Dingo Attack on Fraser

[AJC]

Was the dingo attack on the 4 yr old child because of people feeding them or is it because there are too many of them and they are starving?

[2 BRUTAL]

it has been blamed on people feeding them, and then when somebody refuses to give them food they become aggressive, but it is also mating season for them so they are a bit aggressive as it is.
personally, dingoes are a feral and declared pest on the mainland and it is against the law to keep 1 as a pet and you are allowed to destroy them on sight, but OH we go 10k's across the water and they have there own little sanctuary where they can do as they wish, they are a feral pest. they are not a native animal to this country so I see no need to protect them.

[grimbo]

Also you have a wild animal and people who justthink "Oooh look at the doggie" and expect it to behave like Spot at home. From whhat I can gather from thhe report the child jumped out of a car very close to the dingo, more than likely scaring it cauisng it to nip the kid to keep away

[babylux]

dingoes are a feral and declared pest on the mainland and it is against the law to keep 1 as a pet and you are allowed to destroy them on sight, but OH we go 10k's across the water and they have there own little sanctuary where they can do as they wish, they are a feral pest. they are not a native animal to this country so I see no need to protect them.

So because its a pest we should kill it? Because it hurts us it should die? Because its not from here it should die?
We (humans) have been feeding them for years and now its coming back to bite us on the bum.

[grimbo]

I didn't think Dingoes were considerd feral or a pest. Where did you get this info from? I was under the impression they were now considered an accepted part of Australian fauna due to their length of time here. very diferent to feral cats or boars etc. In some areas they are protected by law.

[Big Boots]

grimbo, you can have a read of this - http://www.feral.org.au/content/species/dog.cfm

[Sea-Dog]

I am a bit torn on the subject!!!

On one hand if it was my kid that was just jumped on and bit by a dingo in an unprovoked attack I would want to hunt it down and gut it...

(as a bit of a side subject all I heard was that the kid was near the car while dad was down at the water???? that sounds to me like dad was fishing and the kid was left at the car.. doesn't sound right.. does anyone know the full story of where the parents were and how the dog got to attack the kid in the first place?)

Then on the other hand, Fraser has alway (as long as I can remember anyway) been known to have wild dingoes and you have to be very wary of them... it is the most pure breed of dingo in Australia and to an extent it is a bit of an Aussie icon...

Should they all be culled? I don't think so.. should this one be destroyed? probably... we only get a very small portion of the information in relation to the story and even if this poor kid was just standing there and this dog came along and bit it we don't know what has happened over the past years with regard to human contact..

I have seen so many times where people will still try to give the cute doggie a bit of left over food or toss it over into the bush 20 feet away from the camp site... and for once it is not only the backpackers I will have a crack at here!!

What is the answer??? I bet I know what the EPA is thinking.. ban visitors to the island!

[grimbo]

and you can read this

http://www.pestanimal.crc.org.au/research/ipmfacts.htm

I was just wondering where the info they are officially considered a feral animal was. Because a farmer calling it feral and getting rid of them is different to them legally being deemed feral

[Big Boots]

I am under the impression they are protected on fraser (most things are in a national park). Having said that I would be quite happy to hunt them (legally) should the opportunity arrise.

[campdog]

What a load of Crap, you would have more chance of getting run over by a ferral 4b driver on fraser island, I suppose they should be erradicated too.


The dingo is Australia's wild dog. As the largest native carnivorous mammal in the country, it is a magnificent animal in its natural habitat and plays a vital role in maintaining the balance within ecosystems. The dingo's origin is uncertain, though scientists now believe that it is related to Asian and Middle Eastern wolves that probably arrived in Australia between 3,500 and 4,000 years ago,

Prior to European colonisation of Australia, dingos inhabited most parts of mainland Australia. However, in NSW most of the remaining dingo populations are found to the east of the state, in forests between the Great Dividing Range and the coast.
How long do you need to live in Qld to become a local.

[2 BRUTAL]

When the wild Brumbies were removed from Fraser a few years ago, the dingoes major food source was also taken with them, there is very few Brumbies left on the island.
A ready food source was never an issue for them with the Brumbies, but now they have to scavange, Kangaroos and Wallabies are also very scarce on the island, so there isnt a great deal of food for them now, they continue to breed and become aggressive, before that young kid was killed a few years ago, locals used to feed them at their back door, so of course they are going to get used to hand outs, and still today tourists think it is ok to give them scraps. The are cunning mungrels, on our last trip over there about 1 month ago, 5 of us were standing under and awning at Indian Head all looking in 1 direction, when 1 of our group turned around there was a dingo 6' away from us, he'd snuck right up to within 2m's of us and we didnt even know in broad daylight.
At Sandy Cape, we had a dingo dig up a turtles nest only 4m away from 1 of the blokes when he slept at night.
On the mainland you are permitted to destroy them on sight on rural land, so why do they receive special attention when they get 10k's across the water.
You can even claim a bounty when you destroy 1.

[campdog]

When the wild Brumbies were removed from Fraser a few years ago, the dingoes major food source was also taken with them, there is very few Brumbies left on the island.
A ready food source was never an issue for them with the Brumbies, but now they have to scavange, Kangaroos and Wallabies are also very scarce on the island, so there isnt a great deal of food for them now, they continue to breed and become aggressive, before that young kid was killed a few years ago, locals used to feed them at their back door, so of course they are going to get used to hand outs, and still today tourists think it is ok to give them scraps. The are cunning mungrels, on our last trip over there about 1 month ago, 5 of us were standing under and awning at Indian Head all looking in 1 direction, when 1 of our group turned around there was a dingo 6' away from us, he'd snuck right up to within 2m's of us and we didnt even know in broad daylight.
At Sandy Cape, we had a dingo dig up a turtles nest only 4m away from 1 of the blokes when he slept at night.
On the mainland you are permitted to destroy them on sight on rural land, so why do they receive special attention when they get 10k's across the water.
You can even claim a bounty when you destroy 1.

Maybe because they are in a national park of becauses they are not crossbreeding with wild dogs and remain a pure breed of dog.
they have a right to survive just like everyone else.

[2 BRUTAL]

I didn't think Dingoes were considerd feral or a pest. Where did you get this info from? I was under the impression they were now considered an accepted part of Australian fauna due to their length of time here. very diferent to feral cats or boars etc. In some areas they are protected by law.

here it is from the DNR web site,

http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/pests/pest_animals/index.html

[Googy]

I'd have no problems drilling them all but the do gooders always prevail. It's like the do gooders in south east Queensland let crocodiles breed unchecked and it won't be until crocs turn up in Morton Bay and are a danger to their way of life that something will be done about their numbers.

[Big Boots]

In particular this part - http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/pests/pest_animals/declared/index.html

I was talking to a ranger on bribie in feb about this, well hunting anyway. He told me, doesn't matter what it is, because its in a national park, it is protected.

[2 BRUTAL]

yes and if you happen to be a land owner who's property backs onto a National Park then you can only destroy them when they cross the fence.

[campdog]

I didn't think Dingoes were considerd feral or a pest. Where did you get this info from? I was under the impression they were now considered an accepted part of Australian fauna due to their length of time here. very diferent to feral cats or boars etc. In some areas they are protected by law.
I agree with you Grimbo, butwere going into their environment and backyard, so we could be ferrels and pests to them.

[grimbo]

In particular this part - http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/pests/pest_animals/declared/index.html

I was talking to a ranger on bribie in feb about this, well hunting anyway. He told me, doesn't matter what it is, because its in a national park, it is protected.

so it seems if they are interferring with stock or causing damage then they can be shot but not just because they are a dingo. Is that right?

I'm not trying to argue etc just that I thought from conversations with other people in Central Australia and Eastern Vic in the mountains that they were protected. I can understand farmers being able to protect livestock in actual danger from dingoes being able to shoot them but for hunters to hunt them for the hell of it I can't

[the_fatman]

i say erradicate kids off the island, educate them maybe, dont leave them unattended and remember the dogs have been there a lontime before any of us have so why should they be "evicted" or killed? they need food to just like us but they cant go to the shops n buy it can they....keep an eye on your kids and we can all get along side by side with the dingoes...i work beside them at the zoo and they are great animals, in the wild they are "wild" yes....we need to remember that but once you get to meet them close up (at the zoo) you will have a better appreciation for them....
P.S people kill and attack people everyday...should we kill off or erradicate them? food for thought
END RANT :P

[Big Boots]

so it seems if they are interferring with stock or causing damage then they can be shot but not just because they are a dingo. Is that right?

I'm not trying to argue etc just that I thought from conversations with other people in Central Australia and Eastern Vic in the mountains that they were protected. I can understand farmers being able to protect livestock in actual danger from dingoes being able to shoot them but for hunters to hunt them for the hell of it I can't

I can't speak on behalf of every other hunter, but I hunt to help land owners who don't seem to have the time/money/resourse (yes some of them hate shooting etc). We quite often get "geez I'm glad you blokes were able to come out. I've been too busy lately to do anything myself".

[Trojan]

It's not a good thing, but I look at it this way. We are going on to their land. The Dingoes are an icon of Fraser as much as anything else. So behave in a sensible way to protect yourself and kids from potential harm. If someone went swimming around Indian Head and got taken by a Tiger Shark, should the shark be killed? No, it's well known to have them their, so you don't go in the water there.

If the parent didn't have their eyes on the child enough to see a dingo close by, then we will never know exactly what the kid was doing and wether or not there was something that occured that made the dingo bite.

Watching the behaviour of some people on Fraser, i am surprised more people aren't attacked. I was standing on the beach near Eurong late in the afternoon, two dingoes were sitting in the grass, just off the beach, doing nothing much. A couple of 4WD's pull up, they get out with their kids, notice the dingoes, so start throwing shit at them and chasing them with cricket bats to clear them from the area.

I also witness some people on the beach with some dingoes lurking around in the grass, some lady drove past and started honking her horn, yelling and screaming to the people on the beach that there was a dingo near by.

Yet, i also filmed a dingo coming towards me. Everytime i moved slightly it flinched and would take a step back. It came to within about 2 meters of me, layed down, waited till a 4WD went past, got up kept going on it's way. Take that how you will, but any attacks i believe are because of human behaviour, wether it's from a previous incident, i think we have ourselves to blame.

[grimbo]

I can't speak on behalf of every other hunter, but I hunt to help land owners who don't seem to have the time/money/resourse (yes some of them hate shooting etc). We quite often get "geez I'm glad you blokes were able to come out. I've been too busy lately to do anything myself".

I don't have a problem with that but just a couple of guys deciding to go hunt them I have a problem with.

[campdog]

I'd have no problems drilling them all but the do gooders always prevail. It's like the do gooders in south east Queensland let crocodiles breed unchecked and it won't be until crocs turn up in Morton Bay and are a danger to their way of life that something will be done about their numbers.
Crocs, Dingoes,Sharks.stingrays,snakes and spiders, what else should we should we get rid of.
If you swim with crocs or sharks or play with spiders you get what you deserve.

[dirtygq]

humans are pests,when we see people taken by sharks we wanna go on a killing spree,we hate anything that acts naturally.What gives anyone the right to go shoot these animals ....ferals my ass.

[Chriso]

We have to remember that a dingo is a dog and that things in a dogs mind are black and white, there are no grey areas in a dogs world. A dog does not have the power of reasoning nor does it have the ability to decide what is right or wrong; they are simple animals and when you have an understanding of their psychie all becomes clear (sort of).
The dingo is and introduced species onto this continent and anyone that has lived in southeast Asia, in particular Indonesia and Timor will recognise(As is well documented) that dingoes originate from these areas.
As such, the Dingo is also an introduced species onto Fraser Island (K'Gari) by the Butchella people way before the white man set foot onto this great land.
BLAH BLAH BLAH you might say...AAH but read on:
The dingo see's any living thing as a possible meal source, wether it is a small child, carelessly disgarded food, fish bait or offerings from tourists.
A dingo does not know that attacking or ultimately killing a human being is wrong, it only sees the human as a food source. This is where it needs to all stop.
I was shocked to hear that the penalty for feeding or encouraging a dingo to feed was only about $260. This is appalling; the penalty should attract a term of inprisonment or greater financial penalty if lives are at stake.
I grew up in SE Qld and have regarded Fraser as my back yard, listening to my fathers stories of piss ups and fish the size of his old Landie being caught. I Recently spent ten days camped south of Ely Creek with wife and 5 month old daughter. Relaxation was not an option until I discouraged every Dingo I saw to 'Keep the FU*K away from that big bloke in the green nissan with the shanghai.
Without going on and on as I have already done (this is a passionate subject of mine) if every Dingo you saw regarded you as a threat, they would not go near humans and they would become as the Tassie Tiger...Rare and elusive and would ultimately survive, however if Governments will not implement greater penalties, I support the selective culling of dingoes...and foreign tourists.
GET ME ANOTHER RUM!

[scratcha]

Init funny that, when the koalas get culled for having a sexually transmitted deseise, nobody gives a rats arrse. Then again who wants to be caught out with a dirty bear;)

[Trojan]

I Recently spent ten days camped south of Ely Creek with wife and 5 month old daughter. Relaxation was not an option until I discouraged every Dingo I saw to 'Keep the FU*K away from that big bloke in the green nissan with the shanghai.

So you don't even think for a second that attacking an animal might piss it off and force it to attack you?

It's interesting how you mention penalties for feeding them, but your actions are illegal also and attract penalties.

How about just leaving them alone. Or better yet, not take a 5 month old baby to an area where there's a potential threat, or camp in a fenced area. Afterall, you're entering their environment.

[Googy]

Crocs, Dingoes,Sharks.stingrays,snakes and spiders, what else should we should we get rid of.
If you swim with crocs or sharks or play with spiders you get what you deserve.

Get a grip. When I was a kid I could go down to the local river and catch bait with a dragnet and you would be more scared of standing on a mud crab than anything else. Now you wouldn't go in there for quids. It's ok for you when the most fearsom critter down there in a bloody funnelweb and I bet you get the spray out when you find one in your camp. Geez.

[Chriso]

So you don't even think for a second that attacking an animal might piss it off and force it to attack you?

It's interesting how you mention penalties for feeding them, but your actions are illegal also and attract penalties.

How about just leaving them alone. Or better yet, not take a 5 month old baby to an area where there's a potential threat, or camp in a fenced area. Afterall, you're entering their environment.
Mate, it is obvious that you don't realise what you arwe on about, if a dingo see's us as a threat, they will stay away. If I want to take my 5 Month old daughter to fraser I bloody well will I don't need any clown like you telling me I shouldn't take my family there.
Lets think for a minute, you say that we are entering their environment...is it really their environment? Are my actions really to the detrement of the dingo or are they helping it to realise that humans are a threat and not a food source.

[Googy]

Mate, it is obvious that you don't realise what you arwe on about, if a dingo see's us as a threat, they will stay away. If I want to take my 5 Month old daughter to fraser I bloody well will I don't need any clown like you telling me I shouldn't take my family there.
Lets think for a minute, you say that we are entering their environment...is it really their environment? Are my actions really to the detrement of the dingo or are they helping it to realise that humans are a threat and not a food source.

Well said

[davidt81]

as per 2brutals response that you cannot have a dingo for a pet there is a dingo sanctuary at phesants nest in nsw where you can buy one for a pet

[Trojan]

Mate, it is obvious that you don't realise what you arwe on about, if a dingo see's us as a threat, they will stay away. If I want to take my 5 Month old daughter to fraser I bloody well will I don't need any clown like you telling me I shouldn't take my family there.
Lets think for a minute, you say that we are entering their environment...is it really their environment? Are my actions really to the detrement of the dingo or are they helping it to realise that humans are a threat and not a food source.

They don't look at Adults as a food source. It's you who is doing the attacking, not your 5 month old daughter, i am sure they can tell the difference between the two of which is the "threat". It's not uncommon for animals to go after the young of an animal that is a threat to them if you want to get down to the very basics animal actions. Thats not condoning any attck by a dingo, but attacking them isn't going to help. Your logic is flawed beyond belief.

The fact that they've been on the island for a little bit more then the 200 odd years we've been in this country, gives them a pretty good claim to that being their environment. What next, the snakes on the island shouldn't be their either? Or the Sharks in the water?

So one day you're happily attacking one and it attacks you, are you going to be a sook about it? Or maybe tell everyone it was unprovoked, just so no one finds out what you were up to? Why not do it in full view of a Ranger? i am sure he will happily let you be with your actions.

[crawla]

The world amazes me, the news the other night.........two men held a 14 year old boy for 3 weeks using him as a sex slave while plotting how to kill him and rid his body so they would never get caught after they had finished with him. Now lawyers are making money out of them trying to protect them and we end up as taxpayers supporting the gutter trash............yet a dog in it's natural habitat trying to survive gets shot for what happened.
No one will ever know, it's impossible but if that dog approached hoping to get a feed due to being fed in the past then how about we have a zero tolerance and start shooting people who feed the dingoes......and shoot the low life scumbags in the world like the two above.
When the hell will the stupid people of the world understand.....DON"T FEED THE &*^%#&# DINGOES..........DON"T ANNOY THE DINGOES ETC ETC ETC.......it can lead to problems like what happened.

My two cents......and bring back capital punishment.....shoot low life gutter trash not dogs:D the worlds gone mad!!!!

[2 BRUTAL]

as per 2brutals response that you cannot have a dingo for a pet there is a dingo sanctuary at phesants nest in nsw where you can buy one for a pet


I find that hard to believe is being done legally if you read this, it is prohibited for anyone to own a declared pest animal except under certain conditions, like zoos etc

http://www.nrw.qld.gov.au/pests/legislation/permits/index.html

even Steve Irwin in 1 of his documentaries stated that they are an introduced species and are not native to Australia.
As said above, they have been introduced from Asia.

[dirtygq]

The world amazes me, the news the other night.........two men held a 14 year old boy for 3 weeks using him as a sex slave while plotting how to kill him and rid his body so they would never get caught after they had finished with him. Now lawyers are making money out of them trying to protect them and we end up as taxpayers supporting the gutter trash............yet a dog in it's natural habitat trying to survive gets shot for what happened.
No one will ever know, it's impossible but if that dog approached hoping to get a feed due to being fed in the past then how about we have a zero tolerance and start shooting people who feed the dingoes......and shoot the low life scumbags in the world like the two above.
When the hell will the stupid people of the world understand.....DON"T FEED THE &*^%#&# DINGOES..........DON"T ANNOY THE DINGOES ETC ETC ETC.......it can lead to problems like what happened.

My two cents......and bring back capital punishment.....shoot low life gutter trash not dogs:D the worlds gone mad!!!!Agree 100% per cent some people are just itching to shoot anything that walks :rolleyes:

[Trojan]

I find that hard to believe is being done legally if you read this, it is prohibited for anyone to own a declared pest animal except under certain conditions, like zoos etc

In QLD that is the case, along with Tasmania and SA. Vic and NT require a permit to have them as a pet whilst NSW and WA do not.

even Steve Irwin in 1 of his documentaries stated that they are an introduced species and are not native to Australia.
As said above, they have been introduced from Asia.

But even at Australia Zoo in the Dingo enclosure on the wall it questions what is needed of an animal to be declared a native. I don't think they can simply be put in the same catergory as something like a Fox. How many years does it take? Aboriginals are immigrants aswell.

[Jeeps]

If you havn't been in this country for more than 100,000 years then you aren't a local ;)

[2 BRUTAL]

In QLD that is the case, along with Tasmania and SA. Vic and NT require a permit to have them as a pet whilst NSW and WA do not.



But even at Australia Zoo in the Dingo enclosure on the wall it questions what is needed of an animal to be declared a native. I don't think they can simply be put in the same catergory as something like a Fox. How many years does it take? Aboriginals are immigrants aswell.


I am not doubting the time they have been here, but they are a declared pest animal and cause millions of $$ a year damage to livestock and native animals competing for the same patch of turf.

[campdog]

Get a grip. When I was a kid I could go down to the local river and catch bait with a dragnet and you would be more scared of standing on a mud crab than anything else. Now you wouldn't go in there for quids. It's ok for you when the most fearsom critter down there in a bloody funnelweb and I bet you get the spray out when you find one in your camp. Geez.

So,you have crocs there, you chose to live there and so did the crocs,learn to live with them..
Its not illegal to spray a funnelweb,unless its a queensland spider.

[Trojan]

If you havn't been in this country for more than 100,000 years then you aren't a local ;)


OK, sweet, that clears that up. That means the Aborigines aren't local either.

[Trojan]

I am not doubting the time they have been here, but they are a declared pest animal and cause millions of $$ a year damage to livestock and native animals competing for the same patch of turf.

So how much livestock did Fraser Island Dingoes kill last year?

[2 BRUTAL]

I have had many dealing with dingoes and there destruction over the last 15 odd years, after living just outside Toowoomba where we regularly had poultry fall prey to them and fox's etc. My neighbour lost thousands of $$ worth of Ostrich's to 1 dingo when it got into there pen and ran amuck.
I shot and killed 5 dingoes over a couple of years less than 50m from my back door of our house, got up on many mornings only to find geese and chooks butchered and left to die. I could come home late at night and hear them howling in the distance, they roam great distances looking for food, and if it becomes readily available they will always return, they are a very sly and cunning animal.
The local council had a $50 bounty per scalp, but I never claimed 1 cent of it, I didn't kill them for the $$, I killed them to pretect my and my neighbour animals, the same as a few feral cats lost the battle to live as well.

[2 BRUTAL]

So how much livestock did Fraser Island Dingoes kill last year?

I am not talking specific Fraser here, I am refering on a broad scale, but I wonder how many true native birds and marsupials are killed by dingoes on Fraser.
They are a declared pest animal by DPI and DNR resources so I don't see why they should be protected, the Brumbies were removed and some destroyed from the island so why not the dingoes, they are only a very few Brumbies remaining but not enough for the dingoes to rely solely on them for a natural food source.

[campdog]

I have had many dealing with dingoes and there destruction over the last 15 odd years, after living just outside Toowoomba where we regularly had poultry fall prey to them and fox's etc. My neighbour lost thousands of $$ worth of Ostrich's to 1 dingo when it got into there pen and ran amuck.
I shot and killed 5 dingoes over a couple of years less than 50m from my back door of our house, got up on many mornings only to find geese and chooks butchered and left to die. I could come home late at night and hear them howling in the distance, they roam great distances looking for food, and if it becomes readily available they will always return, they are a very sly and cunning animal.
The local council had a $50 bounty per scalp, but I never claimed 1 cent of it, I didn't kill them for the $$, I killed them to pretect my and my neighbour animals, the same as a few feral cats lost the battle to live as well.
I agree 100% on what your saying about protecting you stock and animals.
Dingo baiting goes on here all the time but its called wild dog baiting.
Not everyone is entitled to go and buy a gun and go out blasting dingos .
and fox.Yoe need a locence to do that as well a need to do it ie farmer.

This thread is about fraser island and the last thing I would like to hear of is someone taking guns on the island.

[Trojan]

It's all sounding very Tasmanian Tigerish to me ;)

The Dingo may have been introduced a few thousand years ago, but in that time it's evolved into it's own unique species which can't be found anywhere else in the world. On that merit alone it's native to this country.

[Chriso]

They don't look at Adults as a food source. It's you who is doing the attacking, not your 5 month old daughter, i am sure they can tell the difference between the two of which is the "threat". It's not uncommon for animals to go after the young of an animal that is a threat to them if you want to get down to the very basics animal actions. Thats not condoning any attck by a dingo, but attacking them isn't going to help. Your logic is flawed beyond belief.

The fact that they've been on the island for a little bit more then the 200 odd years we've been in this country, gives them a pretty good claim to that being their environment. What next, the snakes on the island shouldn't be their either? Or the Sharks in the water?

So one day you're happily attacking one and it attacks you, are you going to be a sook about it? Or maybe tell everyone it was unprovoked, just so no one finds out what you were up to? Why not do it in full view of a Ranger? i am sure he will happily let you be with your actions.
I don't know what drugs you smoke mate, but they must be pretty potent. A dingo is a dog, not a shark, nor a snake. They have a brain and a reasonable amount of intelligence (but no powers of reasoning). Dogs, in this case dingoes, go through stages of aggression, i.e. bearing of teeth, growling, raised hackles etc. If an animal bypasses these stages and goes straight to the attack or bite, (in a humans case throwing sticks, rocks or using a shanghai) it puts the animal on the back foot and accepts the aggresor as the alpha dog. This theory has been used successfully by me (and others) to train and handle extremely aggressive attack dogs in the past.
They see any human, adult or child as a potential food source. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but if they fear us they will stay away from us, the pure smell of human should be enough to scare them off but DICKHEAD tourists, and locals, keep feeding the bloody things, so what makes you believe that they don't see adults as a food source.
Have you ever heard the saying...you have to be cruel to be kind!
I think you should probably put your hemp pants back on and go back to hugging trees instead of digging holes.

[Marc 1]

I have had many dealing with dingoes and there destruction over the last 15 odd years, after living just outside Toowoomba where we regularly had poultry fall prey to them and fox's etc. My neighbour lost thousands of $$ worth of Ostrich's to 1 dingo when it got into there pen and ran amuck.
I shot and killed 5 dingoes over a couple of years less than 50m from my back door of our house, got up on many mornings only to find geese and chooks butchered and left to die. I could come home late at night and hear them howling in the distance, they roam great distances looking for food, and if it becomes readily available they will always return, they are a very sly and cunning animal.
The local council had a $50 bounty per scalp, but I never claimed 1 cent of it, I didn't kill them for the $$, I killed them to pretect my and my neighbour animals, the same as a few feral cats lost the battle to live as well.

You sure they were dingo's? Packs of wild dogs are causing all the damage here in North East Vic, since the doggers were laid off by the government. Ferral dogs should be killed, along with ferral cats, donkeys, brumbys, rabbits, foxes, cane toads and camels. The only pure bloodline dingos in the world (and they are a distinct species I think) should be left alone on Fraser. Maybe they need 'fear' training (don't know how we'd do this).

I do know one thing for sure - if humans and dingos are having problems because they are interacting, then they'll simply close Fraser to tourists, not wipe out the dingo. Greenies will never see the last purebred strain of this animal wiped out (and I agree).

[Trojan]

I don't know what drugs you smoke mate, but they must be pretty potent. A dingo is a dog, not a shark, nor a snake. They have a brain and a reasonable amount of intelligence (but no powers of reasoning). Dogs, in this case dingoes, go through stages of aggression, i.e. bearing of teeth, growling, raised hackles etc. If an animal bypasses these stages and goes straight to the attack or bite, (in a humans case throwing sticks, rocks or using a shanghai) it puts the animal on the back foot and accepts the aggresor as the alpha dog. This theory has been used successfully by me (and others) to train and handle extremely aggressive attack dogs in the past.
They see any human, adult or child as a potential food source. Sorry to sound like a broken record, but if they fear us they will stay away from us, the pure smell of human should be enough to scare them off but DICKHEAD tourists, and locals, keep feeding the bloody things, so what makes you believe that they don't see adults as a food source.
Have you ever heard the saying...you have to be cruel to be kind!
I think you should probably put your hemp pants back on and go back to hugging trees instead of digging holes.


OK, i am sorry, i was in the wrong. Can you please give me all your details to forward onto QPWS so they can have a chat to you about your superior knowledge on how dingo management on Fraser. Inclduing your theory that it's ok to attack them to show your dominance and that you regularly practice it.

I do find it interesting, that you're the one needing to resort to personal insults in your argument. ;)

[Googy]

So,you have crocs there, you chose to live there and so did the crocs,learn to live with them..
Its not illegal to spray a funnelweb,unless its a queensland spider.

Well you stay down there and I'll continue to live in the greatest part of the country where we still have pristine wilderness because of the people who were born here and choose to live here

[AJC]

Its clear that this is a divisive subject, but keep this in mind, It could be your child. Its impossible to keep an eye on children at all times. Now bear with me. Its a "national park" and a very popular one at that. With its worldwide status it 'should' be a reasonably safe place to visit and enjoy but as for the number of dingoes there needs to be a balance. Personally I wouldnt like to see the dingoes starve to death or making it a habit to attack children. The fact is that the Parks and Wildlife services are happy to take our money but reluctant to use it to manage any 'wildlife' effectively. Instead they are quite happy to spend millions on putting up gates and fences to keep us out. Parks and wildlife services really need to lift their game because they have a pretty poor record on managing problem flora and fauna. eg Blackberry's, privot, wild dogs, horses, roos etc, even their bushfire managent is bloody hopeless and its always left to the volunteers to pick up the slack. It is to them that our anger and frustration should be vented.

[Googy]

The way some people think is that if it's a national park then we should stay out or be prepared to feed ourselves or maybe one of our kids to the local wildlife and let everything breed unchecked until half of them are staving.

[GOIN BUSH]

Let The Dingos Run,if You Dont Like Them Dont Go?????????????????are We Going To Take The Snakes From The Outback???????????????are We Going To Take The Crocs From The North???????????????????are We Going To Take The Sharks From The Ocean??????????????????its Nature,its Why We Love Australia.

[AJC]

Let The Dingos Run,if You Dont Like Them Dont Go?????????????????are We Going To Take The Snakes From The Outback???????????????are We Going To Take The Crocs From The North???????????????????are We Going To Take The Sharks From The Ocean??????????????????its Nature,its Why We Love Australia.
Yes its nature, but we are part of it, and the dominant species. We have a responsibilty to look after it not just let it run amok

[GOIN BUSH]

Yes its nature, but we are part of it, and the dominant species. We have a responsibilty to look after it not just let it run amok
IF WERE SO DOMINANT WHY ARE THE ATTACKING US???????????
THE WORLD HAS BIGGER PROBLEMS THAN A FEW DINGOS.

[boof]

Yes its nature, but we are part of it, and the dominant species. We have a responsibilty to look after it not just let it run amok

Gee glad we are doing such a top job the world is in great shape. We might be dominant but that desnt makes us right;)

[GOIN BUSH]

Gee glad we are doing such a top job the world is in great shape. We might be dominant but that desnt makes us right;)
COPY THAT BOOF,IN TOTAL AGREEMENT.

[campdog]

Well you stay down there and I'll continue to live in the greatest part of the country where we still have pristine wilderness because of the people who were born here and choose to live here
Mate your the one winging about the crocs and dingos.It wont be pristine if you shoot all the wildlife. I choose to live here and there are sharks in the water down at the beach and its their right to be there.

[campdog]

The way some people think is that if it's a national park then we should stay out or be prepared to feed ourselves or maybe one of our kids to the local wildlife and let everything breed unchecked until half of them are staving.
Its hard to argue with you, I might live in NSW but I support the Cowboys.Lets get rid of a few rabbits on Monday night.:D

[GOIN BUSH]

If We Cull Every Species That Threatens Man What A Boring Life We Would Live.we Would All Be Living In The City,sitting At Home,doing F#k All.get Out There And Enjoy The Wildlife While Its Still Here To Appreciate.

[Thirsty2454]

Its hard to argue with you, I might live in NSW but I support the Cowboys.Lets get rid of a few rabbits on Monday night.:D

dont change the subject. keep fighting .lol

[campdog]

dont change the subject. keep fighting .lol
Being from bellingen you would be aware of National Parks trying to cull brumbies from Guy Falks national Park.
Dingoes are baited in the Armidale, Walca area because they are breeding with wild dogs and killing in packs, Frase Island has pure bred dingos and need preserving, not because they are annoting bloody campers.

[Thirsty2454]

Im not disagreeing with you campdog. I just wanted this bitch fight to continue for my own enjoyment.

[campdog]

Im not disagreeing with you campdog. I just wanted this bitch fight to continue for my own enjoyment.
Im guilty if stirring a big spoon as well.Especially when theres Quuuueeeenslandeeers involved ahhhhhhhhhhhhh:D

[campdog]

Well you stay down there and I'll continue to live in the greatest part of the country where we still have pristine wilderness because of the people who were born here and choose to live here
Why wouldnt the place be pristine , If the crocs dont eat you the stingers will and dont forget the snakes and dingos and through in a million bloody cane toads, and you.

[Googy]

Im guilty if stirring a big spoon as well.Especially when theres Quuuueeeenslandeeers involved ahhhhhhhhhhhhh:D

better to be a queenslander than a homosexual canine or was that a camp dog

[BLU-125]

In 2000 I finally convinced my new family to come to Fraser for a holiday, a trip that I had made many times before.

We camped at Waddy and on the last day, my step sons who were 7 & 9 at the time wanted to walk back to camp from the big dune on the Southern end of the beach by them self, while their mother & I drove back. I wasn't keen, but I let them. They changed their mind after a short walk, because they could "hear something", so they came down to the beach and jumped in with Jenny & I.

We were home two weeks later to hear on the news of the death of a child on the same track they were walking.

I have never been able to convince them to join me in any trips to Fraser since then.

BTW, is there ANY snakes on Fraser? I thought it was snake free.

[Googy]

Why wouldnt the place be pristine , If the crocs dont eat you the stingers will and dont forget the snakes and dingos and through in a million bloody cane toads, and you.

1. I had a look back and I can't find where I said anything about killing ALL Crocs because I would honestly hate that. I do believe that they should be thinned out especially near large urban centres. Because you can rant and rave all you like but if a child gets taken you can blame the parents all you like but that won't help the kid. And kids will be kids.

2. Get out the books pal,stingers sting they don't eat you, that's why they call them stingers.

3. I love snakes.

4. A quote from Wikipedia "The dingo (plural dingoes or dingos), Canis lupus dingo, is a type of wild dog, probably descended from the Indian Wolf (Canis lupus pallipes). It is commonly described as an Australian wild dog, but is not restricted to Australia, nor did it originate there. Modern dingoes are found throughout Southeast Asia, mostly in small pockets of remaining natural forest, and in mainland Australia, particularly in the north. They have features in common with both wolves and modern dogs, and are regarded as more or less unchanged descendants of an early ancestor of modern dogs. The name dingo comes from the language of the Eora Aboriginal people, who were the original inhabitants of the Sydney area. Another name for the dingo is warrigal."

5. I've done my share of killing cane toad by skwishing them on the roads or tying them to sky rockets when I was a kid (gee I miss cracker night)

6. And you must be used to dingoes because there's a few that wear sky blue and play for NSW.

7. Having said all that. No one is all bad. Go the Cowboy and go the Queenslanders.

[Chriso]

OK, i am sorry, i was in the wrong. Can you please give me all your details to forward onto QPWS so they can have a chat to you about your superior knowledge on how dingo management on Fraser. Inclduing your theory that it's ok to attack them to show your dominance and that you regularly practice it.

I do find it interesting, that you're the one needing to resort to personal insults in your argument. ;)
Personal insults, what personal insults. Firstly if I have insulted you, please accept my deepest and sincerest apologies, I never meant to offend.
Secondly, if you have found my comments insulting, purchase yourself a rather large can of HARDEN THE F*#K UP and give yourself a liberal spraying.

[Trojan]

We were home two weeks later to hear on the news of the death of a child on the same track they were walking.

The one common theme that seems to be prevelant with child attacks by dingoes. Adults are not directly in the area. That child that was killed was out by himself with another child and there is suggestions that seem to point to this 4yo not having an adult that close by either.

BTW, is there ANY snakes on Fraser? I thought it was snake free.

Death Adders, Taipans, King Browns just to name some. Add Funnel Web and Redback Spiders, Tiger Sharks etc and even without Dingoes, it stacks up as having a fair bit of potential dangerous situations. Complacency is all to easy to set in on that place at times.

You go to Kakadu, you expect Crocs, Bears in YellowStone, Lions in Kruger, Dingoes on Fraser. Wilderness area that needs protecting first, tourist destination last.

[Trojan]

Personal insults, what personal insults. Firstly if I have insulted you, please accept my deepest and sincerest apologies, I never meant to offend.
Secondly, if you have found my comments insulting, purchase yourself a rather large can of HARDEN THE F*#K UP and give yourself a liberal spraying.

I'm not offended, just that insults are generally typical of lack of substance in an argument ;)

I thought i was the only idiot that woke up this early on a Sunday

[AJC]

I wonder how many of you would be the first to cry blue murder if it was your child? If Fraser was that pristine, why is there a bloody resort there? Is it more natural to feed an animal or let it starve to death?

[campdog]

1. I had a look back and I can't find where I said anything about killing ALL Crocs because I would honestly hate that. I do believe that they should be thinned out especially near large urban centres. Because you can rant and rave all you like but if a child gets taken you can blame the parents all you like but that won't help the kid. And kids will be kids.

2. Get out the books pal,stingers sting they don't eat you, that's why they call them stingers.

3. I love snakes.

4. A quote from Wikipedia "The dingo (plural dingoes or dingos), Canis lupus dingo, is a type of wild dog, probably descended from the Indian Wolf (Canis lupus pallipes). It is commonly described as an Australian wild dog, but is not restricted to Australia, nor did it originate there. Modern dingoes are found throughout Southeast Asia, mostly in small pockets of remaining natural forest, and in mainland Australia, particularly in the north. They have features in common with both wolves and modern dogs, and are regarded as more or less unchanged descendants of an early ancestor of modern dogs. The name dingo comes from the language of the Eora Aboriginal people, who were the original inhabitants of the Sydney area. Another name for the dingo is warrigal."

5. I've done my share of killing cane toad by skwishing them on the roads or tying them to sky rockets when I was a kid (gee I miss cracker night)

6. And you must be used to dingoes because there's a few that wear sky blue and play for NSW.

7. Having said all that. No one is all bad. Go the Cowboy and go the Queenslanders.
Man I hope I can burley the fish to bite like you.
But you have to remember that there were not large urban areas there all the time, and crocs cant read signs. Were moving into their area and if someone is taken its not the fault of the animal.No mattter how many you destroy it wont bring someone back or prevent it from happening again.
Also snakes dont eat you just like stingers,but can kill you. Its a matter of living together.

[campdog]

:D better to be a queenslander than a homosexual canine or was that a camp dog
Oh thats hurtful. Googy. Hate to be the one to break the news but user name and avitar isnt supposed to be your real name and photo. ayyy GOOGY

[Googy]

:D
Oh thats hurtful, I have so much respect for queensland and the great place it is.Its just a pity they gave computers to morons, ayyyyyyyyyy

Is that Moron or Maroon, I can't tell because your spellings so bad. Better buy your a dictionary or use a spell checker huh.

[campdog]

Is that Moron or Maroon, I can't tell because your spellings so bad. Better buy your a dictionary or use a spell checker huh.
You mean you cant tell or dont knowthe difference, you decide when you can. ayy

[Googy]

So tell me in all honesty, The next time you come on the big cape trip and a hungry croc decides to make a meal out of your wife or kids, are you going to say to your self “well it is their environment” or are you kill the bugger.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1217800.htm

[campdog]

So tell me in all honesty, The next time you come on the big cape trip and a hungry croc decides to make a meal out of your wife or kids, are you going to say to your self “well it is their environment” or are you kill the bugger.
Googy, what am I going to kill it with, a fishing rod or a stick, I dont carry a gun.
Come on Googy be realistic. People get taken by crocs because they do the wrong thing,there a signs everywhere about being croc wise.
of course i would want it killed, most trouble animals are removed and killed by the authorities, but you cant kill them all because there is a chance they will eat you if you present yourself as a meal or act in a way that encourages them, like cleaning fish and leaving the scraps in your camp or swimming in their backyard.
Or throwing scraps to the poor hungary dingos that have survied thousands of years without handouts.
Educate the people of the dangers, dont blame the animal.:mad:

[Googy]

Googy, what am I going to kill it with, a fishing rod or a stick, I dont carry a gun.
Come on Googy be realistic. People get taken by crocs because they do the wrong thing,there a signs everywhere about being croc wise.
of course i would want it killed, most trouble animals are removed and killed by the authorities, but you cant kill them all because there is a chance they will eat you if you present yourself as a meal or act in a way that encourages them, like cleaning fish and leaving the scraps in your camp or swimming in their backyard.
Or throwing scraps to the poor hungary dingos that have survied thousands of years without handouts.
Educate the people of the dangers, dont blame the animal.:mad:

did you read this article ????

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1217800.htm

And I don't blame the animal. I blame the greenies and the do gooders for not having the forsight to keep numbers in check

[campdog]

did you read this article ????

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2004/s1217800.htm

Just what Ive been saying GOOGY. they were camped on the beach near crocs and the croc was hungry. They shot it with an illegal unlicenced pistol.(was that mentioned) No too good a media story to charge the person) Mate that place was not downtown Cairns, Bathurst Bay, bloody remote, about a days slug through the scrub if your lucky and not the Bruce Highway.Sure they saved them, so what now, Do we need american gun laws so we all carry a pistol or do we EDUCATE PEOPLE. Maybe they need to ban people who cant be educated.:mad:

[Googy]

Just what Ive been saying GOOGY. they were camped on the beach near crocs and the croc was hungry. They shot it with an illegal unlicenced pistol.(was that mentioned) No too good a media story to charge the person) Mate that place was not downtown Cairns, Bathurst Bay, bloody remote, about a days slug through the scrub if your lucky and not the Bruce Highway.Sure they saved them, so what now, Do we need american gun laws so we all carry a pistol or do we EDUCATE PEOPLE. Maybe they need to ban people who cant be educated.:mad:

Ok bored now. You obversly don’t read well. If you read the article they did everything right. I know where it is, I’ve been there, and there are no mangroves or swamps in that area. They were camped more than 20 meters from the water ect.

Where do you camp???? Up a tree?????

[campdog]

Ok bored now. You obversly don’t read well. If you read the article they did everything right. I know where it is, I’ve been there, and there are no mangroves or swamps in that area. They were camped more than 20 meters from the water ect.

Where do you camp???? Up a tree?????
Maybe you should read it again, it said a safe distance,no t20 meters from the water, carrying unlicensed guns, if you called that doing everything right, googy dont answer the post of a maroon or moron. you have just answered it.

[Googy]

Maybe you should read it again, it said a safe distance,no t20 meters from the water, carrying unlicensed guns, if you called that doing everything right, googy dont answer the post of a maroon or moron. you have just answered it.

Sorry this artical said 20 metres

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/12/1097406541385.html?from=storylhs

but nowhere does it say the gun was unlicensed
or did you just make that bit up ayyyyy

[campdog]

Sorry this artical said 20 metres

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/10/12/1097406541385.html?from=storylhs

but nowhere does it say the gun was unlicensed
or did you just make that bit up ayyyyy
Well Googy of couse it didnt say anything about an unlicensed gun,it was in the papers at the time.What do you yhink they are moroons or something.Why would they tell everything. It wouldnt make a very good story. Campers shoot croc with illegal handgun ayyyy

[Googy]

and yes I've been called Googy since I was a kid so that don't phaze me and yes the pic does look like me and I can deal with that too

[Googy]

Well Googy of couse it didnt say anything about an unlicensed gun,it was in the papers at the time.What do you yhink they are moroons or something.Why would they tell everything. It wouldnt make a very good story. Campers shoot croc with illegal handgun ayyyy

you can't find proof so you just make it up right

[campdog]

and yes I've been called Googy since I was a kid so that don't phaze me and yes the pic does look like me and I can deal with that too

Yep good on ya

[campdog]

you can't find proof so you just make it up right
Googy, it doenst matter whay i say you wouldnt believe it anyway, I had enough playing your insult game.

[Googy]

Googy, it doenst matter whay i say you wouldnt believe it anyway, I had enough playing your insult game.

so take your bat and ball and no proof and go


See ya mate all the best

[campdog]

so take your bat and ball and no proof and go


See ya mate all the best
Come on think about it for a week or two. National Park. Hand Gun in national park, Shoot protected animal with gun in Natioanal park.
Yep seen that on the Lakefield Park sign, Guns allowed. what more proof do I need. Ring Lakefield Ranger and ask yourself,

[Googy]

Come on think about it for a week or two. National Park. Hand Gun in national park, Shoot protected animal with gun in Natioanal park.
Yep seen that on the Lakefield Park sign, Guns allowed. what more proof do I need. Ring Lakefield Ranger and ask yourself,

Funny, I would have thought that it would have been big news.

[campdog]

Funny, I would have thought that it would have been big news.
Googy, being serious for a minute, It was big news but what did people want to hear, woman jumps on croc to save life or , man charged for shooting a croc with a unlicenced illegal handgun. For a while the police debated wheter to charge the man, it would have caused an uproar if thet did. You cant deny a gun was used and it was in a National Park.
I will keep searching until I can find teh proof you want if you like,
Gotta go shopping, catch you later.:D
Ill type a bit slower if you like .

[Googy]

Googy, being serious for a minute, It was big news but what did people want to hear, woman jumps on croc to save life or , man charged for shooting a croc with a unlicenced illegal handgun. For a while the police debated wheter to charge the man, it would have caused an uproar if thet did. You cant deny a gun was used and it was in a National Park.
I will keep searching until I can find teh proof you want if you like,
Gotta go shopping, catch you later.:D
Ill type a bit slower if you like .

cya mate

I'll look aswell and I will give credit where credits due

Have fun

[orejap]

Was the dingo attack on the 4 yr old child because of people feeding them or is it because there are too many of them and they are starving?

It's been happening for a long, long time. I have seen video of two dingo's in the back of a troopie on F I looking for something to eat & two adult male humans yelling out at the dogs to "Get the F out of my truck" The dingos just looked at them & kept on doing what they were doing finally selecting a box of biscuits and trotted off into the sunset. When the Lindy C thing happened all those years ago at Ayres Rock all the people who do not know anything about Dingo's said all sorts of things & we all know what happened with that story. For some reason humans want to get up close & personal with wild animals. OK go & pat a Croc!! Wild animals kill things mainly because they are hungry,protecting themselves or their family. Why does the Govt persist in allowing humans to co habitate with wild animals & when the wild animal doesn't want to get warm & fuzzy with us some people want to kill it.:rolleyes: :confused:

[Chriso]

I'm not offended, just that insults are generally typical of lack of substance in an argument ;)

I thought i was the only idiot that woke up this early on a Sunday
No lack of substance on my part just plently of experience with canines and qualifications to back it up. What I don't like is Mondays experts pi**ing down my back and telling me that it's raining.

Having a 6 1/2 month old daughter gets one up early in the morning.

[campdog]

cya mate

I'll look aswell and I will give credit where credits due

Have fun
Thanks Googy, but think about it, is it legal to take a gun when going fishing in Qld.
We are leaving to fish the Cape on wednesday. and I will be croc wise and dingo aware. We will be in their environment. I think I might sleep up a tree.:D

[Googy]

Thanks Googy, but think about it, is it legal to take a gun when going fishing in Qld.
We are leaving to fish the Cape on wednesday. and I will be croc wise and dingo aware. We will be in their environment. I think I might sleep up a tree.:D

I think we'll agree to disagree on some things. Wish I was going with you.
Do me a favour if you stop at the Lions den for a beer and you got a bit of time to spare. Ask if an old mate of mine is there. His name is Jims and he's the local snake wrangler and pest controller, he travels all over the cape and he's and wealth of info

Best of luck and have a good time

[campdog]

I think we'll agree to disagree on some things. Wish I was going with you.
Do me a favour if you stop at the Lions den for a beer and you got a bit of time to spare. Ask if an old mate of mine is there. His name is Jims and he's the local snake wrangler and pest controller, he travels all over the cape and he's and wealth of info

Best of luck and have a good time
Met up with a bloke in 04, I think he has a place down the road, he had a place full of snakes.I mentioned stopping of there today but dont like chances.
Could you imagind our debates while having a few beers at the Lions den.
Spent a few Days at Giru last year, not a bad place.I think we need to finish it around a campfire some day ,aaaaay:D

[Googy]

Met up with a bloke in 04, I think he has a place down the road, he had a place full of snakes.I mentioned stopping of there today but dont like chances.
Could you imagind our debates while having a few beers at the Lions den.
Spent a few Days at Giru last year, not a bad place.I think we need to finish it around a campfire some day ,aaaaay:D

You should see his latest pet, a 4.5 metre scrub python. He's a good bloke and does a lot educating the local kids about snakes by taking them around the schools and such. Good fishing at Giru would you believe a train hit a 3.5m croc near Giru. And mate, you can share my fire anytime.

Cya

[campdog]

Boy its easy to get off track of where this thread started, someone asked why a dingo attacked a child. I let my beliefs and upbringing lead me away from the real issue and go off on different track.
My final word on the subject is that people are to blame, the people who decide that we should be allowed to camp on the Island with the dingos, people taking away their natural food souce and people feeding them. The dingo was here before us and have survived and should be given that respect. We are intruding on its territory.

[Googy]

Boy its easy to get off track of where this thread started, someone asked why a dingo attacked a child. I let my beliefs and upbringing lead me away from the real issue and go off on different track.
My final word on the subject is that people are to blame, the people who decide that we should be allowed to camp on the Island with the dingos, people taking away their natural food souce and people feeding them. The dingo was here before us and have survived and should be given that respect. We are intruding on its territory.

I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue.

OK my last reply

Yes people are to blame
I don't believe we need another place locked away from us whether there are dingos, crocs, or the bloody pope lives there but I do believe we (as in you and me) should leave only tracks and footprints and we should take our kids there at an early age to teach them to enjoy the bush and treat it with the respect it deserves.
I reckon people who feed dingos need a kick up the arse.
I reckon that instead of closing tracks and thinking up ways of closing people off from the right to see their own country, they (the Nat parks & wildlife) should be managing the numbers of the top predators to a reasonable level.
The last thing I want is to see them all gone.

I'm Googy and that's my say

[campdog]

I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue.

OK my last reply

Yes people are to blame
I don't believe we need another place locked away from us whether there are dingos, crocs, or the bloody pope lives there but I do believe we (as in you and me) should leave only tracks and footprints and we should take our kids there at an early age to teach them to enjoy the bush and treat it with the respect it deserves.
I reckon people who feed dingos need a kick up the arse.
I reckon that instead of closing tracks and thinking up ways of closing people off from the right to see their own country, they (the Nat parks & wildlife) should be managing the numbers of the top predators to a reasonable level.
The last thing I want is to see them all gone.

I'm Googy and that's my say
Your dead right Googy teach our kids at ane early age, i hate to see places locked away and would be there to fight if the place was to be closed off.
dont choke on that piece of tongue will ya, aaaah

[rumpig]

I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue.

OK my last reply

Yes people are to blame
I don't believe we need another place locked away from us whether there are dingos, crocs, or the bloody pope lives there but I do believe we (as in you and me) should leave only tracks and footprints and we should take our kids there at an early age to teach them to enjoy the bush and treat it with the respect it deserves.
I reckon people who feed dingos need a kick up the arse.
I reckon that instead of closing tracks and thinking up ways of closing people off from the right to see their own country, they (the Nat parks & wildlife) should be managing the numbers of the top predators to a reasonable level.
The last thing I want is to see them all gone.

I'm Googy and that's my saythese days if you see a dingo on fraser then count yourself lucky i reckon. used to be that when you woke in the morning you would find fresh footprints through your camp site, and you would see a dingo most days. last time i went at xmas for a week i saw 1 dingo and found tracks in our camp site once, if they keep culling them then there will be none left.
my opinion, parents should keep a better eye on their kids and stuff wouldn't happen. blame the parents not the dingos.

[Googy]

On a different note Campdog. I found a pic of that croc that got hit by a train about 2002 near Giru

[Googy]

these days if you see a dingo on fraser then count yourself lucky i reckon. used to be that when you woke in the morning you would find fresh footprints through your camp site, and you would see a dingo most days. last time i went at xmas for a week i saw 1 dingo and found tracks in our camp site once, if they keep culling them then there will be none left.
my opinion, parents should keep a better eye on their kids and stuff wouldn't happen. blame the parents not the dingos.

Hey Rumpig

To be honest I've never been to Fraser Island. I think maybe there is too many of them tourists there for me.

[AJC]

I'm trying so hard to bite my tongue.

OK my last reply

Yes people are to blame
I don't believe we need another place locked away from us whether there are dingos, crocs, or the bloody pope lives there but I do believe we (as in you and me) should leave only tracks and footprints and we should take our kids there at an early age to teach them to enjoy the bush and treat it with the respect it deserves.
I reckon people who feed dingos need a kick up the arse.
I reckon that instead of closing tracks and thinking up ways of closing people off from the right to see their own country, they (the Nat parks & wildlife) should be managing the numbers of the top predators to a reasonable level.
The last thing I want is to see them all gone.

I'm Googy and that's my say
That pretty much sums it up for me

[roscoFJ73]

Its not just Fraser Island where they are a problem. I snapped this one at Kings Canyon camping area just before he sneaked into someones camper kitchen and stole their defrosting meat for the next day.
Damn thing knew it was up to no good ,because as soon as it had the meat it was off like a rocket.
It may have had pups as an hour later it was back scavenging.

People are too blame for encouraging them. Everyone wants a photo so they throw out little scraps thinking it wont hurt, forgetting they are the umpteenth tourist to do it that week

[grimbo]

these days if you see a dingo on fraser then count yourself lucky i reckon. used to be that when you woke in the morning you would find fresh footprints through your camp site, and you would see a dingo most days. last time i went at xmas for a week i saw 1 dingo and found tracks in our camp site once, if they keep culling them then there will be none left.
my opinion, parents should keep a better eye on their kids and stuff wouldn't happen. blame the parents not the dingos.


Exactly. I was up there last year and saw 1 on the beach as we rove past. We hear one news report about a kid getting bitten by one when she jumps out of a car when one is next to the vehicle. Hello it is a wild animal, no parent should allow a small child to get out of a vehicle when one is right next to it, just common sense really.

I have been up to Fraser a few times, went quite alot about 25 years ago and you saw quite afew more then but never around the camp sites, usually on the dunes away from people. But then people started leaving food scraps around their camp sites, not burying their sh*t, and feeding the dingoes to get pics. People became the problem, they forgot the distinction between wild animal and dog.

Educate people about the dangers and get serious in fining them if they ignore the rules. The dingoes are considerd by many to now be considered Australian fauna not feral animals. There is no domestic livestock on the island and no wild dogs to mingle with them, so I say lets leave the dingo and get rid of the stupid tourists who can't figure out it is best to leave wild animals alone.

[2 BRUTAL]

Exactly. I was up there last year and saw 1 on the beach as we rove past. We hear one news report about a kid getting bitten by one when she jumps out of a car when one is next to the vehicle. Hello it is a wild animal, no parent should allow a small child to get out of a vehicle when one is right next to it, just common sense really.

I have been up to Fraser a few times, went quite alot about 25 years ago and you saw quite afew more then but never around the camp sites, usually on the dunes away from people. But then people started leaving food scraps around their camp sites, not burying their sh*t, and feeding the dingoes to get pics. People became the problem, they forgot the distinction between wild animal and dog.

Educate people about the dangers and get serious in fining them if they ignore the rules. The dingoes are considerd by many to now be considered Australian fauna not feral animals. There is no domestic livestock on the island and no wild dogs to mingle with them, so I say lets leave the dingo and get rid of the stupid tourists who can't figure out it is best to leave wild animals alone.

They are there trust me, you don't see them for a reason, as they are a sly cunning hunter, the 1's you do see are the 1's just going to the water to have a cool off or a trot along the beach. The 1's you don't see are the hunters sneaking around and laying low in the dunes waiting for an opportunity.

About 6 years ago we had a dingo stalking us in our boat when we were fishing the western side of the island and we were only anchored about 15m off shore fishing a drop off.
It came out of the bush's and walked straight up to the water and sat there and watched us, every now and then it got up and walked up and down the beach for a bit and then as the tide continued to go out further it slowly crept closer and closer to us. This was on the western side where there was no vehicle access within Coooee of the place but the dingo still had no fear of us.

[grimbo]

And? Don't doubt they are there, just saying we saw 1 on our time on the island. They are wild animals and we as visitors have to respect the fact that they are wild animals. Just like we accept thhat their are venomous snalkes in the bush, or sharks and jeelyfish in the sea. the problem some people have is that because the dingo looks like a pet dog they assume it will behave in the same manner, and clearly they don't.