Grimaces POS Rangie

[Grimace]

http://img108.exs.cx/img108/3818/rangie3003051ej.jpg
Current Specs / work in progress;
1989 Range Rover, 3.5EFI, White, 4dr, Auto.
Pacemaker Extractors
2.5" Mandrel Bent exhaust with High flow muffler
K&N Airfilter
Modded Torque Converter by MQ080 (all engine braking now available)
Toyota 80series diffs
4dr ute conversion with short tray
Custom tube front bar and full external cage
2x Warn 8000lb Low Mounts (front & rear to pull down on suspension )
TX4200 UHF and Meridian 4000XL GPS
39.5x13.5x17 Bias Ply Iroks
17x9 Steel US style rims
Underbelly skid plate
Custom headlight upgrade
2x Lightforce 240 Blitz Spotties
2x Lightforce 170s
custom interior and exterior (under body) lighting

rear
Double triangulated 4 link
4" lift springs (custom perches)
16" Procomp Shocks
Diff moved back 8"
chassis bobbed
Welded 4.1 (standard) diff
front
Custom centre crossmember
3link plus Panhard front links
16" travel 2.5 King Coilover Shocks w/Remote resevoir
dual rate kit and springs (200lb over 400lb)
30 Spline Chromo Axles and CVs (longfields)
Air Locker (tjm pro locker)
4.1 (standard) diff

Stuff in the shed yet to be fitted;
Electronic Rust Prevention System (E.R.P.S)
Wolf 3D V4 Engine Managment System
Small JapImport Electronicaly Activated Supercharger (need two of these)

Mods yet to be done but in planning;
A new outfit of Purple Paint to get the eyeballs motivated
Ashcroft Crawler unit (8.96:1 low range )

Future Mods;
4.8L Stroker Motor (another stoopid dream)
Volvo or Mog Portal Axles - YEAH RIGHT - I wish
Hydrolicly adjustable spring perches in the rear.

Thats about it

[Grimace]

when i first bought it
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afew more recent shots
http://img32.echo.cx/img32/6792/beachbog7small6yo.jpg
http://img32.echo.cx/img32/7490/beachbog2small9dr.jpg
http://img157.echo.cx/img157/9695/rr03small7ke.jpg
http://img157.echo.cx/img157/9536/rr10small1cw.jpg
http://img157.echo.cx/img157/6876/rr17small3tb.jpg

and got sum poser shots :lol:
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http://img157.echo.cx/img157/3190/rrpose03small6rx.jpg
http://img157.echo.cx/img157/9313/rrpose04small4uk.jpg

[Twisty]

Awesome truck Grimace.....are you the Grimace I met at the show n shine at the expo weekend??

[Grimace]

Awesome truck Grimace.....are you the Grimace I met at the show n shine at the expo weekend??

that was me :D

that is a great rig, one day mine will be like that, have to get it on the road first :'(

[dogbreath_48]

Love it!

Roughly how much do you think you've spent on suspension? (very roughly - PM me if you don't want to advertise)

Are the driveline upgrades essential for running 33"+ tyres with a fairly standard powerplant? Or is the standard strength gear strong enough (i'm not super hardcore, but i'm used to toyota strength and NA diesel power!)
(EDIT: i guess what i really mean is HD axels and diff's)

Do you reckon the standard guards could clear 33's or 34's with the suspension work you've done (we'll say a 4-5" lift)?

Sorry about all the Q's...weighing up whether i should buy a 'POS' rangie when Mr. Tax Man payes me back!

looking really good dude cant wait till you start chopping it up :D

and for future mods you forgot about the alternater ;) ;D

sweet lookin rangie!! we gonna see ya at Rover Park?

[Grimace]

Love it!

Roughly how much do you think you've spent on suspension? (very roughly - PM me if you don't want to advertise)

Are the driveline upgrades essential for running 33"+ tyres with a fairly standard powerplant? Or is the standard strength gear strong enough (i'm not super hardcore, but i'm used to toyota strength and NA diesel power!)
(EDIT: i guess what i really mean is HD axels and diff's)

Do you reckon the standard guards could clear 33's or 34's with the suspension work you've done (we'll say a 4-5" lift)?

Sorry about all the Q's...weighing up whether i should buy a 'POS' rangie when Mr. Tax Man payes me back!


well where do i start :D

first of all about costs - I calcualted that knowing what i know know i can rebuild my car to what you see there for around $20000 includes my original purchase price of $8000.
Most things arnt needed and I pretty confident i could build a better truck for less.

about strenght... I broke a front and a rear diff in two outing on 33s... they were old and abused but I guarantee your running a risk using standard rover diffs with anything bigger than 31s.

If you do a 4" spring lift and have a similar shock/suspension setup to mine you will get more flex than I do at current (as my tyres are acting as bumpstops on the inner wheel wells)
Depending on what wheel your using (heavy offset or not) If you running the standard alloys You will get away with not cutting the guards but you wont be able to tackle offroad stuff at speed as the compression is forced upon the diff differently and cause em to rub alot as they travel up as the weight of the vehicle is held on the springs for longer, where as during articulation and slow offroading the angle of the wheels puts them in the wheel well and away from the guards.

To fit 33s with a 4" spring lift I would reccomend fitting heavier offset wheels (to gain your stance) and cut out about 1" from the guards... dont be afraid to cut the guards as done properly it looks pretty damn good.

I had my rover with the stadard alloy wheels and not cut guards it looked funny (IMHO) with 255/85 (about a 33) tires and such a big lift without the extra stance (photos below) It was also abit to tippy, since gaining the much needed stance and chopping the guards i have been much happier with its stability.



http://img25.exs.cx/img25/9706/sidebfgs9yg.jpg
http://img259.echo.cx/img259/6659/bfsfront1xd.jpg
with the 33s on standard rims
and offroad with no body mods justthe suspension lift
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/6633/rrcrossormeau2405042lc.jpg
http://img25.exs.cx/img25/4319/2rrcrossormeau2405049dc.jpg
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as you can see its a damn tight fit on the stadard alloys and if the wheels where any further offset I would have done abit of damage.

[cpt-mud]

very nice looking rig

[Grimace]

i cant beleive how clean and well looked after it is in them pics :o

this is more its style
http://img55.echo.cx/img55/7636/rangie9km.jpg
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I look back on them pics and thing how good condition it was in :-X i really did neglect the poor thing.... owell ;D

i just bought one for $2500, new clutch, new marster cylinders (spelling), new this year F and R air lockers, duel bats, 3'lift, 33' bfg muds, i think thats about it

[dogbreath_48]

about strenght... I broke a front and a rear diff in two outing on 33s... they were old and abused but I guarantee your running a risk using standard rover diffs with anything bigger than 31s.


That's whats turning me off a rangie :P I presume alot of that 20g went on the driveline?

So what breaks exactly? Center or ring/pinion or both? Would i just be wanting to fit heavy duty centers/rings/pinions or would a locker by itself do? Would standard axels do? I presume i need to replace everything as to not leave a weak link.
As far as i can tell all the really expensive (well, stuff i can't do myself) stuff is beefing up the axels/diff's....

By the way i reckon it looks kinda cool with the skinnier tyres on! But i can see the need for a bigger offset.

Thanks for all the info! I didn't expect such a detailed reply!

Duck, can you send me or stick up a pic somewhere of yours? Did you happen to buy that off 'Rangie' - in the 'for sale' section?

-Stu :)

about strenght... I broke a front and a rear diff in two outing on 33s... they were old and abused but I guarantee your running a risk using standard rover diffs with anything bigger than 31s.


So what breaks exactly? Center or ring/pinion or both? Would i just be wanting to fit heavy duty centers/rings/pinions or would a locker by itself do? Would standard axels do?
As far as i can tell all the really expensive (well, stuff i can't do myself) stuff is beefing up the axels/diff's....
By the way i reckon it looks kinda cool with the skinnier tyres on! But i can see the need for a bigger offset.

Thanks for all the info! I didn't expect such a detailed reply!

Duck, can you send me or stick up a pic somewhere of yours? Did you happen to buy that off 'Rangie' - in the 'for sale' section?

-Stu :)


nar it got it of car point

http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album426/aad.sized.jpg

more pics at http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/gallery/album426

[Just Cruizin]

Very cool looking rig Grimace, good work.

Where are those tracks in the photos.

Those tyres certainly fill the guards.

[Grimace]

Very cool looking rig Grimace, good work.

Where are those tracks in the photos.

Those tyres certainly fill the guards.

Them tracks are out Ormeau (cept the ones on the beach offcourse)

[Grimace]

about strenght... I broke a front and a rear diff in two outing on 33s... they were old and abused but I guarantee your running a risk using standard rover diffs with anything bigger than 31s.


That's whats turning me off a rangie :P I presume alot of that 20g went on the driveline?

So what breaks exactly? Center or ring/pinion or both? Would i just be wanting to fit heavy duty centers/rings/pinions or would a locker by itself do? Would standard axels do? I presume i need to replace everything as to not leave a weak link.
As far as i can tell all the really expensive (well, stuff i can't do myself) stuff is beefing up the axels/diff's....

By the way i reckon it looks kinda cool with the skinnier tyres on! But i can see the need for a bigger offset.

Thanks for all the info! I didn't expect such a detailed reply!

-Stu :)


Stu
IMHO the order of strength in a new rover diff is
1. Axles
2. Cross Pin & centre
3. CW&P
but over time the centre cross pin wears and in a used diff that becomes the weakest link.

If you fit just a locker (arb/detroit etc) you are most likely gonna start destroying axles. The CW&P imho should be ok with 33s... my CW&P were ok the only thing that damaged them was the bits from the side gears getting wedged in between :(

Now not to mention ontop off all the bits mentioned above. The front also Has CVs.... these are about asweak as the axles... when steering in a straight line they have a greater deal of strength but as soon as you load them up while at full lock your strength is very minimal and they will bust way b4 an axle gives way (also note the earlier cvs, pre 88, were slightly stronger).

If you inted on running 33s I beleive the maxi drive or jacmac locker and axle upgrade is the only way to go if you want to be able to give it sum. (this isnt to say you wont break anything but it will be fairly strong). Maxi Drive suggest you fit the AUE2522 cvs from an earlier 110 defender and this is IMHO a great option but Get onto the boys at Haultech in Logan village (QLD) about their Ring welded and heat treated CVs (much stronger) that are currently been used in sum of australias top competition buggies (an in my car).
I beleive the maxi gear is safe upto 35" rubber but then you will begin to start worrying about the CW&P holding out under larger loads in the rear end.

My maxi gear is all up for sale soon as now with the 37s I am too scared to go as hard as i would like, and a toy centre conversion is in order (welding the rear) ;D then maybe I will start test fitting sum 42s ;)

[HnM]

You are gay ;D

[Reddo]

tehehehe thats a top rover ya got there Ant ;D

can i put in a w00t w00t yet?

[Reddo]

You are gay ;D


I agree ;D

[Grimace]

You are gay ;D


I agree ;D


ME TOO ;D

w00t w00t
http://img282.echo.cx/img282/7594/rr64td.jpg
http://img282.echo.cx/img282/2206/rr79mr.jpg

well... um... have you started the chop ? ;D

awesome pics 8)

y do u call it ya POS rangie ???

[Grimace]

y do u call it ya POS rangie ???


Cause its a Piece Of Sh*t ;)

And nope chop hasnt started but i started getting the interior out and clearin out the shit that was in the way.
http://img164.echo.cx/img164/8718/interiornolining21kv.jpg
http://img164.echo.cx/img164/4125/interiornolining18sv.jpg
http://img164.echo.cx/img164/7414/interiorrearfloor3is.jpg

Also installed two of these... hope i never have to use em
http://img164.echo.cx/img164/9438/interiorfe24az.jpg

i cant be botherd reading, are u makeing it a tub or a tray

[Grimace]

and here is sum of the toys i had hidding under my bed ;)

http://img164.echo.cx/img164/2197/pol00021pk.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Grimace]

i cant be botherd reading, are u makeing it a tub or a tray


;)
http://img164.echo.cx/img164/2003/caroutdoorscopy7jc.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)

[Gojeep]

What the compressor type thing in the fore ground? Not a super charger is it??

i cant be botherd reading, are u makeing it a tub or a tray


;)
http://img164.echo.cx/img164/2003/caroutdoorscopy7jc.jpg (http://www.imageshack.us)


nice, should be good when its done, mine looks better, but its a long way off

http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/album426/aal.sized.jpg

[Grimace]

What the compressor type thing in the fore ground? Not a super charger is it??


i think it is ;D

and duck I want a 4dr ute cause i want sumthing different and I actually think MINE LOOKS BETTER :P

What the compressor type thing in the fore ground? Not a super charger is it??


i think it is ;D

and duck I want a 4dr ute cause i want sumthing different and I actually think MINE LOOKS BETTER :P


yours is purple with a mackers sticker on it though

i get it now, my bad, it will look good with the external role cage on it

[PJ.zook]

Is that background done in Scenarist?

[Grimace]

Is that background done in Scenarist?


d00d I have know idea my mate whipped it up for me ;D

just abit of tech to add guys... I am starting to contemplate the diff swap.

So far my options are
GU Front and rear - semi floating thou and I dont really like that, also front hubs are the weak link which is good because there cheap and easy to replace but they are not designed for full time 4wd application
80s Rear and Front with Custom nissan 9" centre conversion - so far this is the most appealing as it will be stronger and easier to get bit and peices for... i can heat treat and ring weld the CVs for more strength and the only thing to remember and match is the toyo and nissan ration front to rear.
Volvo Portals - Ok great idea but it means more $$$ to outlay upfront, but i get everything.

all the above options will give me better brakes, wider track, easier choice of wheel selection/availibility, strength, and allow me to run 39" Iroks ;D

[The Low Ranger]

Just new online and reading through the replies. Refering to dogbreaths question on running 33's, I have run 32's (235/85/16) on my rangie for the last 4 years. I only have a 2" lift on mine but when I fitted them I had no lift at all. The only mods that I had to do to stop the tyres rubbing was, I rolled the lip of the front guards, adjusted the steering stops so I didn't rub the control arms at full lock, I did have to cut a small section out of the rear inner guards but you can't tell because I removed the inner wheel arch seal off the door and stuck it to the wheel arch instead. Can't tell that the wheel arch has been cut and it still supplies the same mud sealing qualities as before. From memory I think that I put the left seal on the right wheel arch and vice versa because the seals now face in the opposite direction. I wouldn't say that I use my car hardcore, but it still gets into situations that most fourbys around wouldn't see. I take it as far as it will go with open diffs, and with the 32's on, in 4 years the only damage I have done to the driveline is, 1st outing I snapped the rear tailshaft because I broke the rear balljoint mount on the top of the diff housing, $40 bucks for a tailshaft and I straightened and re-welded the mount myself. Not a problem with that since. I also broke the rear diff about 3 years ago, replaced it with a 2nd hand unit and haven't had any problems with that since either.

[Grimace]

reduction unit on order :)
http://www.ashcroft-transmissions.co.uk/part_48.html

[Grimace]

Well getting bored of wheelin this thing so funds have started and items are bein purchased to complete the following.

Wolf Install (complete aftermarket engine managment system)
80series Diffs (with custom suspension linkages)
39" Iroks for weekend fun
33" ATs for everyday and beach stuff
Headlight upgrade (inc custom Loom)

And after the last two weeks of extensive panel damage the Chop is becomin almost a nessecity ;D both rear qtrs are screwed and my passenger side door is now supporting a rather nice dint and a invisible window :D
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/7230/cimg0056small4en.jpg

oooooooooooo nasty, looks like fun though

Hey grimmace, i met you up the beach a few months ago, Looking good on the rocks just like you said! GO to tell me where the tracks are!

[Grimace]

Hey man nice to hear from you.

Track location - Ormeau
If your ever thinkin bout comin down the Gold Coast shot me a PM and we might be able to got out for a days wheelin.
Just not soon as I am gonan start pulling my junk apart to do this next set of mods :)

[Grimace]

Will be fittin a new 500w continuos (100w peak) Pure Sine Wave invertor aswell (hopefully it arrives b4 the weekend)
Will be plenty to run the laptop for the Wolf EMS.
Two new batterys and a duel battery setup is also on the cards.
Deciding which two batterys to get is gonna be the hard part.

[Brendan]

and duck I want a 4dr ute cause i want sumthing different and I actually think MINE LOOKS BETTER :P


Boys, boys. They both look f'in ugly!

[Grimace]

and duck I want a 4dr ute cause i want sumthing different and I actually think MINE LOOKS BETTER :P


Boys, boys. They both look f'in ugly!


judgin by your signature I realy think throwing stones in a glass house isnt a good idea ;D

[Grimace]

just bought another 8000lb winch (one for both front and rear axle now)
A pair of lightforce 240s

and
http://www.intercotire.com/piclib/236.jpg arriving mid august 8)

just bought another 8000lb winch (one for both front and rear axle now)
A pair of lightforce 240s

and
http://www.intercotire.com/piclib/236.jpg arriving mid august 8)



they look sweet as, what size are they and is there an update on the tray?

[Grimace]

no update on the tray, priority is in the drive train at the moment, I just found out sum bad news, i have MAYBE bent the rear diff :(

The tyres are 39.5x13.5x15 Bias TSL IROKS

I have a set of 33" Buckshot mudders for everyday wheelin now too. With these i get back that extra 3" of uptravel i lost when i had the 37" creepys on.

After i sort out this diff delemma i will be making it my duty to get as much travel out of the front with the 39" rubber on, so prepare for a very ugly looking front end rangie ;D

[Grimace]

update o'clock
I have all the following items ready;
80series diffs (F & R)
2x warn 8000lb winches
4x second air beadlocks
12metres of seamless pipe (for custom suspension links)

Iroks arriving mid september (delayed again :( )
Reduction unit arrives end of year (cousin is bringin it back from europe for me)

I need sum heavy offset 15x8 wheels and sum 6mm sheet metal to make the mounts on the diffs.

Will be seting up a 3link+panhard front along with a double triangulated rear 4-link.
16" Procomp shocks for the rear and most prob go for 14" travel fronts.

Engine wise I not putting on the supercharger, just gonna fit the wolf. I need a second supercharger and i just wait for one to pop up at the right price, then ill consider puttin em both on.

I'll have sum photos of the gear and the custom work to follow ;D
After this is all set up an done ill be ordering a set of 30spline chromo axles and CVs from the states to go in the front end.
Rear will be welded (CIG) for now ;D

[De-lux]

soon you will have some new rims too... ay mate ;)

[brooksy]

Sounds serious, got some hard & late nights work ahead of you! Love to see the work in progress in person some time. I live in south Brissy, might get to Ormeau tracks one day, haven't been yet!! I'm going to go have a chat to the blokes at Haultech once I find where they are next week to see if they can do work on my '03 Disco.

GO the Landies !!!

[Grimace]

soon you will have some new rims too... ay mate ;)


for the onroad treads, YEAH maybe ;D

[Grimace]

Sounds serious, got some hard & late nights work ahead of you! Love to see the work in progress in person some time. I live in south Brissy, might get to Ormeau tracks one day, haven't been yet!! I'm going to go have a chat to the blokes at Haultech once I find where they are next week to see if they can do work on my '03 Disco.

GO the Landies !!!


Wat are you l;ooking to get done to your Disco???

[brooksy]

Trying to find who will do a body lift (1-2') legally?
Also 2" suspension. I have 2" block kit from 4x4Design & Eng. for the rear airbag so I need the springs & shocks to suit. I hear bilstein have just released a new shock & king springs have a custom spring that should combine for a good articulating set-up. I am fitting 33-34'' tyres once I sell my 31" M/T Claws.

P.S. I don't mind if the guards need a tickle to make it work.

Brooksy

[brooksy]

Grimace gone into hybernation ??? ???

[Grimace]

Grimace gone into hybernation ??? ???


:D not in hybernation just missed it ;D
where do i start ???
Your gonna have air bags at the rear?? And Springs at the front???
this is abit confusing... I am reading sumthing wrong i beleive.

Trying to find who will do a body lift (1-2') legally? - Getting sumone to do this for you will be $$$$

With 33 inch tyres and 2" spring and 2" body lift your guards 'should' ( :) ) be safe.

Bilsteins are xpensive but good, Konis are better :D

Lovells do a nice 2" lift spring. I can get sum from Shane (4WDStuff) on the outerlimits forum (i beleive they are $150 a pair) he has soft soft suckers all the way upto hard load carrying springs.

If you wanna view sum of the work in progress PM me and ill get in touch with you, the works will be carried out @ a secret location in Jimboombah ;) ;D

[brooksy]

Will do !!!

[brooksy]

Grimace did you get my PM ??

[Grimace]

Grimace did you get my PM ??

yes d00d ;)

[Grimace]

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6402/grimota0014kl.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/9854/grimota0028ms.jpg
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5492/grimota0033ku.jpg
third link (upper) goin to be made to fit in there sumwhere :S ;D

[Grimace]

also thought 15" rims with 39 inch rubber would leave me with too much side wall and not enough stability on the side slopes, so upgraded to 17" rims (still gotta get the $$ for them) and 39.5x17 iroks 8)

sweet as grimace 8)

[BLU-125]

Guess what Grimace.....I got 17" wheels too ;D so next time you and Skippy want to go wheeling............. ;D, bring
your tyres!!!!

Enjoyed myself the other weekend......better than a retirement home! ;D ;D ;D

[Grimace]

Guess what Grimace.....I got 17" wheels too ;D so next time you and Skippy want to go wheeling............. ;D, bring
your tyres!!!!

Enjoyed myself the other weekend......better than a retirement home! ;D ;D ;D


They would look super uber sexy under your heep.

Thinking of running fox air shocks up front, just trying to factor in cost etc etc, money is my current limiter so until i hit a high streak and stop goin out and spending all my coin on beer and woman, its gonna be slow goin :)

Might have to start selling afew toys :( , stereo (home theatre), RC crawler, the buckshots (mudders) are already up for sale.

The sooner i get sum $$$ the sooner i can complete all the bar work, rear tray and start the exo cage.

Hopefully have afew more pics to post up this weekend comin.

And would be real nice to have it drivable to take a trip to LCMP for WEROCK in a fortnight.

[micka]

Guess what Grimace.....I got 17" wheels too ;D so next time you and Skippy want to go wheeling............. ;D, bring
your tyres!!!!

Enjoyed myself the other weekend......better than a retirement home! ;D ;D ;D


They would look super uber sexy under your heep.

Thinking of running fox air shocks up front, just trying to factor in cost etc etc, money is my current limiter so until i hit a high streak and stop goin out and spending all my coin on beer and woman, its gonna be slow goin :)

Might have to start selling afew toys :( , stereo (home theatre), RC crawler, the buckshots (mudders) are already up for sale.

The sooner i get sum $$$ the sooner i can complete all the bar work, rear tray and start the exo cage.

Hopefully have afew more pics to post up this weekend comin.

And would be real nice to have it drivable to take a trip to LCMP for WEROCK in a fortnight.



BWAAHHAAAHHHAAAA ;D ;D ;D

As if it will be ready by then.

Then again :-\...its not you doing the work, so there is a possibility.

I am so tempted to reveal the secret location in Jimboomba :-X

Micka

Not a hilux or Zook boy?? ::)

[brooksy]

I am so tempted to reveal the secret location in Jimboomba :-X

Micka



PM me the secret location Micka ......no one will know....... :-X


brooksy

[Grimace]

Brooksy ill prob head out there this saturday. Ill Pm you so as you can come see wats goin down.

I am scraping the airshock idea as the current airshocks are not gonne be upto the job.
A new style of airshock is due to be on the market end of the year (secret squirel) so until then ill just run coils and long arse 16" procomp shocks front and rear ;D

I am trying to obtain sum second hand coil overs or airshock though, so as to just temp and trial the front end out with em.

Here is a similar project to mine, only difference is i will always run the doors and have a part roof aswell as a part tray (not full tube rear)
http://www.flexedout.com/projects/LandRover/img/100_0980.jpg
http://www.flexedout.com/projects/LandRover/img/100_0983.jpg
http://www.cartertuned.com/pbb3.jpg
http://www.cartertuned.com/pbb4.jpg
Ill also be running larger tyres and wider stance and a touch longer wheelbase ;)
And my exo cage will be less eyeball intrusive.

[Sim79]

Very nice set up. Looks like a WEAPON

[brooksy]

Hey Grimace ,
have you spoken to Mick Gerard about Brothers Offroad.
Mick & I are getting Brothers Offroad to do some bar work & sliders, I'm getting suspension as well his name is Glenn. It's just a family business & he builds Land Rover competition trucks as well as all 4wd mods.
He has a 90" Defender that is his old comp. truck but he is building a chopped ute back '95 Disco that I am going to help him get ready before November. He has this 500HP V8 going in it with full cage bobbed rear that he's not sure if he will make tube tray or just naked.
Have a talk to Mick & if you need anything done keep them in mind as he may become a member of the GCLRC might be handy in club rep. in competitions ??

brooksy

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Brooksy - never herd of brothers offroad, but hopefully I can get intouch with them sumtime to have a look at their buildups.

No doubt theirs will be 100% better than mine (as mines is all booty fab) and the $$$ factor wont play into it asmuch for them, so should be good for me to see how to go about it when i decide to start spending more $$$ fine tuning everything.

Where about is this Brother Offroad located? I goin to hopefully check out a nissan diff, coil overed, chopped rangie tis arfternoon, wanna see as much as i can so i can decide if i am goin about it all the right way.

Not doin the airshock thing anymore, gonna wait till the new style (Australian Made) air shock is released ;) then i might give them ago ;D would luv to do coil over front but the $$$ atm are just not permitting.
Next years tax return will be spent on coilovers (for the front) if i dont already have em ;D\

In the mean time i am just trying to sell off all my junk to keep funds above the high tide mark :(

Hopefully will have the front end all sorted out and in this weekend and get started on the rear, will try get sum snap shots to post up ;D

Cheers
Anthony

P.S. Brooksy you have PM ;)

[brooksy]

Hey Grimace,

Glenn is situated in Capalaba at 3/9 Merrit st, his ph. no. 3245 1722. He is one of the most helpful & genuine guys you will meet.
I think he would be interested in your ideas & he could maybe help out with certain things. He is very competitive in his pricing as he doesn't have large overheads & isn't interested in getting to big.
He isn't pig headed & try & tell you what to do, he would rather give suggestions & things to lookout for & he isn't too proud to learn either.
Give him a call & pick his brain or maybe once you've spoken to him e-mail your work-in-progress & he might help if he can.

brooksy

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http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/8505/front04small6dr.jpg
front 3link - panhard and steering arms yet to be introduced.

looking good mate!

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Thanks Rangie_Dude

veiwing the diffs from front, is a turn on, there is absolutely no links hanging below the tube height 8) w00t w00t.

Getting real clucky bout coil overs, and am hoping to find/learn sum ideas from afew others whom are into the same style of mods. (Glenn ;) )

The front lower links will prob end up being fixed lengths and the upper becoming fully adjustable.
Just not 100% sure if i wanna push the front diff forward a inch or two or not. Once i find a nice spot for it that alows nice unhindered flex, ill prob make solid lowers.
The adjustables will become spares (just incase).

At first impressions it seems to flex all to easy 8) but it has no panhard ATM.

Ill be posting all the arm lengths and heights etc etc and the figure i have for anti dive (in the front) once i have it all worked out.

The crossmember and clearance for the upper link should be interesting (hopefully have pics soon) and a full underbelly skid is on the cards.

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Well :'(

Getting coil overs :'(

why am i crying you ask :'(

$1250 each :'(

16" 2.5 King Coil Overs with remote resevoir. Dual rate kit and 200 over 400 coils :'(

The 2 coil overs alone will cost more than the entire custom link setup front and rear :'(

I HATE THIS HOBBIE >:(

[86MUD]

HI Grimace...

I usually hang around the outerlimits website, but it doesn't seem to be working at the moment...

I am interested to know who made your radius arms.

Be interesting to see how your set up goes...it is an awesome job so far.

I have an 86 Rangie that I sink all my pay into...am just in the process of getting a set of 35" simex...wheels are at the powder coaters now. I am worried that the rear trailling arms might bend.

Cheers

Andrew

[micka]

HI Grimace...

I usually hang around the outerlimits website, but it doesn't seem to be working at the moment...

I am interested to know who made your radius arms.

Be interesting to see how your set up goes...it is an awesome job so far.

I have an 86 Rangie that I sink all my pay into...am just in the process of getting a set of 35" simex...wheels are at the powder coaters now. I am worried that the rear trailling arms might bend.

Cheers

Andrew


Dude,

You wont bend these with 35" Simex.

If you want, I can build you some trailing arms that will not bend and can crank them to suit whatever lift you have.

I have the Scorpion arms in mine and I can build them as a replica of them...but heaps stronger.

Micka

Well :'(

Getting coil overs :'(

why am i crying you ask :'(

$1250 each :'(

16" 2.5 King Coil Overs with remote resevoir. Dual rate kit and 200 over 400 coils :'(

The 2 coil overs alone will cost more than the entire custom link setup front and rear :'(

I HATE THIS HOBBIE >:(

Ouch! Keep ya chin up thou she looks like she's goin to be a strong bitch!

[brooksy]

Looking good Anthony !!

Can't wait to see it in action on one of the club days. :o

brooksy

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Custom crossmember for upper front link mount is complete but its looking like it gonna be abit tight for space so might have to re-arange the front end :(
http://www.buds4x4.com/outerlimits/rover_3.jpg
http://www.buds4x4.com/outerlimits/rover_4.jpg
http://www.buds4x4.com/outerlimits/rover_5.jpg
you can see in the last pic where the dirveshaft passes through the upper link mount.... its a tight fit.

Work has started on the rear and ill be out there this weekend coming to tear the whole arse end of (finally).

[Grimace]

HI Grimace...

I am interested to know who made your radius arms.


I dont have any radius arms any more.... If you mean the front lower (or upper) links. My mate is doin all the work.
Its 32NB Schedule 160 seamlesspipe (6.45mm wall).


I have an 86 Rangie that I sink all my pay into...am just in the process of getting a set of 35" simex...wheels are at the powder coaters now. I am worried that the rear trailling arms might bend.


d00d them rear trailing arms are a piss weak excuse for a link, definately get them addressed as soon as posibble, I bent mine on 33" mud terrains.

I would rather spend abit of time strengthening them up then having the whole arse end fail and destroy shocks and pinions and shafts while its at it.

Also the standard upper ball joint mount can be a weak spot and has been known to tear from the diff :o

Cheers
Anthony

P.S. Id be hitting micka up for the links he is gonna be making, they should be plenty strong. ;)

[Gojeep]

Looking forward to seeing it in and how it all works out. Great work so far with nice link separation.

Your fab works looking nice Anthony well done! ;D

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front bar 95% finsh, the coil overs are going to be mounted with two bars goin through the radiator support panel from the stinger to the chassis in the rear of the engine bay.
Upper coil over mount will prutrude approx 4" through the bonnet

taking the aircond and useless rads out of the way to get the winch as far back as possible (and closer to over the front diff)
http://www.buds4x4.com/outerlimits/rover_6.jpg

Bar setup and winch in, lightforces still to go on and metal plate to cover winch and fill in the blanks to be made up.
http://www.buds4x4.com/outerlimits/rover_7.jpg

[86MUD]

Geez...that is a work of art...

Did you keep the engine radiator in the same position?

Are you far off getting it back on the road?

Cheers

Andrew

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Geez...that is a work of art...

Did you keep the engine radiator in the same position?

Are you far off getting it back on the road?

Cheers

Andrew


Engine and radiator are stock position.
Aircond is being turned into endless air so that rad was removed. Fitting aftermarket trans cooler in rear with small thermo so that was removed.
Coil overs wont arrive for atleast 4 weeks, and alot of stuff still to be done.
Already talking about completely changing the front end link setup :(

Hopefully picking up the Iroks and 17x9 rims by the end of this week, so ill be able to sort out the modification to the front guards (inners) for maximum flex (uptravel).

Goin slow, and alot of changes had been made since we started, and thinking about pushing the front diff forward 2" now aswell.
So with the rear back 8", the new wheel base will be around 110".

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here is another pic of the front at a better angle
Note the edge of the pic (side borders) is about where i think the iroks will end. So hopefully stance shouldnt be to much of a problem 8)
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/5301/rrfront7yq.jpg

Hey Anthony u got a side on pic of your bar? Just wanna see how much of a stinger u have got goin there! ;D

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Hey Anthony u got a side on pic of your bar? Just wanna see how much of a stinger u have got goin there! ;D


http://img477.imageshack.us/img477/5017/grim0023ls.jpg
i like the approach.

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well Aza (my mate) kindly drove and picked up the iroks for me on saturday :o they r HUGE
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4946/iroks7qc.png

With them test fitted to the front (at about 4" spring lift) this is wat it looked like ;D
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4085/rrfront1ds.png

So the guards had about 2-3" clearance :o so a new chop was made to the guards ;D
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4994/frontguard3df.png

All up abit of progress and a random photo.
http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4301/rr12xi.png
The rear panels glass and tailgate have been removed (tailgate & glass for sale cheap) the inner panel has been chopped and fuel tank has been removed.
Exhaust is out and also for sale.
Hopefully next week the whole back end will be nice and clean and gooone ready for the rear end links to begin.

Re: The front - alot of customisation shall begin to get as much uptravel as possible with the huge rubber. Wont be much but at the moment its got about 5" on bump travel and 2" (if that) under articulation travel.

The ride height at the moment is def low and fat, car is slightly wider than it is tall - about 1950 wide by 1900 tall (with 30psi in the tyres) so it will prob be brough up another inch and I may be getting the wheels offset a further 2" while i get the mechanical beadlocks fitted (not sure on that one yet).
But if it all goes ahead as per the above description the POS should be about 2050mm Wide and 1950mm tall 8)

I would also like to take this oppourtunity to thank Ryan from Fourbys ( http://www.fourbys.com.au/ ) whom has really done his best to look after me and goone out of his way many a times to help others and give endless amounts of info. Thanks again.

[Ryano]

Aww shucks!! :-[

:-* :-* Share the love!

Hugs and kisses,
Ryano
;) ;D

Glad I could help. They are sweet looking, rather large tyres. Should add a bit more fun to your wheeling.

[midnight]

*edited, just found out info*

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Aww shucks!! :-[

:-* :-* Share the love!

Hugs and kisses,
Ryano
;) ;D

Glad I could help. They are sweet looking, rather large tyres. Should add a bit more fun to your wheeling.


heya, I didnt even knwo you was on this forum.
Anytime mate.

Re: the front end, I think the bonnet is gonna recieve sum surgery 8)

[Ryano]

I'm everywhere..... I see everything. ;) ;D

The rangy looks a lot different to when I saw it last.
How are you going to keep those big things covered?
Why didn't you mod the Sigma???

Cheers,
Ryano

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I'm everywhere..... I see everything. ;) ;D

The rangy looks a lot different to when I saw it last.
How are you going to keep those big things covered?
Why didn't you mod the Sigma???

Cheers,
Ryano


The sigma has been on its last legs ever since takin it to landcruiser.... the steering is loose, the struts are fawked, the busher are flogged :(

The car will have a full exo and the only time them tyres will be on it is when its offroad. There will be rubber from the bonnet to the exo tube over the front tyres and in the rear ill have sum flaps hangin off the tray. They Iroks will never be completely covered but i doin my best.

[Ryano]

So the poor old Sigma is ready for retirement?

Lot of work you're putting in there Big Fella.
Hope it doesn't give you too much more grief. ;D

I think I have sourced some 245/70R16 Highways that you asked me about. I'll let you know this arvo.

Cheers,
Ryano

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rear end is off (chassis rails remaining) waiting for discussion with engineer to deside on the rear chassis chop and new spring perch and shock mounts etc etc.

Pic and more details hopefully to be added soon.

Cheers
Anthony

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pics
The rear tyre is sitting pretty close to where the rear diff is to be resituated too.
Short tray will end in line with the end of the tyres, and prob have custom slip on style mudflaps (yet to be discussed)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/8127/rear017fm.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/1559/rearchassis014tt.jpg
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/9169/rear029vw.jpg

rear diff (not complete, obviously)
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/538/reardiff017qc.jpg

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following is a very dodgy paint designed rear tray and exo cage for the vehicle
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/8420/dodgyexo3aw.jpg
Am looking at using 4" pipe fot the tray sides and main hoop, then 32NB pipe for everything else.

[brooksy]

With the sunshine on the passenger fr. door you should paint the exo cage purple, looks cooolll :-X :-X

brooksy

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With the sunshine on the passenger fr. door you should paint the exo cage purple, looks cooolll :-X :-X

brooksy


the whole car will be painted eventually ;)
all bar work is to be plain black, I am not a fan of fancy coloured accessories..... but i like coloured and happy looking panels ;D

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8)
http://img377.imageshack.us/img377/3983/cimg00819fd.jpg

is that a P@@$$ pump? :o :-X


























;) ;D

[brooksy]

Mate I have a FAT !!! :-X :-X
What was the damage on 4 of those babies ??
Are they Foxxies ?

brooksy

is that a P@@$$ pump? :o :-X

























;) ;D

Settle Down Hazza! :P Looking good Anthony very BLING! ;D

[Grimace]

Mate I have a FAT !!! :-X :-X
What was the damage on 4 of those babies ??
Are they Foxxies ?

brooksy


damage..... more than the rest of the car is worth.

They are King Coilovers with dual rate 400 over 200 lb spring.
Gas charged.

[brooksy]

Mate I have a FAT !!! :-X :-X
What was the damage on 4 of those babies ??
Are they Foxxies ?

brooksy


damage..... more than the rest of the car is worth.

They are King Coilovers with dual rate 400 over 200 lb spring.
Gas charged.


" NICE "

I seen that a lot of the Paris Dakar comp vehicles run those shocks. They must be the goods !!!!!


brooksy

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finally getting sum progress on the front end. Coil overs arnt fitted yet, but the design intergrating the front bar and the chassis in the engine bay to house the coil over mount is sorted.

Bonnet catch is goone, pins need to be installed on the support tubes, also the cutout for the tube is to be rounded, and the coil over mount will be protruding throught the bonnet 8)

sorry pic quality isnt the best.
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5576/pic0012mc.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7656/pic0024yq.jpg
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9269/pic0076ny.jpg

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just got afew more better quality photos.
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/6269/frontsupport032ch.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9307/frontbar030bu.jpg

Another of the front b4 pulling it all apart and fitting the supports for the coil overs
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/3096/frontbar022xx.jpg

[.::lil-oscar::.]

WOW!! The things that happen when you don't check a users thread for a few months. Grimmy it's looking unreal. I love the custom painting on the panel...did kylie do it?

Is this beast gonna be ready for us all to check out at tuff truck??
Keep the updates coming :D

[Grimace]

WOW!! The things that happen when you don't check a users thread for a few months. Grimmy it's looking unreal. I love the custom painting on the panel...did kylie do it?

Is this beast gonna be ready for us all to check out at tuff truck??
Keep the updates coming :D


it will be ready by tough truck but i wont have enough $$$ to do much with it >:(
I would luv to bring it down to break sum centres but i just dont think i will have anywhere near enough $$$ :'(

Cheers
Anthony

P.S. beleive it or not, Kylie was not the artist for the door, it was actually my mate Skippy.... :) Hence why it says skippy below the pretty sun.

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not really sumthing thats underway just yet, but when i get around to the full custom front inner wheel wells along with the bonnet surgery i was thinkin sumthing along these lines.... only obviously neeter B)
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/1074/tubeside4vp.jpg

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Afew more recent shots :D

Front end is bein changed yet again (barwork, not suspension).
This is the final mounts for the coil overs.
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3856/hgi0057yp.jpg
the brace had to be raised and now sits out side the bonnet :o

Take note the coil overs are not screwed to minimum height and this is the result :o a very tall range rover :-X
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/3191/hgi0085ac.jpg
Ill be srewing it up about 3" and will be getting smaller rate secondary springs ;)

The guard height should be 5" lower than it is at present in the following pic
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/7880/hgi0093aw.jpg
From this pic you can see the rather unhappy looking body panels :-\

I have got four complete doors from an older model rangie that i will be fitting, the current doors will be chopped into half doors and bogged and painted to suit the rest of the vehicle ;)

The bonnet cut out is rather large
http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5748/hgi0079yx.jpg
not sure weather to fit the remote resevoirs for the coil overs out side on the top or not????
Will try and and see wat it looks like for abit (maybe).

AND WAT ABOUT THE REAR ? ? ?
lets just say teh plans have changed and more chassis was chopped :D
http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/7940/hgi0026vq.jpg
thats all you get for now ;) 8)

[Gojeep]

Good to see that the project is still alive.
Be interesting to see how the rear turns out.

[TUFFRANGIE]

Hey mate who did you buy the coilovers off and what length did you go 14in?

Cheers
Rob

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Hey mate who did you buy the coilovers off and what length did you go 14in?

Cheers
Rob


Coil overs are from Adrian @ Rangie Automotive...
He prefers to deal in 14" and smaller as the springs are easier to obtain (exspecially when you need different rates in a hurry).

I got Kings cause they are pretty much the best money can buy and i thought if i am gonna spend big ill buy big and get the most out of it.

They are 16" travel, 2.5" Remote resevoir units with at present 200 over 400 spring rate. ITS TALL and the ride adjustement will have to be set to the minimum.

In the end i beleive i will have around 5" spring lift (compared to standard rover) and its about 11" higher (in total) than a stock rangie. The vehicles total track (width) however will be almost 2 feet wider than standard.