Recovery Gear

[big_dazza]

Looking at buying some recovery gear and i'm not sure what to get. Just wondering what it is essential to carry?

[cpt-mud]

i would say as a basic kit
1 snatch strap
a couple of rated d shackels

if you have a winch also add
winch dampner
tree trunk protector
gloves
winch extension strap

[stu050]

i would say as a basic kit
1 snatch strap
a couple of rated d shackels

if you have a winch also add
winch dampner
tree trunk protector
gloves
winch extension strap

Snatch block (or two)

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

Teamed with a bit of elbow grease, A long handled shovel, a tyre pressure guage, and an air compressor will get you out of more 'sticky situations' than anything else!!

If you get a snatch strap, make sure you've got recovery hooks front and rear! They aren't much good anyway, unless you've got another vehicle with you, and they aren't in the s#!t too!!

[LoadedDisco]

I was at a camping store recently this week and they showed me apparently the new Staun Snatch Strap.
It is smaller than a normal snatch strap in thickness and width of the strap, a lot smaller.
You don’t need any shackles as the strap just pulls through your recovery points then you just thread the end back along the strap itself through little pockets along the strap.
In an in store demo it looks great but I would like to see one in action before I would buy one.
They should be in the stores soon.

Has anyone else seen them ?

[big_dazza]

Got myself a folding shovel, couple of 4 tonne D shackles and am waiting on a "Snatch Em Strap" ? i think it was called from Opposite Lock.

Thanks for the info everyone.

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

Extensively tested the Staun Recovery Strap, and they work pretty well. I don't own one, but I'll certainly consider adding one to my recovery kit the next time I replace a strap!! They totally remove the need for a shackle, and it isn't hard to weave the strap thru the gaps, you just gotta do it a few times! (Wipe the mud off first!)

Although, I always recommend that people should install 2 properly attached and rated recovery HOOKS to each end of their vehicle, and if you do that, you don't ever need to use shackles either!

[tariadamar]

hey mate a high lift is good to as a later thing to add on. and a long handle shovel not a folding one. as u need the length it helps they are like $20 at bunnings. uuuuummmmmmmm and pack a tool box if ya got one, and a yeah that about it.

[LoadedDisco]

i would say as a basic kit
1 snatch strap
a couple of rated d shackels

if you have a winch also add
winch dampner
tree trunk protector
gloves
winch extension strap


Mate he has just about covered it.
I would carry all that if you cant afford an electric winch get a hand winch like I have.
A block of wood for your jack as well.
There are heaps of other items but what has been mentioned is the bare basics.

[brooksy]

An absolute bare minimum is a snatch strap & 2 d-shackles. I say this as a BARE minimum. The reason is it is a big p!ss off when helping people to find out that they don't have these couple of items at least. Because in 95% of situations these are all that is required & when helping a fellow 4wder you should be able to use the vehicle being recovered gear.



brooksy

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

If you've got the jacking points on your vehicle to make it's use viable, a Hi-Lift Jack is a far more versatile recovery tool than a hand winch ever will be! Even without the jacking points, there are now adaptors and fittings that make the Hi-Lift able to lift just one wheel, a whole side, the front, the rear, or it can be used as a winch (albeit slowly)!

We've done a lot of testing and training with these things, and someone who knows what they are doing can winch just as fast with a Hi-Lift as you can with a hand winch, but the amount and weight of the gear carried is significantly less and it's easier to carry too! The killer with the hand winch is the coil of wire, it's weight, and the lump of metal that is an odd packing shape in the hand winch itself! The Hi-Lift will mount easily on a spare tyre or roof rack, the attachments and accessories are all small and easily stowed collectively being far less than the coil of wire, and the necessary bits for winching are all the softer bits that you need with a hand winch anyway! Things like a drag chain, winch extn strap, tree protector, etc.

So if it comes down to the choice between a Hand winch and a Hi-Lift jack, talk to someone who knows the benefits of both, and look carefully at how many things the Hi-lift can do versus the limited range of tasks the Hand winch is able to carry out in your recovery efforts! It all comes down to weight and the versatility found in each kg of gear that you carry!! Something with many uses per Kg versus a heavier something with only a few uses per Kg is a no-brainer to me!!

[no eye deer]

8 metres of chain, a shovel, wire rope, snatch block, snatch strap, Hi-Lift jack. And a UHF!

Mark

[redhummer]

Depends how broad your perspective on "recovery" is. For a laugh, here is the die-hard expedition list for H1s. Please note that this is hardcore, remote location stuff. What groups of offroaders usually do is share the load and split up the equipment otherwise you would need a Hummer for all this stuff:

1. Safety/ Emergency: you may get stuck for a long time or get hurt
Fire Extinguisher
First Aid Kit
Water - 1 gal per person per day
Compass, Maps
Signal Flares & Mirror, Whistle,
Matches
Space Blanket
Water Tablets
Plastic Sheet
Dehydrated Food

2. Vehicle OEM
Spare Tire, Jack & Lug Wrench
Spare Key
Owner & Repair Manual
Winch with winch controller
Winch accessory Kit
- Jerk & tree strap, clevis, chain, gloves, snatch block

3. Other
Tire Repair Kit, Gauge, Valves, Stems, Core Remover
CB, Scanner, GPS, Cell Phone
Jumper Cables
Hi Lift Jack
Tarps, Rope, Nylon Cord
Flashlights - w/extra batteries (AA,AAA,C,D,9volt)
Fuel Cans w/extra fuel

4. Trail tools
Survival Knife
Shovel
Axe
Saw
Hatchet
Bucket, Canvas

5. Supplies
Litter bags
Toilet Paper
Rags
Shop Towels
Duct Tape
Bailing Wire
Black Tape
Window Cleaner
Handi Wipes/Hand Cleaner

6. Fluids
Engine Oil
ATF/Power Steering
Brake Fluid
Grease Gun or Cup Grease
90 wt
WD-40
RTV Silicone
Loctite - 242,271,272
Radiator Stop Leak
Teflon Thread Dope
Gasket Eliminator
Tire repairkit
Brake Cleaner

7. General
Coveralls
12-volt trouble light
Pencil and pad
Marker
6" Steel Ruler
Tape measure
Feeler Gauge
Steel Scribe
Fluke Meter
Belt Tension Gauge
C-Clamps
Retrieval magnet & mirror
Battery terminal cleaner, puller & spreader
Hacksaw w/blades
Putty knife
Gasket Scraper w/blades
Ball joint & Tie Rod separator

8. Tools
Socket sets
Breaker bar - 1/2"
Ratchet - 3/8" drive
Ratchet - 1/2" drive
Extension - 3/8 x 3"
Extension - 3/8 x 6"
Extension - 1/2 x 6"
Crowfoot - 3/8 drive 1 1/16"
Crowfoot - 3/8 drive 15/16"
1/4" Sockets - 1/4" 12 point (door adjuster)
3/8 to 1/4 adapter " "
3/8" Sockets - 3/8 to 3/4
1/2" Sockets - 3/4, 7/8, 15/16, 1", 1-1/16
3/8" Sockets - 14mm & 15mm
Wrenches
12" Adjustable
Wrench set - 5/16 to 1 1/16 open & box
Wrench set - 4mm to 19mm
Pliers
8" long nose
10" Vice Grip
8" Channel Lock
Side Cutters
Screwdrivers
Phillips - #1 & #2
Slotted - #1-#2-#3
18" slotted for pry bar
Allen headed wrenches
5/32" Set to 3/8"
Hammers
12 oz Ball peen
CHISEL & PUNCHES
3/16 x 10" line up punch
5/32 x 9" line up punch
1/4" cold chisel
3/8" cold chisel
1/2" cold chisel
Files
10" flat
Supplies
Cotter Pins
Hose Clamp Assortment
Nuts & Bolts
Electrical
Voltmeter
Splice wire

9. Spare parts
Engine - Hoses & Belts
Fuel System - Lift Pump, Fuel Filter, Check Valve
Electrical - Fuses & Some extra wire w/connectors
Driveline - Halfshafts (LF,RF & R) & U-Joints (Upper & Lower)
Suspension - Ball Joints
CTIS - Wheel Valve & Tubing

[bundylux]

ive got some advice dont buy a fifteen tonne snatch strap the dont strech enough the onle time it stretched properly was when we had to pull a truck out at work. but it was pretty funny when i pulled it out the first time ond all my mates were like what the hell is that

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

Yeah, bigger straps are for recovering bigger vehicles, not for carrying out bigger recoveries!! They just break normal vehciles unless you're lucky!! So keep the strap to about the 6-8 tonne mark and carry out recoveries accordingly! Don't go for the 'hero' recovery first up, and if you are breaking straps all the time on Hilux's or Cruisers, no matter how heavily laden, it's not the fault of the 8 tonne strap, its SOMETHING YOU ARE DOING WRONG!

[stu050]

Depends how broad your perspective on "recovery" is. For a laugh, here is the die-hard expedition list for H1s. Please note that this is hardcore, remote location stuff. What groups of offroaders usually do is share the load and split up the equipment otherwise you would need a Hummer for all this stuff:

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[CTIS - Wheel Valve & Tubing

WHAT!!!!!

No welder or grinders??? Seems that you have everything else..... :D :D

Hummer???? Maybe deuce and a half to carry all that cr@p :D
My .02

[Peter @ Aawen4x4]

But have you looked at their list of supplies???

Those litter bags must be AWFULLY TASTY to get on the list above Toilet Paper, rags, and shop towels!!

YUMM YUMM!!

[redhummer]

I did say this was the 'Hardcore" list! I must admit I'm far from that at the moment with 2 very small kids. I take zero risks at present. I'm quite jealous reading about my H1 pals' extreme adventures in the middle of nowhere USA. One day maybe. My tool kit is much smaller!

[cpt-mud]

redhummer, now we know why you have a hummer. you would need to carry all the equipment

[Troopy93]

Depends how broad your perspective on "recovery" is. For a laugh, here is the die-hard expedition list for H1s. Please note that this is hardcore, remote location stuff. What groups of offroaders usually do is share the load and split up the equipment otherwise you would need a Hummer for all this stuff:

1. Safety/ Emergency: you may get stuck for a long time or get hurt
Fire Extinguisher
First Aid Kit
Water - 1 gal per person per day
Compass, Maps
Signal Flares & Mirror, Whistle,
Matches
Space Blanket
Water Tablets
Plastic Sheet
Dehydrated Food

2. Vehicle OEM
Spare Tire, Jack & Lug Wrench
Spare Key
Owner & Repair Manual
Winch with winch controller
Winch accessory Kit
- Jerk & tree strap, clevis, chain, gloves, snatch block

3. Other
Tire Repair Kit, Gauge, Valves, Stems, Core Remover
CB, Scanner, GPS, Cell Phone
Jumper Cables
Hi Lift Jack
Tarps, Rope, Nylon Cord
Flashlights - w/extra batteries (AA,AAA,C,D,9volt)
Fuel Cans w/extra fuel

4. Trail tools
Survival Knife
Shovel
Axe
Saw
Hatchet
Bucket, Canvas

5. Supplies
Litter bags
Toilet Paper
Rags
Shop Towels
Duct Tape
Bailing Wire
Black Tape
Window Cleaner
Handi Wipes/Hand Cleaner

6. Fluids
Engine Oil
ATF/Power Steering
Brake Fluid
Grease Gun or Cup Grease
90 wt
WD-40
RTV Silicone
Loctite - 242,271,272
Radiator Stop Leak
Teflon Thread Dope
Gasket Eliminator
Tire repairkit
Brake Cleaner

7. General
Coveralls
12-volt trouble light
Pencil and pad
Marker
6" Steel Ruler
Tape measure
Feeler Gauge
Steel Scribe
Fluke Meter
Belt Tension Gauge
C-Clamps
Retrieval magnet & mirror
Battery terminal cleaner, puller & spreader
Hacksaw w/blades
Putty knife
Gasket Scraper w/blades
Ball joint & Tie Rod separator

8. Tools
Socket sets
Breaker bar - 1/2"
Ratchet - 3/8" drive
Ratchet - 1/2" drive
Extension - 3/8 x 3"
Extension - 3/8 x 6"
Extension - 1/2 x 6"
Crowfoot - 3/8 drive 1 1/16"
Crowfoot - 3/8 drive 15/16"
1/4" Sockets - 1/4" 12 point (door adjuster)
3/8 to 1/4 adapter " "
3/8" Sockets - 3/8 to 3/4
1/2" Sockets - 3/4, 7/8, 15/16, 1", 1-1/16
3/8" Sockets - 14mm & 15mm
Wrenches
12" Adjustable
Wrench set - 5/16 to 1 1/16 open & box
Wrench set - 4mm to 19mm
Pliers
8" long nose
10" Vice Grip
8" Channel Lock
Side Cutters
Screwdrivers
Phillips - #1 & #2
Slotted - #1-#2-#3
18" slotted for pry bar
Allen headed wrenches
5/32" Set to 3/8"
Hammers
12 oz Ball peen
CHISEL & PUNCHES
3/16 x 10" line up punch
5/32 x 9" line up punch
1/4" cold chisel
3/8" cold chisel
1/2" cold chisel
Files
10" flat
Supplies
Cotter Pins
Hose Clamp Assortment
Nuts & Bolts
Electrical
Voltmeter
Splice wire

9. Spare parts
Engine - Hoses & Belts
Fuel System - Lift Pump, Fuel Filter, Check Valve
Electrical - Fuses & Some extra wire w/connectors
Driveline - Halfshafts (LF,RF & R) & U-Joints (Upper & Lower)
Suspension - Ball Joints
CTIS - Wheel Valve & Tubing

You forgot the 4 drawer system / 8x5 trailer to carry it all in

[bigbennymq]

the best way to buy is in a whole kit for a couple of hundreads bucks then you know u are covered when 4wding

[stu050]

I did say this was the 'Hardcore" list! I must admit I'm far from that at the moment with 2 very small kids. I take zero risks at present. I'm quite jealous reading about my H1 pals' extreme adventures in the middle of nowhere USA. One day maybe. My tool kit is much smaller!

Hey Rick,

How would your mates vehicles go on some of our 4WD treks...Like the Canning Stock Route for example?

They will need to carry 200+ litres of fuel for this trip. (For a standard 4WD)

Eg:
There is no fuel between Bililuna and Kuniwaritji, a distance of 800Km, much of which is hard sand driving, also no fuel between Kuniwaritji and Willuna, a distance of over 1000 Km.

As well as that, they would have to carry everything that they will need for approx. 2 weeks, as there is nothing out there.