer you have fitted will need a separate trans ECU wired up for it to work as it's an ADD transfer.

Before you spend any more money on this what mods are you having done to your input shaft and what trans is it out of ?

JD




sounds like u have done your homework
yes your right on all accounts

currently getting the input shaft lenghtened by 30 mm and having a sleave made up for the throw out race

yes its electronically activated 4wd but i work for a company that has a sparky too so this isn't a real drama

yeah its a lot of trouble but its worth it

[brokelux]

the original tranny is a g52 but i'm putting a R151F out of a turbo deisel hilux in it

[ozrunner]

currently getting the input shaft lenghtened by 30 mm
That could be interesting from a strength point of view.

The best and strongest way is to use a W series bell from a Supra engine which I guess is what you just cut ;D and use this adapter from Marks. All bolts up with no bits to break.

ADAPTER (http://members.iinet.net.au/~ozrunner/AdapterR150.html)

I assume your truck was a live axle 22R with a manual select chain transfer, ie no button on the lever?

JD

[brokelux]

currently getting the input shaft lenghtened by 30 mm
That could be interesting from a strength point of view.

The best and strongest way is to use a W series bell from a Supra engine which I guess is what you just cut ;D and use this adapter from Marks. All bolts up with no bits to break.


I assume your truck was a live axle 22R with a manual select chain transfer, ie no button on the lever?

JD


well yes it will be interesting to see how stong its going to be but i recon if done properly it will handle it.guess only time will tell.

no i didn't cut the w series bell housing they are too hard to come by i'll keep it for a rainy day ;)

"The adapters thickness is counteracted by having an equal thickness
spigot bearing housing extension machined to fit the existing crank section."

this is the bit that really worries me flywheel adapters really scare me infact they petrify me. i would rather break my input shaft than have the flywheel cut my car in half


your right on all accounts as far as what it used to be but she aint anymore.

cheers Doug

[brokelux]

k i'm confused
i know its not hard too do
but i was reading about that adapter and if i got that i would still be left with the same problem again.- bellhousing too long

so why would u use that adapter if you had a bell housing that bolts that gearbox to my motor anyway ???

the only reason i can come up with is that its so damn hard to find that particular bell housing

[ozrunner]

no i didn't cut the w series bell housing they are too hard to come by i'll keep it for a rainy day

Ok if you still have the W series bell then there is no need to lengthen the R151 input.

You will find the W series bell is the correct length for an R151 input so with the use of the Marks adapter the R151 will then bolt straight up to the W bell as per the pics and then onto the engine as its the factory W series.

this is the bit that really worries me flywheel adapters really scare me infact they petrify me

Its not a flywheel adapter as your flywheel bolts up as per normal. It will be a small round machined section that bolts onto the back off the flywheel using longer bolts to support the spigot bush, ie if the input shaft is moved back 10mm because of the adapter then the spigot bush also needs to come back 10mm. Thats all it is just a relocated spigot bush housing.

Also forget the ADD button transfer and swap the input shaft and splined adapter sleeve from the ADD transfer into your transfer and it will then bolt up to the R151 and you have what you had before and not have wiring or ECU to worry about.

All very simple really ;D

JD

[brokelux]

It will be a small round machined section that bolts onto the back off the flywheel using longer bolts to support the spigot bush

so the longer bolts are actually the flywheel bolts?

[brokelux]

Also forget the ADD button transfer and swap the input shaft and splined adapter sleeve from the ADD transfer into your transfer and it will then bolt up to the R151

no it wont

[ozrunner]

so the longer bolts are actually the flywheel bolts?
Yes.

So why won't the transfer bolt up if you swap the inputs etc ?

[brokelux]

ok the bolt pattern on the r151f gearbox is completly different.


if the fly wheel bolts are long i class that as a flywheel adapter.

makking the flywheel bolt longer weakens them.

i like to live on the rev limiter

i do not want the fly wheel to cut my car in half at 6000rpm about 100 revs per second!!!!!!

i have seen this happen and i dont really want my legs to be chopped off

i like them attatched to my body

cheers Doug

[ozrunner]

ok the bolt pattern on the r151f gearbox is completly different.

One more try, ;D

But the transfer is bolted to the transfer adapter not the gearbox as per your pics above with the ADD transfer bolted up to the R151.

If you now swap the ADD transfer input shaft into your original non ADD transfer it will then bolt up and you don't need to worry about an ECU etc etc.

I did this 13 years ago after coming across the same problem with a 4cyl transfer as I did want ADD. The R series has a different output shaft spline count than the 4cyl G series trans but if you swap the R series transfer input shaft into a 4cyl transfer it will then mount up. Check these pages.
http://members.iinet.net.au/~ozrunner/5Speed.html


if the fly wheel bolts are long i class that as a flywheel adapter.
Hmmm very common mod used by hundreds but your call. I think you will be pulling the gearbox very soon with a broken input shaft ;D

[brokelux]

so now we have a transphere adapter as well as a gearbox adapter???

[ozrunner]

Look at the pic of your new setup above.

You have a bellhousing

Followed by a R151 trans

Followed by a transfer adapter (or intermediate housing) the one with the levers, which is what the transfer bolts to, not the trans.

Followed by a transfer.

Put the ADD input shaft into your old chain transfer and it will then bolt up to this housing.

[brokelux]

ok that transpher in the transfer i paid good money for to suit that transmission give me a minute i'll post a pic of my old transpher and new one side by side then u might see wat i mean

[brokelux]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/trans.jpg

[ozrunner]

I was begiining to think that was the problem.

I previously asked if your old one was a chain transfer and you said yes ;D

Its not, that is a gear transfer.

There are still several options ;D

Go to a wrecker and swap the ADD transfer for a chain driven Non ADD transfer from a early 90's RV6 4Runner. It is manual shift and will bolt straight up and you can relocate the lever, or they may swap both the transfer and intermediate housing with a cash difference.

BUT ;D if you want to use the gear driven transfer for several reasons, ie crawler gears are available for it, plus you can fit duals transfers later if you do a lot of slow rock climbing then you can.

Marks also have an adapter that goes onto the R series intermediate housing that then allows this gear transfer to be used.

Personally if I was you I would seriously consider either of these options as the electric transfer you have can be a bitch to wire up if you can't shortcut it.

Can I assume you are in Perth?

[brokelux]

ahh my fault again :-[ must of had too many beers that night

na i'm not in perth i'm in New Norfolk Tasmania

recon i'll keep to my originnal plan yeah i'm pigg headed but i recon it'll work

bear in mind wiring isn't a problem

cheers doug

[ozrunner]

Bloody hell you must be a night owl.

No probs.

You could easy shortcut it by rigging up a two way switch system direct to the transfer motor.

[brokelux]

yep your right i'm goin to bed

2morrow catcha

[kingchevy]

pulled my gearbox apart today why is it that its always the most expensive parts that break??? ??? :o :'(

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/reverse1.jpg




Thats what my cruiser box looked like when I blew it up behind the 6.5 diesel ;D

[4Runner_Adam]

I think ill stay with my 2.4 slug at least its not as likely to kill my driveline in a hurry, and i just hate working on my driveline.

Best of luck getting it all sorted mate hope it works out for you

[brokelux]

yeah thats a fair comment guess some people like power for five minutes (till somethin breaks)
and some like reliability

p.s. i ride my bike to work ehhehehhe

[brokelux]

my input shaft will be ready tomorrow ;D
i'm so excited :D

[ozrunner]

I assume this is the R151 shaft ? Mate I wouldn't mind seeing a pic off it ;D

[brokelux]

will post a pic 2morrow night

[brokelux]

here it is as promised

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/shafte.jpg

[-BJ-]

How much did it cost you to alter ? My drive shaft was damn expensive to shorten, not the same I know :P

[brokelux]

cost me the grand sum of $99.00
gunnu have to do my tailshafts as well though recon they will be even cheaper than that

its not what u know its who u know hehehehehe

[ozrunner]

finnally got off my butt and got my gearbox pulled apart i sent the input shaft to the shop to be modified with a second one to be used for parts


Is this modified one out of the R151 ?

So its been lengthened welded and sleeved etc. Looks Ok but not wishing to be a party pooper but I think you will be very lucky for that to hold for any length of time ;D.

[brokelux]

guess we will just have to wait and see then hey

wanna put a wager on it ;D

[brokelux]

input shaft is the perfect length :D

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/clutch.jpg


now i just have to make a sleeve for my thow out bearing but i have an feeling that prado bearings have a sleeve on them already might have to go down to abs and compare some bearings me thinks
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/flywheel.jpg

[ozrunner]

wanna put a wager on it

Tempting ;D If it was rehardened afterwards you may get away with it but again it will depend on how it was joined, ie male/female cone press prior to welding etc.

Looking good though so keep up with the pics.

[brokelux]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/morebits.jpg

another heap of parts i have to modify

[crankycruiser]

input shaft is the perfect length :D

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/clutch.jpg


now i just have to make a sleeve for my thow out bearing but i have an feeling that prado bearings have a sleeve on them already might have to go down to abs and compare some bearings me thinks
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/flywheel.jpg

there some very erotic fotos there douglas :o ;D

[brokelux]

u idiot ray

did your parents make u play with barbie dolls when u where younger

[crankycruiser]

u idiot ray

did your parents make u play with barbie dolls when u where younger


Nope.. but when i went to ur house i was playin wid urs.... and that was only on the weekend :P ;D

[brokelux]

Ray that wasn't a barbie doll
nor should u have been in my bedroom :-[ :P

[crankycruiser]

Ray that wasn't a barbie doll
nor should u have been in my bedroom :-[ :P

Awww so that wasnt hair gel on it then???? ???

[brokelux]

today i found a throwout bearing that will do the job i want (out of a prado i think)

redrilled my front tailshaft yoke

played with my speedo drive (changing it from electronic to cable)

recon i'll get the front tailshaft extended by 50mm while i'm at it

[brokelux]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/exhaust.jpg

got my hilux going again YAH

cept now the exhaust wont bolt up anymore cause of the new transfere bummer

and i need to get the transfere wired up so i can do some 4x4 action

[brokelux]

cut my really expensive exhaust system into peices today
will weld it up to morrow then maybe i might be able to hear the radio when i'm driving :D

[crankycruiser]

Nice work douggie...

Be good to have the ol girl back on the rd.. again eh :D

[brokelux]

welded my exhaust today is much better and it still spins 35's even tho i dont want it too

[-BJ-]

Found a dual cab body yet ?

[crankycruiser]

welded my exhaust today is much better and it still spins 35's even tho i dont want it too


Take ya foot of the go pedal then!!!!

[brokelux]

Found a dual cab body yet ?


na not really lookin that hard at the moment
got other stuff to worrie about

[brokelux]

welded my exhaust today is much better and it still spins 35's even tho i dont want it too


Take ya foot of the go pedal then!!!!

not gunna happen

[brokelux]

i puy my rear springs in the front on the weekend
also got some shocks lined up for the old girl

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/shocks.jpg

[brokelux]

gunna do a steering conversion some time durin the week

make my steering look like this
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/steering.jpg

[red_zook]

gunna do a steering conversion some time durin the week

make my steering look like this
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/steering.jpg

DAM THATS DISCRIPTIVE!
bit more info would be good
y dont u do cross over? like my new set up?
Philby

[brokelux]

k sorry bout my lack of discription thought the photo would have explained it

any way i'm gunna turn the ball on the "horse shoe" arm upside down and make an adjustable drag ling to suit

is that any better?

[brokelux]

got some stuff sorted o0ut today
1 extended tail shaft http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/tail.jpg

1 modified hoeshoe steering arm http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/steerin.jpg

1 modified drag link http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/steer.jpg

[brokelux]

put my steering in today havn't got pics yet cause its still raining out side

also fixed my busted spring
and put my new front shocks in

[GQtray]

Nice work Doug,much involved in turn the ball over on the steering arm??. By the way i have seen plenty of lengthened M20,M21 front shafts to change 6 cyl boxes to V8's over the years and never seen one break. ;)

[brokelux]

na mate was easy went down to the wreaking yard found the bits i needed soaked em inox and paid a mate 60 buck to fis my steering and lengthen the front tailshaft cheap as chips

[-BJ-]

na mate was easy went down to the wreaking yard found the bits i needed soaked em inox and paid a mate 60 buck to fis my steering and lengthen the front tailshaft cheap as chips


It obviously pays to know people if that is all it costed you...


So whats next ?

[brokelux]

gotta sort my springs out properly (2morrow night)
rear shackle extension

then well...

finnally get my 40 series diff in

[-BJ-]

40 series eh ? Mine is on its way out...so how much did a new one cost you ?

[brokelux]

well i've got all the bits in the shed and i'm gunna build it myself but the housing cost me a tank of petrol and i cant remember wat i paid for it (help me out hiluxV8) the diff center cost me $50 and the crown wheel and pinion i got new for about $700 with bearings but thats from memory and my memory is real bad

[-BJ-]

Good luck with it then....are you gonna fit a locker ?

[brokelux]

yep eventually but havn't got the cash just yet

[brokelux]

found a fully sic pic of the hilux flexin it up
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/Doug.jpg

[patrol power]

nice flexin

[brokelux]

busy day today

replaced an axle bearing
removed sump bashed the dents out and welded it up from where i bashed the punch right through ::) :-[
even changed the engine oil and filter :D


fixed power steering leak

repaired front diff breather

repaired wiring to winch - and respooled the cable on nice and neat like

finished all those little "one day" jobs

although i am a bit worried about my steering ever sense i inverted the ball on that steering arm. at around 20klm/hr the steering wheel shakes something cronic - but only when u hit a bump. i dont just mean shakes a little bit either its like my car is possesed by some greenie demon

[boof]

although i am a bit worried about my steering ever sense i inverted the ball on that steering arm. at around 20klm/hr the steering wheel shakes something cronic - but only when u hit a bump. i dont just mean shakes a little bit either its like my car is possesed by some greenie demon


That dont sound like fun is it only at that speed or whenever it hits a bump

[brokelux]

both it wont do it at any other speed only at 20k when it hits a bump

but at 20k if it doesn't hit a bump it wont do it

[GQtray]

well i've got all the bits in the shed and i'm gunna build it myself but the housing cost me a tank of petrol and i cant remember wat i paid for it (help me out hiluxV8) the diff center cost me $50 and the crown wheel and pinion i got new for about $700 with bearings but thats from memory and my memory is real bad

Hmm i think it was $100.Not sure tho.

[crusr]

im glad you bothered to put new oil in ofter you took the sump off......

[brokelux]

im glad you bothered to put new oil in ofter you took the sump off......


lol i sorta thought that would be the appropriate thing to do

[brokelux]

well i took my hilux wheelin last night, had a ball was pretty happy with the way it went but...

on the way home it kept jumping out of third and forth gear >:(

so i crawled under it bout half hour ago and started checking out the detent springs and balls

and wadda ya know the ball in 3rd and forth gear was missing, recon that was my fault i took it out about a year ago to use for parts in anouther box but i always thought i had put it back in..... obviously not

any way dont matter problem is fixed and i'm a happy man again :D

[boof]

good to see you getting the use out of it again ;D

[brokelux]

yeah and i'm lovin it southport for new years and after that i'll be able to post some vids

[boof]

looking forward to hearing what it sounds like at full noise should be 8)

[red_zook]

looking forward to hearing what it sounds like at full noise should be 8)

unless it has been tuned from last time i herd it... it woudl be somgint like
brrromm brrrommm pop bang fart bang pop fart brromm brrrommm
8)
Philby

[brokelux]

BAA PHOOEE :-[

[brokelux]

got this video up but the sound doesn't work and i dont know why

http://www.zippyvideos.com/4274574162977736/100_0606/

[BushTuckerNed]

got this video up but the sound doesn't work and i dont know why

http://www.zippyvideos.com/4274574162977736/100_0606/

have u got ur speakers on? coz the sound worked fine for me :D

nice bog hole, car sounds nice too 8)

[boof]

Awwww cmon we need sound ;D

[brokelux]

ahh ok yes speakers are on dont know why sound dont work for me then

ohh well i can watch it straight of my puta anyway

[brokelux]

Awwww cmon we need sound ;D


well apparantly its got sound

[boof]

Sounds awesome a lot throatier than I expected it too :o

[brokelux]

got one coming just startin to download it when it gets bogged at hits the rev limiter
;D

[boof]

Cool should be good :D

[-BJ-]

Sounds wicked :D Flew out of that hole...looks like it could be good at the 1/4 mile ;D

[brokelux]

Sounds wicked :D Flew out of that hole...looks like it could be good at the 1/4 mile ;D


dont laugh i'm thinking about putting the 31's back on putting 14pound boost through it and runnin down the 1/4

it flew out of the hole cause my accelerator got stuck on full throttle ;D :o

[brokelux]

Sounds awesome a lot throatier than I expected it too :o


yeah its sounds awsome from inside the cab cause u can hear the turbo wistling as well turbo + 3 inch exhaust gets me excited everytime i hear it ;D :D

[timbocruiser]

nice vid doug!! 8)

[brokelux]

here's anouther one
me bogged again
http://www.zippyvideos.com/2469243242978616/100_0594/

[boof]

you blokes love the mud ;D

[timbocruiser]

here's anouther one
me bogged again
http://www.zippyvideos.com/2469243242978616/100_0594/


FARK no wonder you break shit all the time man!!! ;D

[boysurfer]

Thats cool 8)
Those tyres can really dig! Dug it self down prity quick once it was stuck.
Nice work

[brokelux]

and one more for good luck
http://www.zippyvideos.com/9096664632979286/100_0611/

[sumkindaroadkill]

AWESOME - sounds like a proper mans truck ;)

[boof]

Ay whats going on you didnt get stuck or break anything thats no fun to watch ;D 8)

[brokelux]

sorry i'll do better next time

[Taslux]

Love the vids.

Having trouble picking location though??

[Taslux]

Actually let me guess...............Southport?

[crankycruiser]

Actually let me guess...............Southport?

U would be right....


Southport..... The place to be! ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Lux orr]

FAARRRKK
No wonder ypu keep breaking axels if that thing found some grip the thing would have EXPLODED! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[brokelux]

axles??? havn't broken one yet touch wood

[crack]

thats sounds sweet brokelux!! ;D

[brokelux]

cheers mate

[-BJ-]

Sounds wicked :D Flew out of that hole...looks like it could be good at the 1/4 mile ;D


dont laugh i'm thinking about putting the 31's back on putting 14pound boost through it and runnin down the 1/4

it flew out of the hole cause my accelerator got stuck on full throttle ;D :o


Your throttle stuck ? Bugger :o

Seriously, I am interested in how quick it would actually be...

[brokelux]

give me a couple of months and i'll run it down the quarter

[Reddo]

Poor lil lux :( your so mean to it doug :-[ Nice vid tho, still cant make it though simple lines tho ;D you suck ;D

[brokelux]

baa phooee

[brokelux]

well i broke my hilux again the bearing front bearing in my starter motor collapsed and destroyed my whole starter.

and yes i still like mud thats just the price u pay i spose

so i'm on the look out for a new starter motor to suit a 7mgte anyone got one in there back pocket???

also i wat to put some 2 inch blocks in my springs so to lift the back of my luxy up to suit the front and of u tassie boys know anyone that makes them???

any know i'm not gunna make a set out of RHS

[LIVEx4x4]

Those Vids are sweet, but you have o stop breaking ya truck ;D ;D

Andrew

[brokelux]

stop breakin my truck BAHAHAHAHA

yeah right

only good thing about that is every time i break it i make it stronger

[brokelux]

well the lux is alive again got new starter all good

[brokelux]

put my burn out tyres back on today
i recon they are awsome
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/cook.jpg

[crankycruiser]

Geez u could wash the bloody thing !!!

[timbocruiser]

geez the new starter wil need to be replaced again soon! how many times did ya stall it yesty? ;D :P

[timbocruiser]

new vid for doug


http://i1.zvhost.com/1/f/fb3ihjdr.jpg (http://www.zippyvideos.com/6709706423233426/100_1102/*timbocruiser)

[brokelux]

geez the new starter wil need to be replaced again soon! how many times did ya stall it yesty? ;D :P


hmm poor old (new) starter
next on the wish list for my lux is a decent driver :-[

[crankycruiser]

geez the new starter wil need to be replaced again soon! how many times did ya stall it yesty? ;D :P


hmm poor old (new) starter
next on the wish list for my lux is a decent driver :-[


Well u've got the awesmone navigator ;D

[brokelux]

suprux toon

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/dougtoon600x480.jpg

[brokelux]

ok i've finally had enough of cleaning my spark plugs due to not having my computer programed properly

(it takes about an hour to pull my plugs out and clean them)

so i've finally spat the dummy and got it into my (and the missus) head to get it tuned properly

last time it put out a measly 115KW at the wheels but its still undrivable past half throttle (stars missing and breaking down)

waddaya recon she will put out in KW after we program the puta properly????

[taziiy]

who knows ???

[brokelux]

thought i would put these pics up they are in the burnout thread but i recon they belong here as well

1st gear
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/1stgear.jpg

2nd gear
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/burnout.jpg

cant see shed
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/burnshed.jpg

[Lux orr]

looks cool brokelux ;D ;D ;D

[timbocruiser]

your a bogan dude ;)

[brokelux]

your a bogan dude ;)

funny thats wat the missus said

[brokelux]

well i had a busy sunday

project one : wash hilux - cut then polish

project two : remove seats floor vinyel and remove mud

project three : fit new rear springs

[brokelux]

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a381/Brokelux/shiny.jpg

[brokelux]

ohh and i called up to get it tuned but cant do it untill the weather cools off a bit somethin to do wid the ambiant temp too high

[Searsy]

Think your bullbar needs adjusting as well ;D
At least we can see it does get washed (eventually)