has anyone used this product

[dustbuster]

Cost Effective Maintenance - Flushing Oil Concentrate (http://www.costeffective.com.au/prod03.htm)

Have seen this product advertised many times in the 4wd monthly magazine and am wondering if any has used it and was it any good. Does it live up to what its makers claim any advice would be appreciated as am looking at puttting it in the cruiser which has 333000 thousand k on the clock. Cheers.

[Ragster]

Have seen a few threads around regarding this. No real definitive answer if I recall - try a search..............I have been thinking about trying it on my GQ tho......

[Patrolling Paddy]

There is definately a thread or two with the same question and the opinions for either side of the fence on wether it is any good or not.

I have used it and with no negative symptoms to date.
The amount of crud it with flush from your engine will be dependant on how bad it is now. Not too bad, not much to flush out. Really built up may take a couple of attempts.

The only thing I was worried about was that it may loosen something up and make the engine run worse. At the end of the day you are probably thinking about using it cause you engine is suspect of being on it's way out and this is the cheaper alternative. If this is the cause then a engine rebuild is on the cards anyway and worst case your engine fails, well you were going to rebuild anyway. Right?

I've used and was happy, it didn't remove 'heaps' of crud so I am assuming there wasn't much to flush out, and the engine oil was still golden brown and clear for about 2 weeks after using it.


PP

[dustbuster]

no the motor i beleive is still kicking along fine, i was just curious that was all. the old girl still sits on 120k crusing along blows litlle or no smoke. bought it from an old guy who had looked after it pretty well reg serviced and spent the money on things that nedded to be done.

[Two Up]

PP,
You said that your oil was still golden brown a couple of weeks after using the flushing concentrate, my oil turns jet black 3 seconds after changing the oil, has done so since I bought the truck 13 years ago.

[causeIcan]

Used it on my GU patrol last year 140k, and the car definatelly ran better. I got more crap out of the sump than the sump should hold. After the treatment the oil stayed clean all the way to the next service. I was so impressed that i used it on my International 80hp 4wd tractor and have had the same result. (Very rare for a tractor 20 years old to run clean oil). Highly recomended and i am not a lover of after market addetives, but i had nothing to lose when testing on the GU. (was using oil and dirty within minutes of oil change)

[Patrolling Paddy]

PP,
You said that your oil was still golden brown a couple of weeks after using the flushing concentrate, my oil turns jet black 3 seconds after changing the oil, has done so since I bought the truck 13 years ago.


Because this stuff flushed alot of the soot and carbon sludge from my engine it took a couple of weeks for the oil to become black again instead of the usual minute/instant.
Because my engine is a bit older and has had a hard life the oil did become black again but this is also due to the nature of the diesel and the design of the oil.
Would I use it again? Yes, but it isn't something that I will use every time only due to the additional cost on top of an already costly service.

PP

[Blokemanx]

My old man was an old school WWII mechanic, then an engineer for BP.
He reckoned if the engine had crap in it from neglect, your choices were to dismantle the engine and clean it properly, or more sensibly leave it where it is.
I imagine he was thinking of crud that's loosened by the process, but not flushed out. Some oil galleries are pretty small...

[net555]

I used it on my 300 000km 80 sries 1 hz, no negatives or positives to date, in my experience it was a waste of money. No crap came out so it made me feel good that I have maybe been doin the right thing by my truck but other than that the oil stayed gold for maybe a few more hours of running than normal. That was it though, no better fuel consumption, no cooler running, no smoother or rougher etc etc

[Patrolos]

My mate used it in his Lux and it started burning oil. Then I used it in my GQ and now its using heaps of oil. Prior to using it I never had to top up the oil.
I should have listened to my mate.

[Gooch]

I was speaking to a mate of mine when i considered using this treatment and he being an engine builder told me not to do it as it will loosen any crud or other material you have around your piston rings which may cause it to smoke and use oil he said to forget about it as it would only cause more problems. So i listened to him and have stuck to my 5k services and my troll runs a dream.

[91GQ]

What type of dollars are we talking about here???

Whoa never mind found it...

[trains]

One thing worth noting about increased oil burn after flushing is this.

Most times, the initial flush only moves away most, but not all the gunk/ hardened carbon depsoits/ burnt oil around the rings, which is what stops the rings from effectively working.
Thus at this point, you notice smoke, oil consumption etc.

If you continue to use oil that will eventually dissolve this carbon build up, and eventually free the rings and allow them to work, then your oil burn issue reduces a considerable amount.

As you know most oil control rings are a thin ring top, then the spacer, and then the thin bottom ring, this becomes clogged with carbon deposits, and just dosent work.

Using diesel oil in pettys eventually dissolves this, however most dont bother, and pull the motor down and find the rings all stuck solid with carbon.

Same with Diesels, the rings get carboned up.
Frequent changes, so that the oil does not reach saturation point, and thus still able to dissolve, and hold this stuff in suspention is the key.

Hope you find that of some help.

I have saved quite a number of motors from rebuilds by patience with allowing the oil to do its job.

Trains

[Grass'hoppa]

G'day Mate...

As a Mechanic over the years i've seen mixed results with products like this. Engines with high k's get carbon built up behind the rings.... these engine flush's do a good job, but removing this carbon can more often than not cause your engine to use more oil and compression is reduced slightly. Piston rings not only wear but with age loose there tension and the carbon behind the rings, is sometimes better left alone. I think flush's are great! But probably better suited to prevention rater than cure. Hope this helps..... Cheers!