any one put new brake pads in the 80 series

[redskee]

hey guys i bought new pads for my 80 series landcruiser its a 91 model ive got the pads but the other day one of my mates said that the front of the 80 series are hard to do if u have never done them before but he said the back ones are easy much like the commodore ones can any one tell me if they are really hard to do coz i dont wanna screw the car up an does any one have a guide to do it or should i just use my gregories manual:waycool::waycool::waycool::waycool::waycool ::waycool:

[Beattie]

Why are you doing brake work if your not a qualifyed mechanic or under supervision? As on July it will be illigal to do this kind of thing, just like you cant do your own electrical work without a ticket. These are your barkes! Your family and others are at risk, oh and you too.

Fronts are easy either way but still you shouldnt be doing it!

[phippsy77]

Why are you doing brake work if your not a qualifyed mechanic or under supervision? As on July it will be illigal to do this kind of thing, just like you cant do your own electrical work without a ticket. These are your barkes! Your family and others are at risk, oh and you too.

Fronts are easy either way but still you shouldnt be doing it!

wtf... most people do work on their own fourbies without being a mechanic. He's trying to learn, what's the problem with replacing some brake pads and getting some advice.

[KRUZIN]

As on July it will be illigal to do this kind of thing, just like you cant do your own electrical work without a ticket.




WTF..:eek::eek:.. i'm a qualified mechanic tho i dont work in the trade anymore.

if i can fix the brakes in a stieger tractor with 24" disc's, or a hydraulically operated multiple disc wet brake set up out of a 20ton cotton picker....i WILL be doing the pissant easy brakes on my own car.

does anyone else know about this rule?

[HDJ105]

hey guys i bought new pads for my 80 series landcruiser its a 91 model ive got the pads but the other day one of my mates said that the front of the 80 series are hard to do if u have never done them before

The fronts are easier than the rears, as essentially all you need is a pair of pliers and a large screw driver.

Remove the clip and 2 pins, use the screwdriver to lever the old pad to the fully retracted position, slide out the old pad, slide the new one in paying carefull attention to the location of the squeal tab and shims, repeat for other side.

But beware, as others have said if you are not confident in what you are doing DON'T DO IT YOURSELF!

[Beattie]

WTF..:eek::eek:.. i'm a qualified mechanic tho i dont work in the trade anymore.

if i can fix the brakes in a stieger tractor with 24" disc's, or a hydraulically operated multiple disc wet brake set up out of a 20ton cotton picker....i WILL be doing the pissant easy brakes on my own car.

does anyone else know about this rule?

We have had countless documents etc sent to our workplace since the end of last year saying this is going to happen from the MTA. Photo ID mechanics licences have even been received by all the mechanics i know (im very shorly becoming qualifyed).

Have a look around the MTA websight im sure there is info on there.

[Red04VXE]

For NSW from
Licensing - NSW Office of Fair Trading (http://www.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/Tradespeople/Motor_repairers_and_insurers/Licensing.html)
Who needs to be licensed?

If you carry on the business of repairing motor vehicles then you must hold a repairer’s licence. This includes part-time work, mobile work and subcontractors and includes working in a partnership or as a company.
If you are not carrying on a business and only repair vehicles owned by yourself, or your family or friends and do not receive any payment or reward for your work, then you do not need to have a licence.
Commercial vehicle owners

Commercial vehicle owners who repair only their own motor vehicles do not require a licence. If, however, they repair other vehicles, say for subcontractors, for a fee, gain or reward, then they do need to be licensed.
How do you obtain a licence?

To be granted a licence you must:

be at least 18 years of age
be a fit and proper person
employ tradespeople who hold tradesperson certificates and/or be certificated yourself
have sufficient financial resources to carry on the business.
You can obtain an application form and further information on the repairer’s licence from the Business Licence Information Service (BLIS) (http://blis.fairtrading.nsw.gov.au/).

[Red04VXE]

For WA What is motor vehicle repair work - Consumer Protection - DOCEP (http://www.docep.wa.gov.au/ConsumerProtection/Content/Motor_Vehicles/Repairers/What_is_motor_vehicle_repair_w.html)

What is motor vehicle repair work?

Under the Motor Vehicle Repairers Act 2003, a business will require a licence to carry out repair work on motor vehicles and a business owner who works on vehicles, a supervising tradesperson or a person who carries out repair work unsupervised, will require a repairer’s certificate approved by the Motor Vehicles Industry Board (http://www.docep.wa.gov.au/ConsumerProtection/Content/Motor_Vehicles/Dealers/Motor%20Vehicle%20Industry%20Board/index.htm).
From 19 March 2007 the Board has been receiving applications from individual tradespersons for repairer certificates.
Businesses will not be required to apply for a licence until July 2008.
Most types of motor vehicle repair work (known as classes of repair work (http://www.docep.wa.gov.au/ConsumerProtection/Content/Motor_Vehicles/Repairers/Motor_vehicle_repairers_certificate/Classes_of_repair_work.html)) are covered by the Act.
For the purposes of this Act, repair work includes different activities which are carried out in motor vehicle repair workshops, including:

examining motor vehicles;
diagnosing and detecting faults in motor vehicles;
adjusting, servicing and maintaining motor vehicles;
overhauling motor vehicles;
replacing components of motor vehicles;
modifying and altering motor vehicles; and
painting or treating the surfaces of motor vehicles. However, although most types of repair work are included, some (such as window tinting) are not.
While repairers of most types of motor vehicles will require a certificate, those who repair agricultural machinery (tractors, combines, seeders etc) will not.
Repairers of vehicles which carry persons or goods will require a certificate.
Repairers of a goods trailer which has brakes will require a repairer's certificate.
Repairers of plant and equipment, bobcats, cranes, ride-on mowers, farm equipment, boats, bicycles or similar are not included in this definition.

[Red04VXE]

Motor Trades Association Queensland (MTAQ) (http://www.mtaq.com.au/training/FAQ.aspx#licencetypes)

And QLD

[redskee]

hmmm sounds like a tricky one then i think ill giv it a crak this long weekend i dont carry any one in it besides its now a two seater hha so before i actually do it do u reckon i can actually screw it up by the way im a pretty laid back guy so if i screw it up its not like im gunna be screamming in anger ill probbally just laugh

[Beattie]

hmmm sounds like a tricky one then i think ill giv it a crak this long weekend i dont carry any one in it besides its now a two seater hha so before i actually do it do u reckon i can actually screw it up by the way im a pretty laid back guy so if i screw it up its not like im gunna be screamming in anger ill probbally just laugh

But im sure the family of the little girl you hit wont laugh...

Cheers for finding that Red04VXE! Everybody who isnt in the trade doubts it and thinks its a crock of shite. We're only looking after our industry and your safety!

[redskee]

nah i dont plan on hittin any little girls

[cammo]

cars are easy to work on, im not a mechanic but i now do all my own work on my 4wd because when i pay a mechanic to fix something they normally stuff it up!

as long as your brakes look the same when you finish as they did when you started, all the bolts are done up and lines are still attached you will be fine!
mate you should have a go.. you know when you have stuffed up and if you double check it, you wont be finding out half way down the road!!
less hitting a little girl.
you will be right go for it mate!

[nilla60]

hmmm sounds like a tricky one then i think ill giv it a crak this long weekend i dont carry any one in it besides its now a two seater hha so before i actually do it do u reckon i can actually screw it up by the way im a pretty laid back guy so if i screw it up its not like im gunna be screamming in anger ill probbally just laugh
Mum's Nissan had really weird rear discs. You couldn't just clamp the pots back in as they had some dumb trick that I can't remember.

Hope the state fun police aren't putting home car repairs onto their agenda next. Trucks, fishing, guns, hunting, chainsaws, boats, the list just keeps growing.

[V6Bundy]

What is motor vehicle repair work?

Under the Motor Vehicle Repairers Act 2003, a business will require a licence to carry out repair work on motor vehicles and a business owner who works on vehicles, a supervising tradesperson or a person who carries out repair work unsupervised, will require a repairer’s certificate approved by the Motor Vehicles Industry Board (http://www.docep.wa.gov.au/ConsumerProtection/Content/Motor_Vehicles/Dealers/Motor%20Vehicle%20Industry%20Board/index.htm).

As per every law in Australia, it is open for interpretation. I read the above as a single statement. Meaning, the unsupervised person under the employment of a business that carries out motor vehicle repairs, requires a licence.
If they were referring to any Joe Blow doing motor vehicle repairs at home it would specifically state that.

Thats just my interpretation tho... ;)

[V6Bundy]

Also..

"For the purposes of this Act, repair work includes different activities which are carried out in motor vehicle repair workshops"

These laws have been brought in to protect comsumers from being ripped off by back yard mechanics. Hence the name of the act -

What is motor vehicle repair work - Consumer Protection - DOCEP (http://www.docep.wa.gov.au/ConsumerProtection/Content/Motor_Vehicles/Repairers/What_is_motor_vehicle_repair_w.html)


BTW I like using BOLD

[blkcruiser]

I think what your saying in a perfect world would be great Beattie. But i hold a trade cert, not a mecanic trade but the amount of time i have tried to pay someone to do a job on my pride and joy and have a day off working only to find the dodgy arse son of a bitch doing the job f#@ks your car and then wants to f#@ks you when he asks for the bill. Do not even bother telling me to try another mechanic because i have done it many times only to be disapointed. I would much prefer working my day job doing overtime and paying professional mechainics to do the job but where im located they don;t seem to be working........

Just my few cents worth

[Thomo80]

I just bought my mates 80 series from him and he had just replaced the front brake pads. I will ask him at work on Monday and find out if he had any major dramas and try and get back to you.