View Full Version : landrovers are they two wheel or all wheel!!!!
discogirl
15-08-2007, 03:25 PM
hi all just want to know are landrovers all wheel drive(i already know the answer)and what percentage are the rear to front ie 60/40
have a friend who has been told and is convinced they are front wheel drive !!!!!i have rang four major landrover 4wd centres and they all stated they are all wheel drive but maybe if he see's a post on it from others he might change his mind
(thanks to all that post ):thumb:
maggot4x4
16-08-2007, 10:11 PM
They are front wheel drive, and rear wheel drive, all at the same time.
He has not got a clue what he is talking about. For real Landrovers, the torque is split 50:50, Freelanders I believe are different but cannot remember the figures.
CR-V's and the like are front wheel drive (torque on demand)
beforethevision
17-08-2007, 12:38 AM
They often come with a 'full time 4wd' sticker for a reason. Only the freelander is limited. and thats around 60/40 front heavy. All discos, defenders and rangies will have a centre diff, sometimes with a viscous coupling to reduce backlash.
BMKal
17-08-2007, 02:31 AM
I learnt to drive in a Front Wheel Drive series 1 Landrover in the late 60's.
But it was missing the rear tailshaft.
discogirl
17-08-2007, 10:40 AM
Thanks Guys
at least it may answer my mates WRONG point of view or maybe not his but whoever has told him this crap of Rangies are front wheel drive.
gibpeewee
17-08-2007, 01:07 PM
could be because he`s seen someone spining a front wheel on a rangie when cornering hard (used to do it alot in mine )
an open diff puts the drive to the wheel with least resistance so when accelerating the front axle has less weight on it, start cornering hard and the inside front wheel has even less weight on it and therefore less grip. the centre diff puts more drive to the front axle the front diff puts it to the inside wheel and wheel spins
this shouldn`t happen on a rangie with the borg warner transfer box as the viscous centre diff should lock up automatically
coops
18-08-2007, 10:39 PM
could be because he`s seen someone spining a front wheel on a rangie when cornering hard (used to do it alot in mine )
an open diff puts the drive to the wheel with least resistance so when accelerating the front axle has less weight on it, start cornering hard and the inside front wheel has even less weight on it and therefore less grip. the centre diff puts more drive to the front axle the front diff puts it to the inside wheel and wheel spins
this shouldn`t happen on a rangie with the borg warner transfer box as the viscous centre diff should lock up automatically
Gday. Im new to Land Rovers and have a Disco 1, but in normal 4H, it will spin both the (inside) back or front wheel/s, usually back. Does the centre diff lock split the torque 50:50, and without the diff locked, is it effectively a 1wd so to speak?
Cheers
Boringrudeprick
19-08-2007, 10:53 AM
Gday. Im new to Land Rovers and have a Disco 1, but in normal 4H, it will spin both the (inside) back or front wheel/s, usually back. Does the centre diff lock split the torque 50:50, and without the diff locked, is it effectively a 1wd so to speak?
Cheers
no, it's a constant 4wd
gibpeewee
19-08-2007, 01:56 PM
coops, does you`re transfer box lever move sidways for diff lock as well as forwards and back for hi and low ? do you now if you have the lt230 trasfer box or the borg warner?.
BigJon
24-08-2007, 09:28 AM
Does the centre diff lock split the torque 50:50, and without the diff locked, is it effectively a 1wd so to speak?
Cheers
Yes, 50/50 split front/rear. With the centre diff unlocked, all the available drive can potentially go to one wheel.
Disco98
05-09-2007, 08:55 PM
Gday. Im new to Land Rovers and have a Disco 1, but in normal 4H, it will spin both the (inside) back or front wheel/s, usually back. Does the centre diff lock split the torque 50:50, and without the diff locked, is it effectively a 1wd so to speak?
Cheers
Ok, picture this, the drive train is a set of water pipes, with the gearbox linking the diffs via the middle to form like a H at each wheel is a tap, when the centre diff lock is not locked there is drive to all 4 wheels, when one is lifted its like a tap opening and all the water (power) escapes. When you lock the centre diff lock its like the front and rear diffs are separated by a big valve in the middle to stop water flowing between the two, when the CDL is locked you need two wheels to loose traction before you stop, but there has to be one front and one rear of the ground etc.
This might be a bad analogy but seemed good at the time. In the range rover with a viscous coupling slip locks the centre diff lock and splits the torque between front and rear as in the manually locked discos and fenders. Matt
disco_nex
09-09-2007, 08:45 PM
Nice way at putting it Matt.
discogirl
11-09-2007, 07:04 PM
thanks all his decide to stick with his rangie now and knows they are all wheel drive after many phone calls to different 4wd shops "go figure"
hamish:thumb:
JEEPCHIK
12-09-2007, 08:02 AM
thanks all his decide to stick with his rangie now and knows they are all wheel drive after many phone calls to different 4wd shops "go figure"
hamish:thumb:
I'm bit worried that you are being told they are all wheel drive as they're not.They are actually constant fourwheel drive.And have been this way (well with rangies anyway) since 1970.Toyota caught up many years later but all wheel drives are mainly subies or many other soft roaders.
As you should know, landies and rangies are in a league of their own:thumb:
Marc 1
12-09-2007, 08:19 AM
They are actually constant fourwheel drive.And have been this way (well with rangies anyway) since 1970.Toyota caught up many years later but all wheel drives are mainly subies or many other soft roaders.
Garbage. Semantics. Tell me what the difference is in the power split between a Land Rover and any Subaru factory delivered to Australia in the last five years? Or for that matter any Audi with a quattro drivetrain (with the exception of the A3 Haldex clutch version).
discogirl
12-09-2007, 09:36 AM
Can you please tell me the difference between a constant 4wd and all wheel drive because as far as i'm concerned all 4 wheels drive at the same time .the whole point was that i said is they are NOT a FRONT wheel drive car which means that all the wheels whether constant 4wd or all wheel drive do the driving!!!
BigJon
12-09-2007, 11:09 AM
Can you please tell me the difference between a constant 4wd and all wheel drive because as far as i'm concerned all 4 wheels drive at the same time .
There is no difference. Different manufacturers use different terms to describe the same end result. There may be major or minor differences in how they get power to all four wheels, but constant 4WD and all wheel drive are essentially the same thing.
Generally speaking, with either one, you can provide drive to all four wheels on a hard road surface (bitumen, etc) without causing damage.
discogirl
12-09-2007, 12:07 PM
There is no difference. Different manufacturers use different terms to describe the same end result. There may be major or minor differences in how they get power to all four wheels, but constant 4WD and all wheel drive are essentially the same thing.
Generally speaking, with either one, you can provide drive to all four wheels on a hard road surface (bitumen, etc) without causing damage.
Thanks Bigjon that is what i was trying to get at!!
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