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bundy_R9
21-01-2008, 06:56 PM
I was wondering if someone could help me, i dont want to pay thousands of dollars just yet for a lift kit and would like to do some decent 4x4ing but my torsion bars are wouned all the way up and they wont let me do much with out loosing traction:cry: should i put longer arms in the front so i can have the same hight as now and get traction if someone can guide me in the cheap and right direction it would be good

KRUZIN
22-01-2008, 09:10 AM
longer arms???????????????????????????????

just how high is it wound up? you might be sitting on your upper bump stop.

this means you will have no suspension down travel when you go over bumps, also makes the car ride & handle like a billycart with steel wheels.

i cut my upper bump stops down a bit to get more suspension travel, BUT BE AWARE this also dramatically increases loading on your CV's.

have you tried a balljoint flip? this will give you a bit more travel.

other than tyre size this is about all you can do without spending megabux, i ran 31's on mine but lots of people run 33's on rodeos with no hassles

bundy_R9
22-01-2008, 11:46 AM
yeah sorry i should of said upper control arms but going by prices on the snake racing web site its not gonna hapen for a while.thats the one when we wound it up my friend said it was just missing the bump stops.
is it worth cutting them and would it take long before my cv's went as i don't get out very often with work ,the handbrake and all sowould fliping my ball joint be a safer option or would both be fine both

KRUZIN
22-01-2008, 12:00 PM
do both would give the most travel.

BUT even just raising the vehicle will always have your cv's working at a sharper angle.

i only went 4wd'ing a few times after cutting the bump stops down & had no cv issues.

bundy_R9
22-01-2008, 05:36 PM
my mechanic reckons that you cant realy do a balljoint flip as they are tapered on one edge or somthing like that but i think i will give the bump stop a bit of a chop thanks heaps kruzin really appreaciate the help

Nig
22-01-2008, 07:50 PM
The balljoint flip doesnt turn it upside down so the taper in the spindle isnt an issue - you just move the ball joint from sitting on top of the top arm to underneath it - with a spacer between it and the arm if you are serious about it

bundy_R9
22-01-2008, 08:11 PM
would it be hard to do my self have a few tools but am limited.
Do you know any one who has done this before or have you??

sudso
23-01-2008, 01:58 AM
I had it done but only because it had to be done. With the torsion bars wound so far up there was not enough adjustment left to correct the camber after lifting it but flipping the ball joints gave the difference back.
Had no cv or cv boot problems.

Have since lowered the front closer to standard, as Kruzin said, it rides like shit when it rides on bumpstops and it flogs your upper arm bushes out quick too.

Problem with some arm kits is that you need to lower your front diff too so the cv joints cant pivot beyond their safe working angles.

Save yourself a headache and money, a Lokka in the front diff will give you more traction than a couple inches of extra wheel travel with an open diff on any day.

Rodeo's are very robust rigs but were never really built with medium to hardcore chassis twisting wheel articulating tracks in mind.
Superior on anything else though :D

cheers

bundy_R9
23-01-2008, 04:26 PM
cool thanx for all the usefull info guys

Ducky103
24-01-2008, 01:29 PM
If you still have the original shock absorbers fitted they will limit the amount the front wheels will drop. when i unbolted the upper shock bolt i found i got another 25mm of drop at the front wheel. the ball joint flip will get about another 10-15mm of travel.

bundy_R9
24-01-2008, 06:06 PM
If you still have the original shock absorbers fitted they will limit the amount the front wheels will drop. when i unbolted the upper shock bolt i found i got another 25mm of drop at the front wheel. the ball joint flip will get about another 10-15mm of travel.


so what your saying is that longer front shocks will also help??

Ducky103
30-01-2008, 01:49 PM
so what your saying is that longer front shocks will also help??

Longer front shocks are the go.:thumb:

bundy_R9
31-01-2008, 07:10 AM
done the flip and some new shocks yesterday rides alot better than what it did now i just need somewhere to test it thanx all really appreciate it :way cool:

bundy_R9
31-01-2008, 07:13 AM
done the flip and some new shocks yesterday rides alot better than what it did now i just need somewhere to test it thanx all really appreciate it :way cool:
ha im such a fool that was supposed to be :waycool: