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Casper
06-09-2003, 05:05 PM
looking at putting a line of lights and some work lights on the roof of my patrol but have herd its not legal. does any one know the rulling in QLD for roof lights...want them for night runs and when i drive between western nsw and brissy
I believe there is a federal law, [though I have never checked federal but is case in Vic] where no white forward facing light is allowed above the centre line of the vehicles standard headlights.
Isuzuki
06-09-2003, 07:45 PM
Mister PLOD got me one night with them on he wasnt nice ether, anyhow yes there is a hight limit from the ground up to center light (dont quot me on this) about 1250 mm max in QLD think NSW the same
baby_troupe
06-09-2003, 08:46 PM
I am pretty sure NSW is no light can be above bonnet line.
FUN-TOY
07-09-2003, 09:35 AM
well, if theyre illegal, obvsly theyre not worth to put up no matter how damn good the look. But you always can put 3 lights as big as 240 lightforce between the headlights (maybe need to modify the bar a bit)its up to you to choose between the Blitz or HID. And then on top of that you put the new HID product to replace your headlight. Although only available on low beam right now....but I think combine with your 3 lights on the bar are enough to make people think that a train coming on their way.
Happy lightning, mate. 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
mud magnet
07-09-2003, 10:46 AM
"Bugger"
I was going to put four KC Daylighters on the rear bar but i
may need to r-think my options. Then again what the hell i
might be a "Bad Boy" and do it anyway. 8)
Those Lightforce 240 HID are terrific lights its a shame they
so bloody expensive. We get customers come in and want
a set of HID's but think they only retail for around $400.00
a pair until i tell them $1250.00 each there response is there
not worth that price. :o
the 240 blitz is the $400 spend which is worth having though, but 3 on the bar might just stop the radiator from doing it function to the fullest, or worse still the intercooler :o
Casper
07-09-2003, 02:48 PM
you mention that you cant have white light face forward but if i put fog covers on them and just change them over to the clear when offroad will that be ok or should i make a detachable bar and put it on for the night runs only
i will be puting the lightforce 170s accross the roof as ama(my supplier) are a light force dealer
cuttin loose
07-09-2003, 06:45 PM
If it's illegal to have lights above the bonnet, how come all the utes can put them on the top of their roll bar????
;D ;D ;D
FUN-TOY
08-09-2003, 01:00 AM
you mention that you cant have white light face forward but if i put fog covers on them and just change them over to the clear when offroad will that be ok or should i make a detachable bar and put it on for the night runs only.
I think we are talking about white light facing forward on the roofbar is illegal....only when they are on. So it is safe to drive around (either with or without the fog cover) and you turn them on when offroad
FUN-TOY
08-09-2003, 01:04 AM
If it's illegal to have lights above the bonnet, how come all the utes can put them on the top of their roll bar????
;D ;D ;D
it is legal as long as you dont switch them on...on road
FUN-TOY
08-09-2003, 01:09 AM
the 240 blitz is the $400 spend which is worth having though, but 3 on the bar might just stop the radiator from doing it function to the fullest, or worse still the intercooler :o
as I mention above the bar need abit of mod...either for the lights mounting system, intercooler problem etc.
After all in mod world if there is a will (in this matter...if there is something to stick onto ur 4wd), there is always away ;D
FUN-TOY
08-09-2003, 01:19 AM
"Bugger"
Those Lightforce 240 HID are terrific lights its a shame they
so bloody expensive. We get customers come in and want
a set of HID's but think they only retail for around $400.00
a pair until i tell them $1250.00 each there response is there
not worth that price. :o
Sorry mate, to the next customer you should take them for a night drive to compare blitz and HID. They are worth every cents.
I used to think light is light, as along as you grab any of the 100 watt halogen. I was wrong...I thought the same way too about HID's price until they told me 1700 for each of the hella predator.
Curiosity kill the cat.... ;)After a few test drive, I was convinced.
But I got better light, the lightforce HID instead of the Hellas. Better price too. Back then they had outback challenge promotion. I think I took home for $1000 each.
But as far as my wife knowledge they are ....yep $400 ;D ;D ;D
Easiest way to get around the height restriction (at least in VIC) is to have each light mounted on a swivel and have them wired independently from the high beam system. Work lights are legal to any height you require so if the lights are mounted onto some sort of swivel they can be deemed as work lights. Of course the swivel will be used rarely if at all but if mister plod pulls you up you can jump out and (hopefully) turn them around to show they are a work light, problem solved.
Casper
10-09-2003, 05:55 PM
thanks all i think ill go ahead with putting them on
IH8WORKIN
15-09-2003, 09:55 AM
I've got a light bar on my 80 series with 4 front facing white lights. From what I had been led to beleive from other forums, as long as the lights are seperately switched, and they have covers on them whilst on the road, there is no problem. As suggested in another quote, they are then considered work lights.
Still, who really knows until you get told otherwise. When I set mine up, I made the bar so that I could remove it at any time, and have a three pin connector under the bonnet. So two bolts and one connector and Im in business again. Still havent taken them off since I put em up though, just looks toogood to take off.
Heyder
15-09-2003, 11:49 PM
There is no law against them in QLD.. I don't know about any Federal laws though.. You do have to have them in pairs but that's about it..
landyman
16-09-2003, 06:34 PM
the new jeep has lights perm. mounted on the roof... Surely they would have looked into this before releasing the vehicles... they would also have to pass the ADR's so they must be legal
big red
16-09-2003, 08:48 PM
qld rules.....
Additional pairs of headlights, showing a beam of white light only, may be fitted and must not affect the drivers view.
the headlights must be mounted symmetrically.
additional high beam headlights must extinguish automatically when low beam is selected.
A pair of foglights, showing a beam of white or yellow light, may be fitted to the front of a motor vehicle with the centres no higher than the top of the dipped beam headlight.
the lamps must be mounted symmetrically not less than 600mm apart.
Fog lights must be capable of being switched on and off independently of any headlights but must only be able to be switched on when the parking lights are on.
fog lights must not be used except in fog or mist or under other atmospheric conditions which restrict visibility.
or in other words...what heyder said ;D
shane
RobertM
17-09-2003, 09:54 AM
All those cars with the 2nd set of lights down low like the WRX can be switched on by themselves and that makes them illegal in NSW. I have had a mate that was pulled over by police about them but got off because they were fitted like that from the factory and checked out with the RTA and they said they were illegal to?
So I don't know how they got past the ADRs?
cuttin loose
17-09-2003, 01:06 PM
just rang the RTA here for NSW..
apparently you can have driving lights on the bullbar/rollbar so long as they are symetrical and they turn off when your high beams turn off..
are the wrx lights used for high beam driving lights?? if so they're the same as above.... anywhere so long as they don't blind you and you can switch them off..
anyways, i'm goin shoppin.. ;D ;D ;D
BigBugga
17-09-2003, 03:31 PM
Go for it.
Light up the night
Get enough of them and you wont need a BBQ, can cook the bunny's on the light's ;D
RobertM
17-09-2003, 04:17 PM
The WRX ones are on a different switch. I think you need the lights on but they are not hooked up to the high/low beam switch and the new HSV's driving lights are on if you turn the lights on apparently
cuttin loose
17-09-2003, 04:23 PM
some of those lights are classified as low-beam lights, that why they can put them down there... so long as they don't project higher than the low beams they're ok...i spose so you don't blind the poor bastard comin your way... ;D
grungle99
17-09-2003, 04:26 PM
Mate of mine got booked for having spotties on the loading board on the HQ 1 Tonner - (pointing forward) and they were not even wired up at the time......
I beleive the NSW Rule is one of the following
1. Not above Bonnet Line
or
2. Not above the centre line of the existing headlights.
Either way it depends on the uniforms as to the problems.
RobertM
17-09-2003, 04:27 PM
They do blind you that is the problem. I wouldn't care if they didn't but they piss me off. I feel like turning the spotties on on them. ::)
cuttin loose
19-09-2003, 05:07 PM
why not... they might realise they're sposed to turn the damned things off... ;D
lilgirl
28-09-2003, 08:48 PM
OMG Statue you think they piss you off try being in a lower car and have some one in a 4WD and they sit there with all there lights on thinking they own the road..
If i am driving you don't want to do it b/c you'll find yourself doing less then 60 in a 100km zone, and i make sure they don't pass ontil they get the bloody message to TURN YOUR LIGHTS OFF...spotties are for OFF ROAD ppl if you need them on road then GET YOUR EYES TESTED..
Ok i feel better now that i had my say heehee ;D
So are they on your car yet or want?? heehee
baby_troupe
28-09-2003, 09:04 PM
OMG Statue you think they piss you off try being in a lower car and have some one in a 4WD and they sit there with all there lights on thinking they own the road..
If i am driving you don't want to do it b/c you'll find yourself doing less then 60 in a 100km zone, and i make sure they don't pass ontil they get the bloody message to TURN YOUR LIGHTS OFF...spotties are for OFF ROAD ppl if you need them on road then GET YOUR EYES TESTED..
Ok i feel better now that i had my say heehee ;D
So are they on your car yet or want?? heehee
I use my Spotties on road.
I don't have roof lights, just a spread beam & a pencil beam.
At 100 km/h on dark highways, I like to make sure I don't miss anything that could cause damage, so I use them.
When another vehicle approaches I dip, if they don't, I flash, if they still don't dip, I turn them all on again & don't dip until they do.
BTW I have 20/20 vision.
RobertM
29-09-2003, 10:19 AM
Lilgirl I drive my wifes Mazda 121 and am affected more by these lights than the Rangie and if you think that the lights on the 121 are alright by themselves any where out side of suburbia then you must have good night vision. The Rangie isn't to bad as I have upgraded to a set of hella head lights.
Couldn't agree more with what BT said.
cuttin loose
29-09-2003, 12:51 PM
yeah i'm with BT on that one too... ;D
cuttin loose
29-09-2003, 12:52 PM
hate to say it, but when you're on the highway in the middle of the night, some of the truckies are the worst villans..
lilgirl
13-10-2003, 05:21 PM
Hey Casper
Have you got your lights on yet?? Wouldn't might seeing how they look or how you go with getting them put on!!
Bikie
13-10-2003, 06:17 PM
Must say I agree with BT too.
Casper
13-10-2003, 06:42 PM
no i havent put themon yet but they will be on soon.... ive had problems finding time to put them on....will post photos of it soon
just bought a set of blitz 240's gunna have to modify the bull bar on the lux to fit them in. allready have set on the top aof the bull bar but 240 is way to big, won be able to see over the bonnet
lovemud
30-11-2003, 11:19 PM
I got set of lightforce blitz 240'they are a awsome light its worth every cent ;D.very happy with the light 8)
Fenring
01-12-2003, 01:26 PM
They are so bloody BIG tho. No way I can put them on my bar without them sticking way out in front, ready to catch any little sapling thay might get in the road. Otherwise I'd love a set. Will definitely look at a set of the 170's for my next truck. I'm considering mounting a 2nd set of lights. Already have a set of 175 Narva pencils in the middle. Thinking about a pair of compact 100 watt spreaders cut into the bottom of the bullbar to give a wider spread for those little Kangaroo attacks from the side.....
I have a set of no name brand driving lights on the rodeo, they were there when i purchased it...... to be honest, i have spent more money on far better lights on other vehicles and they aren't any better than the ones i use now.... all i need is a set of 95/100w globes for the factory lights..... and i will have all the highway light i need ;D
If it's illegal to have lights above the bonnet, how come all the utes can put them on the top of their roll bar????
;D ;D ;D
it is legal as long as you dont switch them on...on road
I bet a young fellow that works for a mate of mine would disagree...his wallet was lightened somewhat due to his roll bar mounted lights...and it was in the day time.
Am I the only one that finds the amount of light reflecting down through the windscreen particularly annoying?
I have a set of no name brand driving lights on the rodeo, they were there when i purchased it...... to be honest, i have spent more money on far better lights on other vehicles and they aren't any better than the ones i use now.... all i need is a set of 95/100w globes for the factory lights..... and i will have all the highway light i need ;D
I have the IPF loom, bulbs and reflectors upgraded in my 80 series and together with the Lightforce 240's I have never had the pleasure of using a better setup for night driving.....fantastic.
USERNAME
30-12-2003, 06:42 PM
hey a guy my 4x4 club has a row going across the roof on hi rangie and he just takes them off when not needed
turbo gu
30-12-2003, 10:50 PM
when you wire up the lights put a plug in the leads some where easy to get out on the roof and leave them unplugged untill you need them. that way if a copper pulls you over you can show him they aren't plugged in thus they won't work and you should be right.
hoppa
01-01-2004, 08:40 PM
I got pulled over for roof mounted lights and Mr Plod said no lights can be higher than 1.4m above ground. My mate looked into it with QLD Transport and they said as long as they are separately switched and coverd with non-transparent covers whilst in town there should be no problem. I don't know what other states do, but my mate has had no problems in the last 8months since fitting the roof lights.
I found with my roof lights that the reflecting light of the bonnet was too distracting so I pulled them off.
Thats my 2 cents.
toddy
03-01-2004, 07:28 AM
I got pulled over for roof mounted lights and Mr Plod said no lights can be higher than 1.4m above ground. My mate looked into it with QLD Transport and they said as long as they are separately switched and coverd with non-transparent covers whilst in town there should be no problem. I don't know what other states do, but my mate has had no problems in the last 8months since fitting the roof lights.
I found with my roof lights that the reflecting light of the bonnet was too distracting so I pulled them off.
Thats my 2 cents.
can i ask what lights you were using?
how far back from the windscreen were they set at?
hoppa
03-01-2004, 02:10 PM
I was using rectangular Hella spots, recessed about 0.5m from the windscreen. I thought about using a deflector of sorts to stop the scattered beam, but when I got pulled over I lost interest.
Mad Cruiser
19-01-2004, 06:23 PM
I've got a light bar on my 80 series with 4 front facing white lights. From what I had been led to beleive from other forums, as long as the lights are seperately switched, and they have covers on them whilst on the road, there is no problem. As suggested in another quote, they are then considered work lights.
Still, who really knows until you get told otherwise. When I set mine up, I made the bar so that I could remove it at any time, and have a three pin connector under the bonnet. So two bolts and one connector and Im in business again. Still havent taken them off since I put em up though, just looks toogood to take off.
I just installed my lightbar on the roof of my 80 series cruiser with 7 rectangular spotlights attached wired up using a 50amp wire with connectors on roofline so i can disconnect and remove from roof. Hooked up to a 50amp relay and fuse with seperate light switch mounted on lower dash parts. I also have adjustable swivel covers on my spotlights so whenever driving around locally i just turn the covers down and up when in the bush !
My advice is to work out how many amps your spotlights are going to draw before doing the wiring and relay. This was my mistake so i had to start all over again.
I don't think it is illegial at all..... ;)
adza75
26-01-2004, 02:18 PM
Well I wonder how these people who have been booked stand legally?
The new Nissan X-Trail ST-R (I believe it's limited) came out with halogen lights integrated in the roof rack....
It can not possibly be illegal if manufacturers are making cars with these.
i think one of the new jeeps have a similar setup :o
Mad Cruiser
05-03-2004, 05:10 PM
Anybody got pics of their light bar set ups????
I'll post one or two ! :D
http://www.offroader.com.au/overlander/Landcruiser1.jpg
http://www.offroader.com.au/overlander/James at LCMP 2.jpg
do you have 3 alternators to run those lights?? LOL :o :o
zook37
05-03-2004, 06:59 PM
:o Bet you love it when someone high beams you at night on the highway, those puppies would burn the paint off the bonnet! ;D
Posted by: zook37 Posted on: Today at 06:59:11pm
Bet you love it when someone high beams you at night on the highway, those puppies would burn the paint off the bonnet!
Gotta love those friendly persuaders ;D
FUN-TOY
07-03-2004, 02:08 AM
thats front set up, can you show us the rear set up? sometimes the rear one is as important as the front one when you forget when to stop driving for the night ;)
I don't know about any Federal laws though..
Just FYI:
Basically all relevant legislation will be state or territory-based, not Commonwealth.
As far as I can tell, there's only two Commonwealth Acts to do with motor vehicles: the 'Motor Vehicle Standards Act 1989' and the 'Commonwealth Motor Vehicles (Liabilty) Act 1959'. The former deals with stuff like importing, compliancing and administration, while the latter is fairly self-explanatory.
So you really only need to worry about legislation in the state or territory you live in.
turboplandcruiser
08-03-2004, 03:35 PM
if leagalism really matters just take the lights off during work days
As far as lights go HID is the way to go if money is no object ;D ;D
Mad Cruiser
08-03-2004, 04:48 PM
do you have 3 alternators to run those lights?? LOL :o :o
Nah just make sure you've got bigger wiring and bigger relays to handle all those spotlights !
Love it when someone leaves their highbeams on and i'll give em a quick full blast of lights....... Love the look on their faces when they go past !!!! ;D
i once had a HG Premier with 150 watt aircraft lights in the high beam lights.... they were pencil beams...... and they were very effective when people refused to turn their high beam off ;D
BLU-125
08-03-2004, 09:10 PM
Mad Cruiser,
The last person I gave that treatment to was Splodge, the president of our local 4wd club - in his BA work ute. Had to dig out the mobile to apologise.
Mad Cruiser
08-03-2004, 09:49 PM
Ouch, hope you sent around some beers to his place the following day ! ;D
BLU-125
08-03-2004, 10:20 PM
I did invite him around to the shop, but being a Maverick driver he finds it hard to associate with those of us who drive vehicles who came 3rd in the Oz GP.
Can't remember where the green Fords came in the GP, (of course, Webber retired) or who was the first Ford in the Touring Cars. Was it Bargs back in 6th or 7th?
Wasn't it a great weekend for Renault/Nissan!
http://www.the-shed.net/images/634_shepard_rear_view.jpg
Could always do a light bar like this one, which folds down out of harms way, when not needed, and easily folded up when needed.
BOBA74
15-03-2004, 10:02 PM
Geez Mad Cruiser, anyone'd think it's a UFO coming over the horizon and pull over to hide.
BushBoy
17-03-2004, 10:02 PM
How about that one in the Tufftruck Video who rolled onto his nice big LightForce lights.........ouch :P :'(
i had a driver one night with their spotties on coming towards me, he didn't dip so i flashed, still didn't dip so i left my spotties on and so did he.......... f***king prick >:(
(was driving my dads troopy)
2 BRUTAL
19-03-2004, 10:23 PM
Bush boy that was mark cheeseman or cheesy racing as he's known.
I just got my SWB MQ registered on wednesday and it had 4 x10" bull lights on the roll cage when i took it to be inspected. they didn't even look at the car so i have no worries. i also have heard that as long as you have them in pairs it is not a problem, every man and his dog has them on there roll cages. i think the cops aren't too worried as long as you don't use them in close to towns.
ferremit
28-03-2004, 11:00 PM
hate to say it, but when you're on the highway in the middle of the night, some of the truckies are the worst villans..
And no matter what you do, theyre lights are always brighter than yours :(
I found i could only run my spots for a limited time on the hay plain.
You would be dipping them for oncoming vehicles, but you had to dip your lights 5kms in advance (truckies let you know when your blinding them) Then you would pull up behind a truck, have to dip your lights for the next 10kms it took to slowly creep up and over take him, then you put your spots on and repeat process.
Was shocking, cos the rodeo only has 65-70s headlight bulbs, so i couldnt see squat when i was pulling up behind them!
cuttin loose
29-03-2004, 12:52 PM
maybe it's time for a quick an easy headlight bulb upgrade.... ;D ;D ;D
the lightforce's i've got on the front of mine are great on the highways at 2am in the morning....reckon they must light up at least a km or so of road... ;D ;D ;D
Fenring
29-03-2004, 01:02 PM
God, that Yank truck has 5 Hella Predators on the top. Must be nice to have a bit of kanga. Has anyone ever tried using big sealed beam units, and if so how did they go???
HeathGQ
30-03-2004, 03:35 PM
Australian Design Rules (ADR). Headlights no higher than 1300mm from ground to centre of light.
QLD - as Big Red said. - must be symetrical.
Casper
30-03-2004, 05:58 PM
have gotten around to doing the job yet but will one day. gee that looks pretty good. was the second photo taken at landcruiser mp looks like near the pig pen.
a friend had some lights on his roll bar over cab(in QLD) got pulled over and given a ticket for them.....the reason....they werent wired up!!!!!!
kitch76
21-04-2004, 12:02 AM
Well I wonder how these people who have been booked stand legally?
The new Nissan X-Trail ST-R (I believe it's limited) came out with halogen lights integrated in the roof rack....
It can not possibly be illegal if manufacturers are making cars with these.
Car manufacturers have a diferent rule book to us. Eg the new Toyota Klugger has tinted windows standard on the better models excluding the 2 front wind ups and it is darker than T35 (Darkest legal in QLD) My boss has even gone to QLD Transport and they told him this was the case. He's just bought one and tinted all the windows including the factory tinted ones in T20 it looks sick. They are just black. on the original subject, there is a guy in Toowoomba who makes rally car light pods. Not cheep though ($400-$500? I've been told) but they remove realy easy with only 4 bolts and you dont have to reset the alignment of the lights each time you put them on.
dogbreath_48
24-04-2004, 12:26 PM
Looking through 'Vehicle Standards Information No. 10' (Victoria), I cannot find any limits to the height of high beam, driving lights or additional lights. Only the following statements apply:
'3. Position
Pairs of lamps shall be fitted symmetrically (same position on both sides of vehicle).
The light emitted shall not cause the driver discomfort either directly or indirectly through the rear view mirror and/or other reflecting surfaces of the vehicle.
When there are two pairs of headlamps, one pair which function as main-beam headlamps only may swivel according to the angle of lock of the steering about a substantially vertical surface.'
and
'3.2 Height:
No individual specifications'
A height limit is only applied to low beam lights, at 500mm (bottom) to 1200mm (top).
but maybe i missed something, so check it out for yourselves:
'Vehicle Standards Information No. 10' (http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrne/vrninte.nsf/alldocs/1E9B8E6A50CB9A21CA256E0D000D5B0F?OpenDocument&Area =)
See Section 6 and 7.
It looks like we're pretty safe in victoria...tell me if you find otherwise!
-Stu :)
Victoria is far more lenient in those aspects than the rest of the country. I'm pretty sure you can only legally use lights on the highway that are mounted no higher than the centreline of your headlights.... no probs using them off-road... but i'm certian the highway is a no-no
dogbreath_48
25-04-2004, 09:52 PM
Victoria is far more lenient in those aspects than the rest of the country. I'm pretty sure you can only legally use lights on the highway that are mounted no higher than the centreline of your headlights.... no probs using them off-road... but i'm certian the highway is a no-no
Surely a set of bright lights on the bar will be just as blinding as lights on the roof (on the highway). I figure if it's not illegal to have them on the vehical, it can't be illegal to use them, so long as you treat them in the same respect as high beams (of which it is illegal not to 'dip')...or is that exactly what you'r getting at RoeDao, that they are legal in VIC? I figure that as long as the use is fair on other road users, there shouldn't be a problem...
-Stu :)
Mid73
26-04-2004, 09:50 PM
Just but the light on the roof and if the cops pull youup for them just point to the light that are on there siren bar.
dogbreath_48
27-04-2004, 09:36 AM
Just but the light on the roof and if the cops pull youup for them just point to the light that are on there siren bar.
Unfortunately, that's covered in the Vehical Standards information too....you even need permission to put an orange flashing light on your roof (in victoria at least)
-Stu :)
flappan
27-04-2004, 10:59 AM
This is something we have seen argued with.
3.3 Length:
At the front of the vehicle and facing forward.
The roof isn't the front of the vehicle.
Whilst I believe they are OK , and NSW RTA seem to agree , it depends on who you speak to. You can get different answers all the time.
dogbreath_48
27-04-2004, 02:41 PM
This is something we have seen argued with.
3.3 Length:
At the front of the vehicle and facing forward.
The roof isn't the front of the vehicle.
Whilst I believe they are OK , and NSW RTA seem to agree , it depends on who you speak to. You can get different answers all the time.
...that's a danm good point...
-Stu :)
SiKiD
09-05-2004, 11:13 AM
not sure if you guys have settled this yet. but i live in darwin, and i have a mate who had a light bar on his jeep wrangler, and yes, it looked sweet. one night he got pulled over, same ol story, got ticketed, payed the fine, etc. etc.
but upon renewing his rego for the year, he found that if he registered his jeep as a 'modified vehicle', by some means he was able to have 'modifications' to his jeep, and would some how be legal.
i would say there would be some fees involved with this, and works similar to an engineers certificate, stating that its all legit and legal, or allowed!
now he drives 24/7 with lights across the top of his jeep.
still gets pulled over, but no more tickets.
also i know theres a lot of holden and ford utes, (feral utes) that the ruruls (cowboys) have, that have the biggest possible spotties you can find on their roll bars and also on their 5 poster bull bars, also illegal!
and just for that last comment, no offense intended to anyone who may be offended.
just thought this might be interesting.
take it easy fellas.
Smitty
14-05-2004, 01:30 PM
Here's a pic of mine - only 2 x targa (Narva), but I have 2 x Gas Discharge lights on the Bull Bar which melt the road ahead of you . . . . very bright.
http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=68[ /img]
Got caught about a month ago, two bull lights on the roll bar .100 metres from the hair dryer.Got told "Any lights above the level of the high beam (headlights) is illegal.
The speeding cost me $650 ,but I didnt get a defect!! AHHH. Nice policeman.
heathgu
18-05-2004, 11:44 PM
Well the officer that got me stated that no more than 6 forward facing white lights (includes head lights)and 2m above ground was his argument. $70 and 2 demerit points later what do you do.
dogbreath_48
19-05-2004, 10:27 AM
Got caught about a month ago, two bull lights on the roll bar .100 metres from the hair dryer.Got told "Any lights above the level of the high beam (headlights) is illegal.
The speeding cost me $650 ,but I didnt get a defect!! AHHH. Nice policeman.
$650! What state are you in? in VIC you'd have to be doing like...200km/h!
-Stu :)
143 thru roadworks @ midnight.
dandownunder
20-05-2004, 03:32 PM
I'ge got 4x100watters on my roof rack, have done for almost three years now and never had a problem.
http://www.hiluxsurf.net/Images/dijeep1
only ever use them off road or when were off the beaten track at night, vastly improve the stock lights. They sort of blend into the roof rack though, so maybe there not noticed as much and they do have a grid stone cover on them, which I've heard is allowed if your lights can be covered up ?! ::)
cheers
Dan.
dogbreath_48
20-05-2004, 09:58 PM
143 thru roadworks @ midnight.
...that'll do it. I guess it was pretty dangerous to all the workers out there at midnight...
-Stu :)
heathgu
21-05-2004, 03:17 AM
This is my light bar mod to meet law requirements folds down to face back good for people who get close.
http://www.4x4world.com.au/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=81
cheers heath
Hoonz
21-05-2004, 11:50 PM
I have been told by QDOT that i can have roof mounted spotlights and they gave me the light specs to go with it
toddy
22-05-2004, 06:58 AM
i live in south oz and recently fitted four lightforce 240 blitz's onto a bar on the roof. i havent had any cops show a great deal of interest, other than "what the hell do you need all that light for?"
people have told that me they're illegal on the roof, not allowed to have any more that six forward facing lights etc etc etc. i think its a load of wank.
late last year the legislation changed in SA allowing you to have lights on the roof, and if this weren't true, well how in the hell do all the bundy utes get away with it?
Phat Mav
23-05-2004, 10:31 PM
What do you do with the wiring for lights on the roof????
How do you run it?
Patrick
Bushbasher
09-12-2004, 11:43 AM
:D :D I have found on the Qld Transport web site the ruling on spotlight mounting and I Quote :
"" Note that main (high) beam headlight under the ADR's, and now under TO(RUMMS-VSS), may be fitted at any height above the ground compared to the previous height of 0.6 m to 1.4 m in the 'Traffic Regulation 1962'. "" unquote.
8) 8)Therefore as long as the lights have a seperate switch and are connected to the High Beam circuit only there is no problem. 8) 8)
This information was sourced from the " AIS Code of Practice Section 3 " on the Qld Transport website. :D :D
westvictoriaPATROL
09-12-2004, 03:43 PM
I havnt read all the posts but i was going to do the same thing. Depends on what sort of driving you do because i only didnt do it cos i would have smashed them all on trees by now. I was talking to a bloke who has them on his roof on a commodore ute and he reconds they are a pian in the arse because the reflect everywhere and ya cant see shit. They light up the whole cabin and shit
crankycruiser
09-12-2004, 05:40 PM
I havnt read all the posts but i was going to do the same thing. Depends on what sort of driving you do because i only didnt do it cos i would have smashed them all on trees by now. I was talking to a bloke who has them on his roof on a commodore ute and he reconds they are a pian in the arse because the reflect everywhere and ya cant see shit. They light up the whole cabin and shit
I have lights on the roof of my cruiser and they r great...
trick is don't put them behind the cab otherwise they will light up in the cab or just tint ur windows real dark..
I have mine above the door pillar.. best place for them..
As for the trees u just have to keep ur eyes open
BushTuckerNed
09-12-2004, 09:16 PM
I cant wait to get my four on the roof. Ill be up to 8 by then
Rubs hand together
HeathGQ
10-12-2004, 08:40 AM
just got my 4 on the roof of the GQ - removable, and on two seperate circuits so the centre two are seperate to teh outer 2, which are pointed outward a bit. awesome. Only 4x100W Hella' but they do the job.
gqtrav
11-12-2004, 01:55 PM
My mate has six on the roof of his rangie, the police pulled him over and said that six was too many, only alowed either two or four (needs to be kept in pairs) on the roof, he took two off and since then his had no trouble. I also have four on the roof of my GQ and a mate has two on the roof of his GQ and we've had no trouble. this is in Vic.
De-lux
13-01-2005, 03:50 PM
here is mine. i have been fined $30 for using my roof spotties in a built up area.
http://rockcrawlingqld.com/forums/files/doin_nothin.jpg
cuttin loose
13-01-2005, 04:11 PM
here's my setup..
still working on the dual battery system so they're just there for show at the moment...
Hopefully this month will have them working... ;D ;D
http://www.4wdlinks.com.au/albums/lachie82/aal.sized.jpg
BushTuckerNed
13-01-2005, 04:14 PM
My mechanic told me i cant put any more on unless i get a bigger alt :'( But i can put 4 more narva ultima ones on the roof i can run them for ten minutes YAY!! Note: Sarcasm
cuttin loose
14-01-2005, 02:41 PM
sounds like you need a lower amperage draw from your lights...
ever thought about using a capacitor?? like they use in the car stereo's??
wonder if that would work...
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