York Air Compressor

Im starting my York Air Compressor install in the next couple of weeks, I’ve sourced the longer stroke PTF210R (with the internal oil reservoir) from a Volvo wrecker for $86 and have a decent idea of where ill mount the thing (small block chev, only alt and ps to work around). I’ve read that the 210 pumps 27cfm at 4000 rpm (that’s a fair amount more than the arb 2.5cfm) but every truck that I know that's installed a York or a/c style compressor has also installed a tank. Correct me if im wrong, but unless I want to run impact tools, I wont need a tank right? An a/c tech head recently told me that without a tank, regulator and blow off/drainage plug, ill have problems with moisture and oil getting in my tyres.
Can anyone steer me in the right direction here?

[baby_troupe]

My suggestion would be to use one of your rock sliders as an air tank.
Seems to be the popular option nowadays. I also recommend pressure relief valve, or something will blow.

[my45]

If you have a big roll bar, thats also a good tanks :)

If i dont need to run a tank i dont want to, i want to run a line stright from the compressor to the tyre. I want to know what problems, if any, this may cause. i.e potential oil and moisture in the line, then in the tyre. I know heat, at the compressor end, can blow lines, but what about an oil catching device, that still flows high cfm ?

[baby_troupe]

I am not sure mate. Darren should be along soon & he may have a few ideas. ;)

[wooders]

ARB - 2.5CFM - LOL they wish....at PSI they do about 1.9CFM and as the pressure increases they drop off faster than the engine driven compressors.
The York210 should pump out about 10CFM - still a lot more than the ARB - and the rate of volume doesn't drop as fast as the pressure does.....more rpm will give more CFM - but I doubt you'll get 23cfm .....
Yes you can run them without an airtank - but they'll be continually cycling which will lead to a reduced life for the compressor.....
I have plans to fit a york to my TJ and ditch the puny ARB compressor - I can throw up some links I've collected if you're interested....

[my45]

Show us wooders, i haven't had anything to do with them so give me the gos.

The York210 should pump out about 10CFM - still a lot more than the ARB - and the rate of volume doesn't drop as fast as the pressure does.....more rpm will give more CFM - but I doubt you'll get 23cfm .....
Yes you can run them without an airtank - but they'll be continually cycling which will lead to a reduced life for the compressor.....



Im just quoting what i read elsewhere about the 210, maybe they use smaller pulleys, who knows.

What about oil in the lines ?

[wooders]

OK here are the best threads That I've book marked:

1. York Online Manual (http://www.onboardair.com/york_manual.htm)
2. York Installation (http://www.off-road.com/jeep/tech/body/york/)
3. York Installation (similar to #2). (http://www.jedi.com/obiwan/jeep/yorkair.html)
4. Installing in a TJ (http://members.cox.net/rough-riders/tech_page/york/york.html)

Although the later 3 pages have similar information they have small variances that are useful info....
Lastly a US company that produces kits to fit - Kilby Enterprises (http://www.kilbyenterprises.com/) which might give you some ideas too.....

Oil lines?

Check the flow rate of the valve in the tyre before you get to worried about how many cfm a minute you can do......

[my45]

Shed Guy, he wants to use it to spray paint and use tools with, Not just to pump up his tires.

He doesnt say that at all, he says for blowing up tyres......

A tank becomes a plenum chamber as well, allowing the pressure to be more stable than direct from the compressor.

Moisture will still be in the compressed air, tank or not, but it will be no different to any other compressed air you get.

[my45]

Sorry :-[ :-[ i was just looking at a post on outerlimits about a compressor for multipurpoe useage. :-[ :-[

some over there use compressors for inflating ego's, thats why they need so much air....... ::)

[baby_troupe]

For a change I will leave that one alone.

:-X

you left it alone, and still got padding in to up your count.....

chicken......LOL ;)

[baby_troupe]

I'm still an active member over there & they are a bit too hard core for what I am into. (on the minus side)
They have given me plenty of good advice tho (on the plus side)

The fence is a great place to sit.
http://images.animfactory.com/animations/animals/cats/kitty_love_md_wht.gif

He doesnt say that at all, he says for blowing up tyres......

A tank becomes a plenum chamber as well, allowing the pressure to be more stable than direct from the compressor.

Moisture will still be in the compressed air, tank or not, but it will be no different to any other compressed air you get.


Thanks Darren,

my main concern is that oil will end up in my tyres, moisture is a given. A mate said that if i ran a tank, i could catch the oil more easily with a filter or something, but im not sure that will work. If the oil/moistures makes it to a tank, it will surely make it out right ?

[my45]

I would think so

A tiny few drops of oil in the unit 4 times a year is heaps, dont draw air from the rocker cover, draw fresh clean air, through a filter, [old victa mowers had a paer element on the handle of the mower with a hose to it they work great]

Then oil should not be a problem in your tubes and tyres.

[baby_troupe]

Maybe run the inlet it through a cheap ryco fuel filter & line & run it near your dif breather extensions up under the bonnet

[wooders]

Just think it'll help prevent the insides of your rims from rusting ;D

[wooders]

I'm still an active member over there (outlimits) & they are a bit too hard core for what I am into. (on the minus side)
They have given me plenty of good advice tho (on the plus side)


Man if you think the outerlimits is hardcore - don't go asking about colour schemes on the POR board ;)

[baby_troupe]

Man if you think the outerlimits is hardcore - don't go asking about colour schemes on the POR board ;)

SOunds like a fun visit.
PM me the link & I'll take a peek.

[wooders]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/
It's a top board full of some extremely hardcore info - but plenty have a low tolerance for idiots....

[baby_troupe]

I should't last long then huh? ;D

[baby_troupe]

Just checked it out.
Pretty hard core, but a bunch of fun lovin people all the same.
Didn't post anything yet, rather watch for a while & see how it is.

Im on there too...

along with afew of the US guys from 80scool etc but tend to stick to the cruiser chat mainly......

[wooders]

LOL yeah I usually hang in the Jeep section - but I'm (surprisingly?) not very active....

too busy I say.... cant keep up with it.....

[my45]

Jeeps never can keep up ;)

[baby_troupe]

Jeeps never can keep up ;)


WTF
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[trail craft]

I have been runing a York Compressor for 12 months, I used an ARB presure switch and wired it to the clutch so that the compressor would switch off at a 100psi. Also had an air tank I drained it once in 12 months and very little water came out.
The compressor has oil ports from the sump up to the intake. If you remove the head you will see them. You are suppose to block them off. But I didn't & had no problems up to date. There are two sorts of compressors one's horizontal and one vertical mounted.
As for the CFM not hundred % how much it flows but it will pump up 4 38's from 4pounds to 30pounds in about 6-7 mins. So bolt it on and pump away.

[big red]

theres supposed to be a port in the front shaft seal area at the top of the housing which leads to the suction port and blocking this is supposed to reduce oil pumping without affecting compressor life.