ifs susp lift for hilux

[gutlux]

i am thinking of fitting a 4" lift kit from bigballs to my 98 hilux with ifs. does anyone have any advice on this, or how it will increase my suspension travel etc. and advice would be appreciated.

[baby_troupe]

From my understanding of the IFS on the Lux, you will need to get heavy duty torsion bars to do it, rather than winding up the existing ones.
You will also need to look at the caster angle.
Other than that, it should be pretty straight forward.

[my45]

If you want some serious flex, some of the US mags advertise a suspension kit for ifs hilux that will give you 13" of travel :D :D

[Tlux]

What do you want to do, body lift or suspension lift?

[aussietj]

I believe Rancho do a front end lift for IFS, have a look at the right up re the extra cab 2.7L hilux in 4WD monthly a month or so ago.............

this kit was a front and rear system, with replacement wishbones for the front end and all sorts of other goodies

If you want some serious flex, some of the US mags advertise a suspension kit for ifs hilux that will give you 13" of travel :D :D
Rubbish, this is impossible, the only conversion that will give an ifs lux this much travel is a solid axle swap, no ifs lift kit will improve wheel travel

[Nemesis]

It's not rubbish mate, IFS isn't limited to Torsion Bars you know.
I read an article on some mob doing it, they never showed pics or prices of the final result though which was strange, whether it wasn't complete. I'm guessing big $, and 13" wouldn't be downtravel if thats what you're thinking.

It's not rubbish mate, IFS isn't limited to Torsion Bars you know.
I read an article on some mob doing it, they never showed pics or prices of the final result though which was strange, whether it wasn't complete. I'm guessing big $, and 13" wouldn't be downtravel if thats what you're thinking.
no pics eh, sounds like rubbish to me, you only have to crank your torsion bars up 3 inches and it puts a wicked angle on your cvs even with ball joint spacers fitted, 13 inches of travel is physically impossible i reckon. if you remove a cv axle from your 4 runner you will see that it is physically impossible for it to flex that much. if someone can show me pics and specifications on how it was done i might believe it, but until then i reckon its impossible,

[Nemesis]

I'll see if i can find it later.

It was takling replacing everything though. A full custom race jobby, i'd say alot more than an SAS anyways.

I'll see if i can find it later.

It was takling replacing everything though. A full custom race jobby, i'd say alot more than an SAS anyways.
even if it is possible, the dollars it would cost would be ridiculous and you would still be stuck with the tiny crown wheel that toyota fitted to the ifs models. i reckon the sas would be cheaper and far stronger. id like to have a look at the article if you can find it though

[Nemesis]

Yeah i wouldn't do it either. Unless you were going into off road racing lol, not rockhopping....

[Nemesis]

http://fourwheeler.com/brandpages/129_0501_chaos/

I was wrong, 12" travel ;)

It has plenty of pictures, i meant it doesn't really have a conclusion......

http://fourwheeler.com/brandpages/129_0501_chaos_37_s.jpg

The Total Chaos coil-over Caddy Kit is just as expensive and almost as time-consuming to install as a properly done straight-axle conversion, but this is not a second-rate upgrade. Our completed 4Runner only sits 3 inches higher and 6.5 inches wider than stock, cycles 12 inches of vertical wheel-travel and clears 33-inch tires.

from my own experience IMO you don't have to have H/D torsion bars to get big lift...... fitting heavy duty bars i think would restrict travel to a degree......... i proved i could lift mine a HEAP with the standard T/Bs...... but i had to put them back down so i could get wheel alignment....... the only other way around it is to replace the upper control arms and put a diff drop kit in....... they make all of that for a lux ;D lift the crap out of it...... then lower the diff a couple of inches to take the angle out of the CV's..... i think it would work fine :)

[kingkong]

http://fourwheeler.com/brandpages/129_0501_chaos/

I was wrong, 12" travel ;)

It has plenty of pictures, i meant it doesn't really have a conclusion......

http://fourwheeler.com/brandpages/129_0501_chaos_37_s.jpg

The Total Chaos coil-over Caddy Kit is just as expensive and almost as time-consuming to install as a properly done straight-axle conversion, but this is not a second-rate upgrade. Our completed 4Runner only sits 3 inches higher and 6.5 inches wider than stock, cycles 12 inches of vertical wheel-travel and clears 33-inch tires.


Those CV's must be pretty extreme to take angles of 25- 30 deg (calculated)!! I wouldn't to be putting too much power through those suckers! :P

ICK!! i just looked LOL somebody dragged this out from 2003!!! :o :o I shoulda looked at the dates!! ::)

looks like alot of mucking around for not much gain, looks a bit flimsy too, i reckon the sas would be far cheaper and easier, sas would give more flex and a stronger diff centre too

[taresk]

Ignore the kit with 12" of travel, I am familiar with it, very big bucks, it's a setup used for Baja racing, it increases the wheel track by around 100mm per side to get the travel and requires replacement guards to clear the wheel and the rear kit that goes with it is just as bad, with shock towers that go through the tray and control arms that reach the T-case crossmember.

The Big Balls kit, on the other hand is basically the same as Superlift, Rancho, Black Diamond & ProComp. They are not cheap either ($3000-$4500) and get the lift by relocating the diff, lower A-arms, etc downwards and spacing everything in between, the 'Lux has the torsion bars running along the chassis rail from the top A-arms, so they're not affected. The kit is only designed to fit larger tyres, wheel travel and CV angles remain the same.

Because you don't get much for your money, other than height, and as they are priced just below a basic live-axle swap, these kits aren't very common, i've been trying to sell a Superlift kit from my old 4Runner for months now, nobody want's them, you should keep that in mind before you hand over your hard-earned.

[Twisty]

How much are you selling the superlift kit for?

[kitch76]

How much are you selling the superlift kit for?


You dont need more height Dave!!! LOL any way I want to know how much fo the kit ;D ;D

[Twisty]

LOL, I always need more height ;D

But you need the kit more than I do, so its all yours ;)

[taresk]

My kit is currently doing it's third round on E-bay, it's down to $2500 now.