Five link front end

[patrol]

Has anyone got any storys about them?, I have a few but there all bad. I haven't seen one work any better than a well set up standard front (on a patrol or 80 anyway) going up hill , going down hill when there is more weight on them they seem to work a bit better. On the road they are sh*thouse, I think it comes down to the so called experts that fit them, a mate of mine had one fitted in Sydney when he picked the car up it wouldn't drive over 60, it crabed down the road because the front diff was set up 30mm out of parrallel with the rear, and now his hubs are leaking 1 was not to bad but the other was running out, the guy that fixed it new what the problem was straight away the diff was bent from welding all the 5 link brackets on. The only people I have meet that say they drive good have 4wds that only have small lifts about 2" or they sell them.
So thats my opinion on them I'd like to hear what everyone else thinks, are they good or bad?.

Cheers.

I would make a set of front arms that swivel, with 80 type bushes ande coil overs before I ever went 5 link front.

[big red]

dont know about the other brands but the wizard bolt on set works well.
out ramps mine by a long way.
i get 2010 up a 30 degree ramp frontwards and the 5 link gets another 200/300.
no wobbles on road either.

[big red]

look for pics of the white GQ ute on www.wizardperformance.com.au
it has GU diffs and a 5 link

[madipantat]

I've got the Calbah weld-in kit with 6" spring and a 2" body lift. Everyone told me it would be crap on road. As far as I am concerned, it is brilliant. Drives well on road, unstoppable off road and its got the best articulation around. Most people are too busy talking about what they heard from a friend of a friend. If you really want to find out what something is like, contact a 4wd shop and they can generally put you in touch with someone who owns what you are looking for. Redlands 4wd put me on to Buddha Barnes and I spent the day out with him and loved his truck. That sold it for me.

[baby_troupe]

I think Nick Mannell runs a 5 link on the front of his GU.
Seems to work OK for him.
see www.mannellmotors.com.au (http://www.mannellmotors.com.au)

[FUN-TOY]

has anybody seen 5 link on LC 100?

[cuttin loose]

how much would/should you pay for a 5 link these days??

I've heard good things about the mick mannell 5 link build.. Like BT said check him out...

I would get the rear working right first, before I increased front travel to far, as front travel is good, but most rollover situations are on front downhill it seems on cars with lots of travel, and a tall ride height, as they seem to trip themselves up with the weight shift.

[BLU-125]

Absolutly agree with Darren. (This is becoming too frequent.) Fix back first.

By the way, I thought Nick Mannell was actually the Wizard agent for Sideney. Is he doing his own now?

[Link]

You don't need to fix the back end of Patrols though..

You don't need to fix the back end of Patrols though..


The back end of patrols are particularly bad, when you lift them they lose the abilty to tranfer the drive to the ground as well. Once the arm angles change, they no longer "squat" like a standard one, and brake traction easier.

And the front of a pootrol...well we wont even go there.... :P

[Link]

You don't need to fix the back end of Patrols though..


The back end of patrols are particularly bad, when you lift them they lose the abilty to tranfer the drive to the ground as well. Once the arm angles change, they no longer "squat" like a standard one, and brake traction easier.

And the front of a pootrol...well we wont even go there.... :P

I've got a completely different set-up going on mine, but that's based on the way I drive and what my needs are.. For most people, the standard set-up on a Patrol (minus the swaybars) works a treat.. As for the front, I'm not going there either ;D

[Guts]

Here is something new and different for 5 inch lifted patrols, 5 inch lift cast arms. Nick Mannell is running these on his new rig (has sold the GU) and it will be at the Darling Harbour 4x4 Show from the 18th to the 21st of March for anybody that whats a look.


http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14633

If you aren`t going to the show and want to know about these arms then ring Ryan from Snake Racing on 0408 252589.

[wazhere]

I have to agree with Link, my brother has 3inch(soon to be 5inch) lift with no swaybars and it works very well.

worked well compared too?????

Here is something new and different for 5 inch lifted patrols, 5 inch lift cast arms. Nick Mannell is running these on his new rig (has sold the GU) and it will be at the Darling Harbour 4x4 Show from the 18th to the 21st of March for anybody that whats a look.


http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14633

If you aren`t going to the show and want to know about these arms then ring Ryan from Snake Racing on 0408 252589.





I see the concept, but making the arm go over the diff housing, like I have done with 80 ones would be easier, neater, out of the way, and on 6" of lift is perfect.

[patrol]

We tried to mount the arms on top on a GQ but there is not enough room, and the way the nissan arms are, there wouldn't be much advantage 1 mounting point is in the middle at the back and the other is at the front down low, if you turn them over the rear bolt is in almost the same place, the 80s arms work better for this but there is not much room to mount them on top, I agree that the higher you lift a patrol the worse the rear gets as all the angles are wrong. this is not just patrols it's the same for everything.

[luke]

all these guys hear this from friends. mate ive got 7inch lift kit 2inch body on my GQ wagon and have also got the nick mannell 5 link bolt on front and it works awsome. i have not had a prob with it at all. i still run with sway bars with a quick disconect and on the road i can sit on 140 with out a wobble. cant remember the exact price but can find out if you want. mate talk to the pros they no what they on about but remember they are also going to try and sell you there stuff. if you want any pics or more info let me no and i will do it for you

[wazhere]

worked well compared too?????


Doesn't have to be compared to anything!
I just don't think there is a problem with the suspension.

worked well compared too?????


Doesn't have to be compared to anything!
I just don't think there is a problem with the suspension.


So it works well, if you dont compare it to anything.....ok.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.

[cuttin loose]

i've got mine lifted 4in and 2in body, but haven't really taken it out in the dirt since i had it done so can't really comment....

will be up in Newcastle tomorrow so i'll give it a run then and let you know.. ;D ;D

anyone else up that way and got time for a burn on Sat??

worked well compared too?????


Doesn't have to be compared to anything!
I just don't think there is a problem with the suspension.


So it works well, if you dont compare it to anything.....ok.

Ignorance is bliss I guess.


can't miss out on an opportunity to flame somebody can ya shed ::)

whoops!! off topic hijack :-X :-X

roedeo
LOL i would be the least insecure person you are likely to meet.... you stated "ignorance is bliss".... insinuating that waza is ignorant because he didn't compare his suspension to anything........ i have more to say.... but in the interest of this forum i'll keep the comments to myself.......

Ignorance is bliss, means, if you think its good, but havent compared to anything, good, if you havent compared it, that doesnt mean you have an ignorant persona, it means your lack of comaprison makes for your happiness with your set up.

Because if your not happy with what you have, then you simply change it, as information can make people think they are unhappy sometimes, especially now the information superhighwway comes to your home, but if we were all ignorant of what the world offered, and only knew what we did, and what was possible locally, then ignorance would be better for all of us sometimes ;)

Im sure your happy your the least insecure person I "may" meet, but that may mean your ignorant of the people I know, [not ignorant in general] or may meet, or people in general, or maybe your well informed, but me, i just call em as I see em. ;)

roedeo
LOL i would be the least insecure person you are likely to meet.... you stated "ignorance is bliss".... insinuating that waza is ignorant because he didn't compare his suspension to anything........ i have more to say.... but in the interest of this forum i'll keep the comments to myself.......

Ignorance is bliss, means, if you think its good, but havent compared to anything, good, if you havent compared it, that doesnt mean you have an ignorant persona, it means your lack of comaprison makes for you happiness with your set up.

Because if your not happy with what you have, then you simply change it, as information can make people think they are unhappy sometimes, especially now the information superhighwway comes to your home, but id we were all ignorant of what the world offered, and only knew what we id, and what was possible locally, then ignorance would be better for all of us sometimes ;)





LOL i can't argue with that!! makes perfect sense.... i think 8)

LOL i can't argue with that!! makes perfect sense.... i think 8)


Hard to explain, but sometimes knowledge is a powerful thing, be it good, or bad ;)

[Guts]

Hard to explain, but sometimes knowledge is a powerful thing, be it good, or bad ;)


How would you know?

Hard to explain, but sometimes knowledge is a powerful thing, be it good, or bad ;)


How would you know?



By watching people struggle with using it, like "i can drive there", next thing the car is upside down.....

Now we wait for croozerute and roedeo to pipe in too.....

Human nature, thats always interesting knowledge to procure...

[Link]

By watching people struggle with using it, like "i can drive there", next thing the car is upside down.....

Maybe if Yota's actually did some hard tracks from time to time we'd be able to compare between the two.. ;) ;D

By watching people struggle with using it, like "i can drive there", next thing the car is upside down.....

Maybe if Yota's actually did some hard tracks from time to time we'd be able to compare between the two.. ;) ;D


Yes, probably right there... ;)

[Guts]

By watching people struggle with using it, like "i can drive there", next thing the car is upside down.....



Yes and I remember one day watching you trying to drive a track in ya 454 shorty, was the funniest thing I have ever seen since I just did it in 1st low, no foot even on the go pedal and only 1 lock in.
Watching, thats what you are good at.

Oh and since you are sooooo good and hardcaore why aren`t you ob the outerlimits BB? Is it because over there you aren`t the big dog you think you are here?

lol.. no worries mate, i hope ya've got a note :P ;D

sounds to me like ya doin it ok guts :) ya havin a go which is the main thing. If you can get a little sponsorship, more power to ya mate :) let's hope ya do even better and get even more sponsorship ;) Some of us can just sit back and watch you guys with bigger balls have all the fun LOL

[Guts]

Mate the only reason I have big balls is because the wife gets turned off when I talk about 4x4 stuff and since that is most of the time I don`t get much play time in the sack if ya know what I mean. ::)

[Guts]

So I was wrong on the overheating thing, that weekend was over 4 years ago if I have selective memory of things 4 years ago then dam I`m a bad boy. Or was it 3 years ago? Shit I can`t remember, I`ll go for in the middle and say 3.5 years ago :P

Everyday I go out 4x4ing is a good day for me and I can remember most of what happens on every trip I have been on.

was a genernal statement my arse. Nice cover up but

So I was wrong on the overheating thing, that weekend was over 4 years ago if I have selective memory of things 4 years ago then dam I`m a bad boy. Or was it 3 years ago? Shit I can`t remember, I`ll go for in the middle and say 3.5 years ago :P

Everyday I go out 4x4ing is a good day for me and I can remember most of what happens on every trip I have been on.

was a genernal statement my arse. Nice cover up but



Nice cover up?...we try ;)

And I was wrong not running the fuel pump before we left ;) ;D
[my best learning has come from attempting something and making a mistake, something I have never been worried about is trying something, wether it works or not, what you learn from it can become invaluable, and sometimes not even where it starts but where it ends up ;) ]

It was the year the 80 got "wrecked" at the lookout, the 60 rolled on the friday, and the brown 55 had the extra long control arms on the rear I think. Your timing may be pretty good.

I also enjoy every trip I do, and the social side is nearly as important to me, I have no intention of running at the front of anywhere, [through luck and other factors it has happened occasionly though] and when the fun stops, I find something else to do, or place to go, a digital camera is helping the selective memory stay up to date with what happens and when too, these days. ;D