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06-09-2004, 08:49 AM
any one ever destroyed an cv joint ?? in an 80 series ??
snapped drivers side one on sunday after wheel became stuck in a hole gave it alittle curry and bang clunk clunk stop gott out of hole though in reverse and pulled the front hub to pieces to teveal a snapped joint \!!
not good~

06-09-2004, 09:12 AM
its fairly common for 80s to break cv joints, ive seen a few go on club trips and at comps, especially with bigger tyres fitted,

Snofox
06-09-2004, 10:28 AM
I don't own a 80 series,

But breaking a CV is something i don't want to exerience. :'(

I don't quite have some of the tools necessary to remove a CV while off-road. i actually borrow most of those tools from my mechanic. Best type of mechanic. ;D

06-09-2004, 11:59 AM
I don't own a 80 series,

But breaking a CV is something i don't want to exerience. :'(

I don't quite have some of the tools necessary to remove a CV while off-road. i actually borrow most of those tools from my mechanic. Best type of mechanic. ;D
you dont need any specialised tools to change a toyota cv joint, ive seen many done on the side of the track, all you need is a good socket set and either a large socket or a hammer and screwdriver to get the wheel bearing nuts off.

Reddo
06-09-2004, 12:18 PM
I don't own a 80 series,

But breaking a CV is something i don't want to exerience. :'(

I don't quite have some of the tools necessary to remove a CV while off-road. i actually borrow most of those tools from my mechanic. Best type of mechanic. ;D
you dont need any specialised tools to change a toyota cv joint, ive seen many done on the side of the track, all you need is a good socket set and either a large socket or a hammer and screwdriver to get the wheel bearing nuts off.


Same here, i just do it on the side of the track, takes about 20-30 minute to get it done.......

Snofox
06-09-2004, 12:50 PM
I don't own a 80 series,

But breaking a CV is something i don't want to exerience. :'(

I don't quite have some of the tools necessary to remove a CV while off-road. i actually borrow most of those tools from my mechanic. Best type of mechanic. ;D
you dont need any specialised tools to change a toyota cv joint, ive seen many done on the side of the track, all you need is a good socket set and either a large socket or a hammer and screwdriver to get the wheel bearing nuts off.


Same here, i just do it on the side of the track, takes about 20-30 minute to get it done.......


Cool, but what about tightening those bearings when done.
Don't wanna lose a wheel going home.
Hammer and screwdriver enough for that?

FJ60
06-09-2004, 01:42 PM
Can you only break Cv joints if you have lockers or are the breakable at any time?

06-09-2004, 02:45 PM
I don't own a 80 series,

But breaking a CV is something i don't want to exerience. :'(

I don't quite have some of the tools necessary to remove a CV while off-road. i actually borrow most of those tools from my mechanic. Best type of mechanic. ;D
you dont need any specialised tools to change a toyota cv joint, ive seen many done on the side of the track, all you need is a good socket set and either a large socket or a hammer and screwdriver to get the wheel bearing nuts off.


Same here, i just do it on the side of the track, takes about 20-30 minute to get it done.......


Cool, but what about tightening those bearings when done.
Don't wanna lose a wheel going home.
Hammer and screwdriver enough for that?
hammer and screwdriver will do, wheel bearings shouldnt be over tightened anyway, and as long as the lockingring between the nuts is put back on with the lug folded back over they shouldnt go anywhere

06-09-2004, 02:46 PM
Can you only break Cv joints if you have lockers or are the breakable at any time?
you dont need lockers to break them, if enough pressure is put on them they will break with or without lockers

crankycruiser
06-09-2004, 09:48 PM
I've broken a couple in my 80 but that was mainly due to crappy quality.. $80 repco...

When u buy new ones buy decent quality one's and u should be ok..

I bought Hardie Spicer CV's this time and havent had a problem since running 36's.

Reddo
06-09-2004, 10:55 PM
Cool, but what about tightening those bearings when done.
Don't wanna lose a wheel going home.
Hammer and screwdriver enough for that?


Just a hammer and a cole chisel, and i give them a bit of pre load, its pretty easy to set, once you know tight it should be......

06-09-2004, 11:14 PM
of .course you can always buy super strength cvs like those available from longfield, the disadvantage is though, you start breaking axles and diffs, me thinks its better to shatter cvs than diffs ;D

Snofox
07-09-2004, 12:56 PM
of .course you can always buy super strength cvs like those available from longfield, the disadvantage is though, you start breaking axles and diffs, me thinks its better to shatter cvs than diffs ;D


Very good point!

Hoonz
07-09-2004, 06:16 PM
I don't own a 80 series,

But breaking a CV is something i don't want to exerience. :'(

I don't quite have some of the tools necessary to remove a CV while off-road. i actually borrow most of those tools from my mechanic. Best type of mechanic. ;D




if u won't want to exprience it sell ur 4wd now!
any thing can let go at any time ... depends how u drive ... lockers or no lockers ...

lockers certainly u will break them alot easier

Snofox
07-09-2004, 06:39 PM
No chance of me selling my beast.
I had my fair share of minor breakages and component failures.
My point is that of all things to give way, gearbox, diffs and CV's wold have to be the biggest pain in the butt.
Still with a bit of thought you should always be able to limp home carefully if one of those does go 'bung'.

07-09-2004, 10:35 PM
No chance of me selling my beast.
I had my fair share of minor breakages and component failures.
My point is that of all things to give way, gearbox, diffs and CV's wold have to be the biggest pain in the butt.
Still with a bit of thought you should always be able to limp home carefully if one of those does go 'bung'.
cvs arent a big thing as far as breakages go they are fairly cheap and easy to change, even if you dont have a spare with you, you can simply remove the busted one, and still drive home

HnM
07-09-2004, 10:46 PM
Still with a bit of thought you should always be able to limp home carefully if one of those does go 'bung'.


I have attempted to drive with a broken CV and nearly learnt the hard/splat way with a semi when I couldn't return my steering to centre after rounding a right hand corner in a busy industrial estate. I replace it and my underwear that arvo.

When a cv has been broken be sure to atleast remove it ASAP if a replacement isn't immediately available.

Snofox
08-09-2004, 10:05 AM
Still with a bit of thought you should always be able to limp home carefully if one of those does go 'bung'.


I have attempted to drive with a broken CV and nearly learnt the hard/splat way with a semi when I couldn't return my steering to centre after rounding a right hand corner in a busy industrial estate. I replace it and my underwear that arvo.

When a cv has been broken be sure to atleast remove it ASAP if a replacement isn't immediately available.


Yeah, guess I'd better look into getting another tool or two for my kit.

08-09-2004, 10:15 AM
Still with a bit of thought you should always be able to limp home carefully if one of those does go 'bung'.


I have attempted to drive with a broken CV and nearly learnt the hard/splat way with a semi when I couldn't return my steering to centre after rounding a right hand corner in a busy industrial estate. I replace it and my underwear that arvo.

When a cv has been broken be sure to atleast remove it ASAP if a replacement isn't immediately available.


Yeah, guess I'd better look into getting another tool or two for my kit.
a good tool kit is handy to have, even if you dont know how to use it all, someone that does might be around

BLU-125
08-09-2004, 09:25 PM
You'll pay about $40 for hub socket, $20 for good quality Allen key for L/Hub bolts & you'll probably have circlip pliers....

It is not a BIG investment!

Snofox
10-09-2004, 10:42 AM
You'll pay about $40 for hub socket, $20 for good quality Allen key for L/Hub bolts & you'll probably have circlip pliers....

It is not a BIG investment!


Yep!
Although, when asking for a hub socket at the 3 local auto parts stores 12 months ago, they iether had no idea or said they could get them.
Even when i showed them a pic of one from the owners handbook they said I would have to go to a specialist tool shop. :o

Needless to say, I found better parts stores else-where.

Jys5428
11-09-2004, 07:59 PM
When a cv has been broken be sure to atleast remove it ASAP if a replacement isn't immediately available.
With the 80's fulltime front end and assuming you dont have a replacment CV, is removing the axel hub and disconnecting the driveshaft enough to get going again?

would you need an inner and CV for each side or are they the same, I cant remember if the housing is in the centre?

crankycruiser
19-09-2004, 10:37 PM
last time i bustedd a cv in my 80 i removed the end plate off the hub so that the cv couldnt drive the affected wheel, and used the locker till i got back to the road.

When i got to the road i removed the front tail shaft and drove home with the centre diff lock on..

BLU-125
19-09-2004, 10:53 PM
The risk of a damaged CV locking the steering is very real.

Never drive at road speeds without removing the offending POS.

ferremit
19-09-2004, 11:47 PM
After rebuilding the front axle of the lux (hub switch to hub switch- except diff) i do NOT want to have to replace a CV joint any time soon >:(


its a PRICK to get to with the lux, cos you wind up with bits of shit everywhere- your two halves of your free wheeling hub, the 8 cone washers, the retaining nuts, the brake caliper has to be removed, then teh rotor and hub, then the stub axle, THEN you can remove the bloody CV!!! >:( >:( >:(

Jys5428
21-09-2004, 11:44 AM
last time i bustedd a cv in my 80 i removed the end plate off the hub so that the cv couldnt drive the affected wheel, and used the locker till i got back to the road.

When i got to the road i removed the front tail shaft and drove home with the centre diff lock on..
Ah that's what I figured. Havent had to do one in the bush, I agree with Tirref, given the amount of hardware you go through to get to the thing, add rain, mud, dust, i'd be tempted to quickfix.

Having said that, who carries just a CV,
OR
a CV and inner axel, say the long side?
Is separating the Inner from the CV a big job inthe bush?

Snofox
21-09-2004, 05:16 PM
The risk of a damaged CV locking the steering is very real.

Never drive at road speeds without removing the offending POS.


Sounds like BLU125 is speaking from experience.

Snofox
21-09-2004, 05:21 PM
After rebuilding the front axle of the lux (hub switch to hub switch- except diff) i do NOT want to have to replace a CV joint any time soon >:(


its a PRICK to get to with the lux, cos you wind up with bits of shit everywhere- your two halves of your free wheeling hub, the 8 cone washers, the retaining nuts, the brake caliper has to be removed, then teh rotor and hub, then the stub axle, THEN you can remove the bloody CV!!! >:( >:( >:(


Come, come Terrif.., its not that bad.
The Hilux's aren't too bad to do.

Keep a cool head, plan your line of attack, don't lose any parts, remember what goes where, and know what your doing.

My problem is not carrying enough tools to do a job of that kind while in the bush, and carrying a bloody spare CV?!?

80Cruiser
27-09-2004, 12:31 AM
Hi All,,

I had to remove both cv,s and tail shaft on the weekend as diff centre totally colapsed, i reckon that if i had a new centre with me you could easly do the job in about 1.30 hrs with a can or 2...

I dont carry a great toolbow on trips , but carry full socket set , screwdriver set, ect , just the things ya might need..

And it was'nt as bad as i thought it would be doing it in the bush.....